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freedreamer 21st March 2012 12:55 PM

well...it cant be EVERY site reporting the same thing about the change up im sure? There had to be a source hinting that somewhere.

and yea, im a bit peeved that they are having a new girlgrp and dissing T-ara..whut?!
I know Hyomin is gonna be with the new girlgrp in a photoshoot or something but..it better just stop there

AyusakiFan 21st March 2012 10:08 PM

T-ARA Cry Cry & Lovey-Dovey Music Video Collection [Limited Release] DVD & Blu-ray

Release Date: 4/25/12

DVD Cover
http://www.generasia.com/w/images/8/...lectionDVD.jpg

Blu-ray Cover
http://www.generasia.com/w/images/9/...llectionBD.jpg

1. Cry Cry & Lovey-Dovey Drama ver. *Director's Cut
2. Cry Cry Dance Ver.
3. Cry Cry Ballad Ver.
4. Lovey-Dovey Zombie Ver.
5. Lovey-Dovey in Tokyo Ver.
6. 私たち愛し合ったじゃない with Davichi
7. Cry Cry & Lovey-Dovey Making


Special Packaging with B5 72-page Photobook of Unpublished Photos
Comes with English, Japanese, Korean, and Chinese Subtitles
Limited to 20,000 copies

CDJapan: DVD Blu-ray

YesAsia: DVD Blu-ray

HMV: DVD Blu-ray

Amazon JP: DVD Blu-ray

Tom Punks 21st March 2012 10:10 PM

lol If they wanted me to buy that, they would have put their other MVs on it. :innocent

AyumiAi 22nd March 2012 12:30 AM

T-ara sales for 3rd week :)

3,447

Total so far! :D 52,091
woot!

AyusakiFan 22nd March 2012 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Punks (Post 2839104)
lol If they wanted me to buy that, they would have put their other MVs on it. :innocent

I preordered it as soon as I got home from school, lol. Although I'm excited about the photobook and DVD, I'm anxiously awaiting the day preorder links are posted for the album.

mobius 25th March 2012 12:47 AM

Some news,

Soyeon got injured while on vacation. She still a trooper though, performing with a crutch



http://www.t-araworld.net/2012/03/ta...-pictures.html

Seems like these girls can't avoid an injury lately. Still, I applaud them every time one of them perform while they're injured.

Also, they're documenting and broadcasting their upcoming trip to Europe through Youtube called "FREEDOM"

http://www.t-araworld.net/2012/03/ta...pean-trip.html

AyumiAi 25th March 2012 06:18 AM

^ go Soyeon she's such a trooper and still their CEO spazzes at them for being" lazy"

x-megumi-x 3rd April 2012 09:06 PM

Don't think it was posted. They will release the Japanese version of Lovey-Dovey on May 23rd.

LE
http://i42.tinypic.com/wbyjw2.jpg

RE
http://i43.tinypic.com/160bed4.jpg

Promo pic


And their Japanese album is titled "Jewelry box". It will be released on June 6th.
http://www.t-ara-official.com/topic.html

adantatu2 4th April 2012 05:33 AM

^ thanks for the info
I was expecting Lovey Dovey after the album tbh.
Anyway the covers are really good, the best in Japan

bondingo 4th April 2012 08:27 AM

Awww, well that's not incredibely exciting. I would've much preferred Wae Ireoni to Lovey Dovey, but oh well. I'm most excite about the album. I wonder what the DVD will have on it and what songs are gonna be on the album.

I preordered the Blu-Ray set too. That I'm really excited about. Sucks it doesn't include their earlier videos, but it has so much content I'm still really excited for it...and English subtitles? Sold.

AyusakiFan 4th April 2012 02:38 PM

In my opinion, I find this single release to be useless. There are no other songs or instrumentals included. Plus, the album comes out 15 days after the single so what's the use in buying it unless you collect their singles? The most exciting thing about it is the poster. I understand that they are probably releasing it to keep their momentum going until the album comes out but it would probably be better off released as a digital single instead as I'm sure the song is going to be on the album.

I'm soooo excited that they have finally announced their album! I hope that there will be no more remakes and the album will have only new songs in addition to the songs they've already released! "Jewelry Box" is such a cute title! I can't wait until June 6th!

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Originally Posted by x-megumi-x (Post 2846832)
Don't think it was posted. They will release the Japanese version of Lovey-Dovey on May 23rd.

