[Charts & Rankings] Official Oricon Thread ~Love songs~ II - Page 5

shizukanaotoko · #1 16th January 2011, 12:56 AM

Haha I do think k-pop has a more successful formula and appealing packaging to it than j-pop even if the substance is lacking. Their stuff is catchy whereas Japanese pop can often be too eclectic or different from what's mainstream in other countries yet mundane to Japanese listeners.

Ayu used to be THE mainstream without having common-sounding music which was an impressive feat not achieved by many. Now, she still deviates from most other artists but it's because her stuff isn't mainstream enough anymore that she can't sell like she used to along with the fact that she's been around for sooo long and released so much that people start to lose track of what she's doing.

Anyway, Love songs is an awesome album and will hopefully attract the attention it deserves!

**ayumisrael** · #2 16th January 2011, 10:33 AM

6th Day
Position: #5

Bad Wolf · #3 16th January 2011, 11:44 AM

^ Nice!

See, I wish more people would focus on this than on the overall sale figures. She's popular -- maybe not MASSIVELY like she used to be, but that's not a bad thing. There's still interest in her and her work, and as long as there's a demand (or a response to the things she does) she's going to do well.

njanjayrp · #4 16th January 2011, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by InoriNoUta

^ Nice!

See, I wish more people would focus on this than on the overall sale figures. She's popular -- maybe not MASSIVELY like she used to be, but that's not a bad thing. There's still interest in her and her work, and as long as there's a demand (or a response to the things she does) she's going to do well.

The position is the least important thing, there are albums that sell 20k and get #1

zeejia · #5 16th January 2011, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by njanjayrp

The position is the least important thing, there are albums that sell 20k and get #1

I mean u actually meant 2k++ and get no. 1, lol

njanjayrp · #6 16th January 2011, 11:58 AM

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I mean u actually meant 2k++ and get no. 1, lol

On dailies, yes

Bad Wolf · #7 16th January 2011, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by njanjayrp

The position is the least important thing, there are albums that sell 20k and get #1

You're such a little black raincloud, you know that? O_o Sale figures mean **** to me. Flat out, they mean absolute **** to me. The fact that something can reach and maintain a top ten position is THE most important thing to me. Dir en grey, another band I love, never really has high sales at all, but they've maintained top ten positions for a few of their recent releases, and that makes me proud of them. I couldn't give a crap less how much they sell.

Nackar_91 · #8 17th January 2011, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by InoriNoUta

You're such a little black raincloud, you know that? O_o Sale figures mean **** to me. Flat out, they mean absolute **** to me. The fact that something can reach and maintain a top ten position is THE most important thing to me. Dir en grey, another band I love, never really has high sales at all, but they've maintained top ten positions for a few of their recent releases, and that makes me proud of them. I couldn't give a crap less how much they sell.

Wow, maybe calm a little bit down?

Besides, we can all like what we want, but how is prefering sales over positions being negative? I'd rather have an artist I support be no. 7 with 23k sales in a strong week than no. 1 with 20k sales. O.o

How high something charts really only tells you how lucky/carefully planned a certain release is. Except when talking about certain groups like Mr. Children
and Arashi.

Bad Wolf · #9 17th January 2011, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Nackar_91

Wow, maybe calm a little bit down?

Besides, we can all like what we want, but how is prefering sales over positions being negative? I'd rather have an artist I support be no. 7 with 23k sales in a strong week than no. 1 with 20k sales. O.o

How high something charts really only tells you how lucky/carefully planned a certain release is. Except when talking about certain groups like Mr. Children
and Arashi.

I don't need to calm down, because I'm not upset O_o Cursing =/= bad temper, you know.

I said what I said because there are some people who get all in a tizzy about sales figures, and I think that's a bit silly. I don't know why it's being blown out of proportion, but I guess I should have expressed more "lulz" and less "lol get over it" in my initial post. Oops. Oh well.

Yay #5 again \o/

njanjayrp · #10 17th January 2011, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by InoriNoUta

You're such a little black raincloud, you know that? O_o Sale figures mean **** to me. Flat out, they mean absolute **** to me. The fact that something can reach and maintain a top ten position is THE most important thing to me. Dir en grey, another band I love, never really has high sales at all, but they've maintained top ten positions for a few of their recent releases, and that makes me proud of them. I couldn't give a crap less how much they sell.

Chill. No need to get upset. What means little to you means a lot to avex and Ayu

Dir en grey is an amazing example of how little the position actually means. The position is really a very relative thing that ultimately means nothing.

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Originally Posted by Nackar_91

Wow, maybe calm a little bit down?

Besides, we can all like what we want, but how is prefering sales over positions being negative? I'd rather have an artist I support be no. 7 with 23k sales in a strong week than no. 1 with 20k sales. O.o

How high something charts really only tells you how lucky/carefully planned a certain release is. Except when talking about certain groups like Mr. Children
and Arashi.

Exactly. The high position can be achieved thru careful planning more than anything else now days and Ayu's singles have pretty much proven that during the last few years (and not only hers ofc).

jbrat2219 · #11 16th January 2011, 07:34 PM

It IS impressive that she's in the top 10 still regardless of what she sells. If she sold 10 copies and is still in the top 10, it's impressive LOL.

Pieces_of_SEVEN · #12 16th January 2011, 07:47 PM

I wish the actual sales numbers would be put up.

**ayumisrael** · #13 17th January 2011, 12:16 PM

7th Day
Position: #5

freedreamer · #14 17th January 2011, 03:28 PM

Nice to see it maintaining
and HAHA second best selling album in Jan perhaps

Pieces_of_SEVEN · #15 17th January 2011, 04:54 PM

The chart positions for this album are really surprising me. lol

AyumiAi · #16 17th January 2011, 07:24 PM

Good job ayu

jbrat2219 · #17 17th January 2011, 11:21 PM

It's very obvious Ayu isn't too concerned with sales, there's a lot of freedom when you're not expected to sell above and beyond anymore. Imagine the day Arashi sells the amount Ayu does.

njanjayrp · #18 18th January 2011, 07:31 AM

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It's very obvious Ayu isn't too concerned with sales, there's a lot of freedom when you're not expected to sell above and beyond anymore. Imagine the day Arashi sells the amount Ayu does.

They've already been there

jbrat2219 · #19 18th January 2011, 10:16 AM

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They've already been there

I mean after the expectation of selling millions. I would imagine it would be a little weird at first.

njanjayrp · #20 18th January 2011, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219

I mean after the expectation of selling millions. I would imagine it would be a little weird at first.

Of course, but that time will come, sooner or later.