LE
http://i42.tinypic.com/wbyjw2.jpg

RE
http://i43.tinypic.com/160bed4.jpg

Promo pic


And their Japanese album is titled "Jewelry box". It will be released on June 6th.
http://www.t-ara-official.com/topic.html

Preorder links are now available for the "Lovey Dovey" single:

CDJapan:
Limited Edition
Regular Edition

YesAsia:
Limited Edition
Regular Edition

HMV:
Limited Edition
Regular Edition

The first press bonus for both editions of this single is a B2-sized poster. The tracklisting only includes the Japanese version of "Lovey Dovey" and the version with the DVD will have a music video for the song. Looking at the price of both editions of this single, I think that is the final tracklist but I'm not 100% sure.

y_nathz 4th April 2012 03:21 PM

oh what marketing strategy is this, most people would just get the japanese album anyway x_x
and I wasn't even excited for another remake, oh well. I just hope the album will be great

freedreamer 5th April 2012 03:55 AM

Could we use this as confirmation that T-ara might not go thru drastic member changes afterall??? >.<

freedreamer 5th April 2012 09:48 AM

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New details surface regarding T-ara’s member changes

Following the news that Core Contents Media would be announcing T-ara‘s new changes on April 6th, more details have surfaced from sources within the agency.

According to Review Star, a representative of Core Contents Media told them over the phone, “It’s true that T-ara will become a nine member group. Two members will be added, and we will reveal the details on April 6th.”

With the addition of two members, the current seven member group will become a nine member group. The only other nine member group at the moment is Girls’ Generation, and has thus, caused many questions to surface about whether this change is to further compete against Girls’ Generation.

There is also speculation that the two member addition was decided on after seeing the group’s potential in the Japanese market, and in hopes to further increase their reputation.

Earlier on March 14th, CEO Kim Kwang Soo had stated, “In April, there are big potential member changes for T-ara.” Having talked about taking out members within the group, many had wondered just what kind of change would be taking place. With his elaboration on the issue of removing members, fans and industry officials were surprised to hear that the member changes would not consist of swapping out original members, but instead adding new members.

The source within the agency also revealed, “The new member(s) that will be added are trainees within the agency. There was a previous speculation that they would join Co-Ed, but that’s not true.”

Stay tuned for the official announcement on April 6th!

Source + Photo: Review Star Hankooki via Nate
from allkpop

9TH MEMBER T-ARA >.<
I dunno what to think right now. hope they dun get anti-fans.
this is obviously better than removing anyone but still...

milky_way 5th April 2012 10:04 AM

Why can't they let T-ara be great?

AyusakiFan 5th April 2012 03:01 PM

Thanks for posting the update freedreamer. While I'm happy that the original members of T-ara will remain in the group, I am concerned about the addition of two members. Some of the girls already get little to no lines so I'm unsure of how they are going to divide up lines with more members in the group. I guess we'll have to wait until the 6th for more information.

bondingo 5th April 2012 04:18 PM

Are you ****ing kidding me?! I am SO sick of groups adding unneessary members. After School didn't need it, T-ARA didn't need Hwayoung, and they CERTAINLY don't need two more useless girls. I don't understand how having more necessarily means better. Do they think that's the reason SNSD is the most popular group in Korea and AKB's the most popular in Japan? Seriously, they're retarded.

I know it isn't any of the girls' faults, but I simply can't support them anymore if this ******** goes on. It goes without saying I'll be cancelling my preorder of the Blu-Ray PV collection too.

freedreamer 6th April 2012 05:06 AM

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CCM’s Kim Kwang Soo releases official statement regarding T-ara’s member additions

As reported yesterday, T-ara will be indeed adding two new members to become a nine member group, and Core Contents Media’s CEO, Kim Kwang Soo, has released an official statement confirming the changes.

On April 6th, Kim Kwang Soo stated, “T-ara will be changed from the current 7 members to a nine member centered system, and if needed, member changes as well as member additions will be decisively executed.”

The two new members will start promoting with T-ara starting in July of this year with the release of a new album.

Kim Kwang Soo explained that the reason for the addition of members is for the expansion and development of the group. “I’ve seen a portion of the celebrities I’ve created become conceited and idle about three years after they’ve risen to popularity. Although T-ara is working hard, to show them that they must continue to try and work even harder on stage as well as off stage, I have decided to implement changes,” he stated.

After the news of the addition of new members, many had expressed their concerns and anxieties, however Kim Kwang Soo thought differently.

He commented, “Even now with new girl and boy groups debut left and right every month, they are working hard for more than ten hours a day… In situations like this, if they find safety in thinking ‘We are one of the top groups in Korea’, they can never progress. T-ara has worked tirelessly to challenge themselves in new ways, and they’re still doing so now.”

He continued, “We will try even harder to make sure that no controversy arises from their greetings or attitude. If there is a member within T-ara who does not work hard and become full of herself, and as a result cause harm to other members, I will decisively exchange that member in question with a new member. That is the way that T-ara can go from being just Korea’s T-ara to a group that goes beyond Asia to stand at the center of K-Pop.”

Kim Kwang Soo added, “We hope for your understanding and interest in T-ara’s next move.”

T-ara’s new members will be revealed in July.

Source + Photo: TVreport via Nate, No Cut News via Naver
This is so bull...he treats them as though they are so easily replaced. LIKE HELLO, IT'S T-ARA!!! UR MOST SUCCESSFUL GRP THUS FAR!!!

AyusakiFan 6th April 2012 05:40 AM

Kim Kwang Soo's statements clearly indicate that he is trying to make T-ara the next SNSD as far as size and popularity. By saying that he will change out members whenever he sees fit shows a lack of care for the fans and their attachment to the members of the group. From the looks of it, it seems like he may try to have a system like AKB48 and After School who constantly change members. He's aiming for world domination and will do whatever it takes for T-ara to get there. Even his tone in this article sounds like he's treating them like puppets. I'm so disgusted about this but not surprised. I also read elsewhere that he is planning to change the group's image and music so if he really plans to implement all these changes, T-ara's going to be like a completely different group in all aspects. If this is the case, I might not be a fan anymore. I'll always love the T-ara that I became a fan of but with the new T-ara, I'm not so sure. I'll see how it goes before jumping ship but I'm already on the plank at this point.

adantatu2 6th April 2012 06:19 AM

That's my reason in the past to avoid groups, you love them, but there are always changes with members and style.
AFTERSCHOOL and AKB48 got a graduation and admission system since their beginning, but now this guy is just doing what he wants, no what fans want.

freedreamer 6th April 2012 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by adantatu2 (Post 2847780)
That's my reason in the past to avoid groups, you love them, but there are always changes with members and style.
AFTERSCHOOL and AKB48 got a graduation and admission system since their beginning, but now this guy is just doing what he wants, no what fans want.

YES THIS! it wasnt even established and he is just adding when he feels like it. totally uncalled for.

ayurocks20 6th April 2012 03:41 PM

BEST IDEA EVER at the end of my rant:

Sorry everyone but their CEO is a C.U.N.T.

I know that I'll get in trouble for the language but... there's no other way of putting it. He's a disgusting, cruel and selfish human being. None of the fans want new members. None of the fans are going to love T-ARA with new members as much. I'm certain he's about to ruin T-ARA for good.

They train so hard and work so hard and for what? For him to say disgusting things like that? I honestly think he should be arrested and sued for his behaviour. He treats them in a way that is the very opposite of humane. He's a greedy and disgusting human being. He keeps referring to himself as a man who's created many famous groups. I'm sorry, but besides T-ARA, how many of his groups have made it? Co-Ed stank the floor. 5Dolls went nowhere.

Idea:Why doesn't he use his pathetic little brain and listen to the fans. I'm officially setting up a youtube video strike against this called "Save T-ARA". I'm going to get in touch with as many fans as possible holding up signs saying "LEAVE T-ARA ALONE!". If you're a fan of T-ARA, please join in the video. Details about it will be posted soon. I seriously think this manager needs to be shown just how much he's p.i.s.s.ing everyone off.

Tom Punks 6th April 2012 04:02 PM

lmao... Their company is rapidly becoming the laughingstock of k-pop. They look like such idiots.

I'm pissed AGAIN, but like, this is the 20,000th time I've been pissed at them, so it's like, why do I even bother with this group anymore? I love T-ara, but their management is absolute crap, and it makes me not want to support the girls because I don't want to support their ****** company. True story.

AyusakiFan 6th April 2012 04:32 PM

I honestly wish that T-ara would just leave CCM and go to another record label. Their CEO clearly doesn't know what he's doing based on his track record concerning other groups that have gotten no where. The only group that is relevant under that label is T-ara and he's about to screw up the one good thing he has going. As much as I love T-ara, it's going to be hard to support a group that can't remain stable because of a CEO on a power trip. Who in the world changes a groups dynamics after they have already gained success? How does that make any sense?

ayurocks20 7th April 2012 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by AyusakiFan (Post 2847929)
I honestly wish that T-ara would just leave CCM and go to another record label. Their CEO clearly doesn't know what he's doing based on his track record concerning other groups that have gotten no where. The only group that is relevant under that label is T-ara and he's about to screw up the one good thing he has going. As much as I love T-ara, it's going to be hard to support a group that can't remain stable because of a CEO on a power trip. Who in the world changes a groups dynamics after they have already gained success? How does that make any sense?


Unfortunately, changing labels isn't as simple in Korea as it is in Japan. This is because all the labels in Korea are actually more like talent agency. Each Label(Talent Agency) owns the rights to the name of the group, the songs they produce, the members stage names and etc. In other words, if all the members of T-ARA decided to go to YG, they'd probably get sued for copyright infringement by their previous CEO. The members of T-ARA don't make T-ARA, the company does. He could remove everyone from the group and replace them and he could still call them T-ARA. Luckily, the group is signed record labels in Japan which means they could call the quits in Korea and work as a group in Japan, but that would mean they would never be allowed to release anything in Korea ever again.

However, some groups like BIGBANG or Brown Eyed Girls, who are responsible for some of the song compositions and group forming, have a better chance of being able to swap agencies.

AyusakiFan 7th April 2012 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ayurocks20 (Post 2848091)
Unfortunately, changing labels isn't as simple in Korea as it is in Japan. This is because all the labels in Korea are actually more like talent agency. Each Label(Talent Agency) owns the rights to the name of the group, the songs they produce, the members stage names and etc. In other words, if all the members of T-ARA decided to go to YG, they'd probably get sued for copyright infringement by their previous CEO. The members of T-ARA don't make T-ARA, the company does. He could remove everyone from the group and replace them and he could still call them T-ARA. Luckily, the group is signed record labels in Japan which means they could call the quits in Korea and work as a group in Japan, but that would mean they would never be allowed to release anything in Korea ever again.

However, some groups like BIGBANG or Brown Eyed Girls, who are responsible for some of the song compositions and group forming, have a better chance of being able to swap agencies.

Thank you so much for the information.This whole situation is just a mess. The only thing that would make me happy regarding the addition of the two new members would be if they were Davichi and they didn't implement a admission and graduation situation. But anyways, here's another article regarding the addition of the 2 new members:

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[12.04.06] What's the role of the 2 new members of T-ara?

Changes that will be made to girl group T-ara have been revealed. The current 7 members will be strengthen by the addition of 2 more members, forming a 9 member girl group.

Kim Kwangsoo, T-ara and Core Contents Media's CEO revealed to "DISPATCH' on the 5th that T-ara will have 2 new members and will operate as a 9 member girl group.

What's the rationale behind the 9 member T-ara? Kim Kwang Soo revealed that this was a decision so as to help T-ara solidify its position in the music industry. Adding in 2 members who are outstanding in their singing abilities is to help them fulfill their role as singers even better in the future.

This is also to bring about a breathe of fresh air into the group, as Lead Vocalist Soyeon usually carries most of the responsibilities in singing when the group is promoting. The 2 new member will help to reduce the burden on Soyeon. Furthermore, with an even stronger vocal line, T-ara will have more choices when it comes to songs in the future.

Kim KwangSoo added that "The 2 new members are around the same age as the current members and brought about even more harmony to the current team." and "The new members are good in singing, that's why there are invited to join and help T-ara grow and develop as singers".

T-ara also added their 7th member Hwayoung in July 2010 on their initial 6 member foundation.

Source: http://dispatch.co.k...page=1&idx=9869
Translated by: xxxiang@Diadem

AyumiAi 7th April 2012 06:08 AM

^lol so he's basically saying that no one on T-ara is worthy of having lines apart form Soyeon and is having to bring in two other girls to sing and now putting the rest of the girls as back up... gah! FACKER!!! I mean I guess I'm interested in seeing how this will give them more "variety" in their song choices but im still mad... this means even less time for Boram :(

AyusakiFan 7th April 2012 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AyumiAi (Post 2848141)
^lol so he's basically saying that no one on T-ara is worthy of having lines apart form Soyeon and is having to bring in two other girls to sing and now putting the rest of the girls as back up... gah! FACKER!!! I mean I guess I'm interested in seeing how this will give them more "variety" in their song choices but im still mad... this means even less time for Boram :(

In my opinion, he could have just distributed more lines amongst the other girls if he didn't want Soyeon to carry most of the songs. He didn't need to add to newbies to fix that issue. I interested in seeing how this will turn out as well but I certainly don't feel like the CEO knows what he's doing as usual.

Tom Punks 7th April 2012 02:50 PM

^ Right? It's not like no one else in the group can sing at all, like Eunjung or something.

freedreamer 7th April 2012 04:47 PM

Eunjung has ONE HELLA OF A VOICE! I dunno why she cant exploit it.
and anyway at the style of their songs, they honestly cant showcase their vocals at all...

im still hoping for a ballad like Good Person to be sung by T-ara agian (ok..maybe Cry Cry Ballad...but)

Tom Punks 8th April 2012 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by freedreamer (Post 2848445)
and anyway at the style of their songs, they honestly cant showcase their vocals at all...

Right? It was all good at first, but over time, they've given them more and more songs that don't suit their voices at all. :grumpy

AyumiAi 8th April 2012 06:45 AM

http://www.allkpop.com/2012/04/op-ed...o-punish-t-ara

this article makes me so MAD at KKS

4minute Girl 8th April 2012 07:17 AM

I like all of the girls voices, but it's true that they don't have much power. Soyeon's range is very limited (she struggles to hit high notes all the time, she usually resorts to lipsyncing anything outside of a small range), and Eunjung doesn't have much control. Jiyeon's is nice too, but not very memorable. Same for Boram. I really love all of their voices as a fan, but from a technical point of view, they could use much better vocalists in the group. I'm welcome to new members, as long as they deliver what KKS has promised!

Personally, I don't think it'll have much of an effect on their success. They've never relied much on a steady fanbase, their lack of an official fanclub is proof of that, but rather on the support of the general public. For a group as famous as they are, the size of their fanbase has always been a bit disproportionately small. Aside from Eunjung and Jiyeon (and Hyomin and Soyeon, to an extent) the other members aren't really known outside of the T-ara/idol fandom. Whatever issues they have internally have never really affected their success because people who aren't that into idols frankly just don't care. They've been through a lot of things that have put dents in their fanbase, but strangely enough not even a child porn scandal was enough to be detrimental to their mainstream success. Just for comparison's sake, a group like SHINee would be on the opposite end of the spectrum. They have quite a large fanbase but they've yet to achieve any type of mainstream success like T-ara has.

I believe what KKS is aiming to do is trying to maintain their success with the general population by keeping things from getting old, maybe at the expense of their core fanbase. Honestly, they've switched concepts so much that they've done everything they can, with the way they are now. They could easily continue with the Roly Poly/Lovey Dovey/etc. type songs, or whatever else they've tried in the past and those songs would continue to be hits, because the existing fans will obviously eat everything up. A good example of this would be Super Junior. They're a hugely popular group, but quite boring and stagnant in my opinion. That's what they're trying to prevent, I think. By adding 2 members with stronger vocals, they'll be able to try out new types of songs and avoid getting comfortable and putting themselves in a rut by deciding it's good enough to stay as they are now.

AyumiAi 8th April 2012 07:33 PM

^
i don't mind them adding 2 members if it's just WERE ADDING TWO NEW MEMBERS

But it's were adding two new members for the purpose of creating competition amongst the group and the moment someone doesnt comply with everying KKS says they will be kicked out.

Tom Punks 8th April 2012 08:23 PM

^ Yeah... :l Though tbh I'm against them adding new members, period. They already know that the fans are absolutely against the idea. To this day, there's almost NO ONE who likes Hwayoung or wants her in the group. And no one had anything positive to say as soon as we heard their were plans to change the group lineup.

It sucks for the current members AND the new girls who are going to be hated by all fans forevermore.

Their CEO is a total idiot and he's making a huge fool of himself. He doesn't care about T-ara, he doesn't care about the fans, all he cares about is power and money. Too bad he's too stupid to realize that there is absolutely NO LOGIC in changing a group right when they're starting to get popular.

I sincerely hope Korean fans will be smart enough to boycott their next release, or any future releases until the CEO gets an ounce of sense in him. :irked

ETA: Saying they've done all they can do with their current lineup is kind of silly, no offense. They've had like, what, 7 title tracks? lol There's still PLENTY of concepts and sounds to explore, or else I don't know how people like Kuu or Ayu could make it through 50+ singles. The problem with Super Junior isn't that they have nothing left they can do, it's that SME found a sound that fans will eat up so they keep recycling it. Why risk going for a new sound when Sorry Sorry part 5000 will do just as well? Adding two new members to T-ara won't suddenly open up a world of possibilities for new musical experiences.

4minute Girl 8th April 2012 09:41 PM

Of course there are, but there's not much more they can do with their current vocal capabilities (and actually pull it off), which to put it bluntly, are pretty weak. Heck, they even struggled through those performances of Cry Cry (Ballad Version) which isn't even a vocally demanding song to begin with. Ayu and Koda have honestly been doing the same thing for a long time, which is why most of the general public has written them off and they're living off of the support of hardcore fans now. To tell you the truth, they're both pretty much irrelevant to people outside of that group. I realize they've been trying to explore their musical styles now but it's too late. They set themselves up to be stuck in the same box for so long that they're trapped. Weird comparison aside, T-ara's career so far has been based more on good production and good marketing more than anything. They can't keep up the charade for much longer. They need to add more substance and change things up before their man source of support loses interest. >_> People have been complaining for so long that T-ara "can't sing", and now that they say they're adding members who can sing they get mad?

Of course the CEO cares about money and power. This is a business. It's the same for every company. The only difference is that KKS isn't feeding into the fans deluded reality that it's one big happy family relationship. Every idol is expendable, and you can bet your arse that in any other company if one member suddenly starts skipping out on recordings, rehearsals, etc. and interfering with the group's activities that they will be dropped and replaced! Seeya's Nam Gyuri has done so in the past, and he's probably trying to prevent such things from happening in the future by letting them know that it won't be tolerated. Almost every idol knows better than to do that of course, so he probably just said it to garner publicity.

And for the record, most everyone has gotten over Hwayoung and even grown to like her. :)

I won't even get into their "no vacations" since debut and not seeing their families, because those are all blatant lies just said on variety shows and such for dramatic effect. Everyone makes things up on those. It only takes a few minutes of searching to find that they go on several vacations a year, and somehow they all manage to be their "first vacations since debut" lol. In February, Jiyeon claimed she hadn't seen her family in months, yet you can see her entire family with her in the Lovey Dovey in Tokyo MV (actually, the families of all the girls came to Japan to spend time off with them), which was filmed just a few weeks earlier. CCM/T-ara are known for their noise marketing and their belief that all publicity is good publicity, negative or not. In fact, their entire career was kicked off by a publicity stunt. When they sent Taeyeon's radio show on MBC "Wanna Play" and then went to all the newspapers claiming it was leaked and they were threatening legal action. Turned out a few days later that they sent it to MBC and reviewed it and gave them permission to air it. They had to make a public apology to MBC after that. No doubt the girls are incredibly over worked, but it's also exaggerated and enhanced to get press. That's why that type of stuff doesn't cause as much of a stir in Korea, because most people know the truth. KKS is incredibly notorious for his media play in Korea. No matter if it's good or bad. It's really not hard to disprove their claims using claims they've already made time and time again, but I guess people don't because it wouldn't be as "fun" to gossip about, and everyone loves a conspiracy theory.

Tom Punks 8th April 2012 10:55 PM

^ Meh, I forgot for a second that you're a troll.

4minute Girl 8th April 2012 11:20 PM

What exactly makes me a troll? Are you making this accusation simply because you don't know how else to respond? Everything I said is legitimate and factual. Even if I were a "troll", which I'm not, what was said in my posts is still true. I've been following T-ara since the very beginning, and I don't hold any delusions regarding their situation. I'd be more than happy to compile sources to back up any information you desire.


In other news, the girls are finally going to Europe tomorrow! I can't wait for the videos they upload on YouTube during their trip.

Soyeon will also be featuring in Yangpa's new song on the 24th, and she'll start promoting with her (along with SPEED's Jongkook) in three weeks. And if you weren't already aware, Hwayoung wrote the rap for Yangpa's other song that came out a few days ago. :)



I'm glad they're getting more experience in the production side of things. Hopefully they can put their skills to use for T-ara in the future!

Tom Punks 9th April 2012 12:57 AM

^ lol, No, I typed up a really long response to your "factual" post but then I looked at your name and realized who I was talking to.

You are obviously a troll. And here are some more:

Though, tbh, the fact that you imply adding two more members to the group will suddenly give them a variety of new genres, concepts, and styles to explore is proof enough for me. :yawn

4minute Girl 9th April 2012 01:12 AM

I've never denied my past. What do those posts from years ago have to do with what I'm saying now? You're grabbing at straws. Regardless of what I've posted in 2010, however trollish they may be, it doesn't change the validity of my posts in 2012. I am not trolling and what's going is completely unrelated to that. Try to derail the conversation all you want, it's not going to change the facts. It's sad that what could have been a civil discussion has turned into you resorting to name calling and dredging up completely irrelevant years old nonsense.

I don't see what's so strange about that. Let's say, hypothetically, that they wanted to try out the type of music Spica is currently doing. How on earth do you think they'd pull that off with the current members? By giving Qri and Boram more lines? The fact is that having a stronger vocal line will give them more opportunities to try out new styles that they're simply not capable of doing now. It's not something I'm implying. It's something that they explicitly stated just a few days ago.

AyusakiFan 9th April 2012 01:29 AM

The CEO's current track record regarding artists under his label shows that he doesn't make the best decisions on how to move forward with his groups. T-ara is the only revelant group on his record label. He likes to run his mouth about his experience and how the decisions that he makes are supposed to be improvements but we can clearly see that for the majority of his current artists or lack there of is contradictory of what he says. If he feels the need to have to resort to publicity stunts as the sole way to attract attention to his artists than that shows that his 30 years of experience is certainly lacking something because by this time, he should definetely have it together on how to efficiently run a company without resorting to newbie tactics. This is why we are concerned about him making such a drastic decision to a group that has already started to gain success. He has a history of being more damaging to a group than improving it. As the saying goes, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".

ayurocks20 9th April 2012 01:41 AM

He's just herpin the derp.

4minute Girl 9th April 2012 01:46 AM

I can agree with you on some points. :) He has a good eye for scouting talents and producing groups, films, dramas, musicals, etc. but not so much with managing them as idols. I understand what he's trying to do in managing them but I don't always agree with it. I think the best thing to do is to try to get a grasp on his way of thinking, acknowledge the group's faults and flaws (and those of KKS), etc. Even though he's had a lot of success in his 30 years, T-ara is the first idol group he created. In some ways I can appreciate the fact that he's not sticking to the formula and trying out different things. Sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't. It does get tiring though, especially as a hardcore fan. But it is what it is. After about three years I've learned to deal with it and always try to see things relating to T-ara from all perspectives, it's easier that way. I do hope that he'll begin to think more about their fanbase in the future!

AyusakiFan 9th April 2012 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 4minute Girl (Post 2849334)
I can agree with you on some points. :) He has a good eye for scouting talents and producing groups, films, dramas, musicals, etc. but not so much with managing them as idols. I understand what he's trying to do in managing them but I don't always agree with it. I think the best thing to do is to try to get a grasp on his way of thinking, acknowledge the group's faults and flaws (and those of KKS), etc. Even though he's had a lot of success in his 30 years, T-ara is the first idol group he created. In some ways I can appreciate the fact that he's not sticking to the formula and trying out different things. Sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't. It does get tiring though, especially as a hardcore fan. But it is what it is. After about three years I've learned to deal with it and always try to see things relating to T-ara from all perspectives, it's easier that way. I do hope that he'll begin to think more about their fanbase in the future!

I think his delivery and how he presents hisself also heightens the concern of T-ara fans. The changes that he's implenting are not unusual because other groups have added members or even adopted the admission and graduation system but the way he speaks of them is very insensitive to the group and the fans. Some of his statements sound downright threatening and in my opinion, there is a more professional way to address a situation. Sometimes it's not what you do but how you do it. It's common knowledge that Korean record labels tend to treat some of their artists like slaves but to come out and be so blatant and disrespectful about it to the public can be detrimental to him and his artists. It may make some people resent T-ara just because they ultimately don't want to put more money in the pockets of a CEO who shows a lack of care for how the fans feel. As a whole, a company should try to respresent themselves in the most positive way possible even if things behind closed doors aren't as good as it seems. Overall, I hope things work out for T-ara. I just don't want them to suffer the same fate as Black Pearl, Coed School, and other groups who seem to have fallen off due to these changes.

4minute Girl 9th April 2012 02:22 AM

That's true, I was actually surprised that he said it all so bluntly! At least this way we're well informed of what the plans for them are? Rather than keeping it all under wraps and giving us even more shocks when we least expect it. The way he worded things about the competitive environment almost seemed to sound like a potential breeding ground for rivalry and resentment amongst the members. I'm pretty sure the girls are smart enough to see past that and are well aware of what such strife could do to their careers both as a group and individuals. After watching them and reading interviews and such for the past few years they've always come across as a bunch of girls who have good heads on their shoulders. Strangely enough, they actually seem to have grown closer to each other over the past year or so, possibly because of the struggles they've all had to go through together. Even Hwayoung who appeared to be a bit of an outsider in the beginning. I'd be upset if any of the current members were to leave the group, but right now I'm not too worried about it as I don't really feel or see it happening any time soon. But like I said before, I'm all for stronger vocals in the group, just as long as they're able to deliver what was promised. :D

AyumiAi 9th April 2012 06:04 AM

Problem isnt the fact that he is adding two new members, as annoying as it is, it's the fact that he is doing so to create competition between the members and create a living environment where the members always feel like the other is going to get them kicked out of T-ara! That is not a healthy way to run a group, and nothing good can come of it.

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Originally Posted by 4minute Girl (Post 2849321)
By giving Qri and Boram more lines? The fact is that having a stronger vocal line will give them more opportunities to try out new styles that they're simply not capable of doing now. It's not something I'm implying. It's something that they explicitly stated just a few days ago.

Boram has a beautiful voice in case you havent heard her pre debut solo releases... She is one of the most under rated singers

AyusakiFan 9th April 2012 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AyumiAi (Post 2849408)
Problem isnt the fact that he is adding two new members, as annoying as it is, it's the fact that he is doing so to create competition between the members and create a living environment where the members always feel like the other is going to get them kicked out of T-ara! That is not a healthy way to run a group, and nothing good can come of it.



Boram has a beautiful voice in case you havent heard her pre debut solo releases... She is one of the most under rated singers

I agree with you. The environment that he intends to create within the group will end up making things worse rather than improving them. Creating a competitiveness that makes people feel like they have to do whatever it takes to stay in the group is animalistic and breeds conflict in my opinion. And like you said, the other girls whose voices aren't showcased as much do have nice voices. They were good enough for them to be selected for this group in the beginning so why is it a problem now especially in the midst of their current success? The logical thing to do is to make changes when things are not going well, not when a group is starting to garner success. And lets be honest, with the addition of two members, they're going to be reduced to being copycats of SNSD with every step they take.

adantatu2 10th April 2012 07:07 AM

He is just trollin' T-ARA members, XD

AyumiAi 10th April 2012 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AyusakiFan (Post 2849557)
I agree with you. The environment that he intends to create within the group will end up making things worse rather than improving them. Creating a competitiveness that makes people feel like they have to do whatever it takes to stay in the group is animalistic and breeds conflict in my opinion. And like you said, the other girls whose voices aren't showcased as much do have nice voices. They were good enough for them to be selected for this group in the beginning so why is it a problem now especially in the midst of their current success? The logical thing to do is to make changes when things are not going well, not when a group is starting to garner success. And lets be honest, with the addition of two members, they're going to be reduced to being copycats of SNSD with every step they take.

Yea I really don't understand what the hell KKS is doing...

I don't think that just because they have 9 members they are now imitations of SNSD... The number of people in the group doesnt really change what kind of group they are... 0_O like why does no one say OMG MISS A is copying BEG because they are 4 girls... seriously..

AyusakiFan 10th April 2012 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AyumiAi (Post 2850180)
Yea I really don't understand what the hell KKS is doing...

I don't think that just because they have 9 members they are now imitations of SNSD... The number of people in the group doesnt really change what kind of group they are... 0_O like why does no one say OMG MISS A is copying BEG because they are 4 girls... seriously..

Unfortunately, many people have already started trying to compare T-ara and SNSD because of their group size before these two members have even officially been added. As a fan of SNSD and T-ara, it's easy to differentiate between the two as far as their stlyes, music, etc. but some people in the kpop fandom such as extreme fans and antis are already having a field day with this, especially since SNSD is either the only or one of the few girl groups that actually have 9 members. For example, it's more common to have groups with 4 or 5 members so no one really starts comparing based on numbers such as that. As childish as I think this type of behavior is, it's common in the kpop fandom. Petty arguments comparing artists and people having the "this group is trying to be like this group" or "this group is better than this one" are almost inevitable in this fandom. I hate that it has to be that way and that people can't be more mature about it.

AyusakiFan 11th April 2012 04:49 AM

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[12.04.11] T-ara signs a separate contract with an agency specialized in acting

Girl group T-ara has signed an exclusive contract with an Management Koo, an agency specializing in acting management.

Management Koo revealed the reason they signed the contracts and said on the 11th, "All of T-ara members have been working hard become the best actresses. Not only in Korea, but in Japan and other Asian markets, T-ara are consistently becoming more popular as singers and actresses."

"Compared to other groups, each T-ara member has their own image. In the future, the members plan to be more structured and take on a more active acting schedule, and because of their future plans, we made the contracts with them."

T-ara members are active as singers under Core Contents Media, but their agency decided to give them the help of a professional agency to help them develop their acting careers further.

Management Koo has a system where they help their actors and actresses get professional help in letting their popularity grow in a variety of different acting fields. Their actors and actresses are able to go through smooth casting systems, while being able to get the opportunity to choose the roles of their choice, as well as rights to their modeling/image and various other fields. Management Koo in the future plans to go into film and drama production as well.

Meanwhile, T-ara will begin new album activities in June and then celebrate their 3-year anniversary with their first solo concert and then go on a nationwide tour in Japan.

Source: http://news.nate.com/view/20120411n02367
Translated by: Nathaniel @Diadem
This is a very interesting development. Prior to announcing the member change, T-ara stated that they would stop acting this year to focus on their music activities. Now they're signing with an exclusive contract with separate agency to focus on acting? I can't definitively speak on what's going on but it seems like they're up to something. Mastering their skills in acting certainly would give them a future outside of singing if they do well. It's good to see them branched outside of CCM though, especially in at least one aspect of their careers.

freedreamer 11th April 2012 05:17 AM

It just sounds like a back-up plan to me. CCM seems to be filled with people who are actresses-***-singers

AyusakiFan 11th April 2012 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by freedreamer (Post 2850379)
It just sounds like a back-up plan to me. CCM seems to be filled with people who are actresses-***-singers

It's definitely a backup plan with convenient timing, especially since this agency has no ties to CCM. I wonder why CCM agreed to let them work under another management company for acting instead of their own or even a subsidiary of the company. Isn't that money that CCM is losing that's going to this agency? That's what I find unusual.

4minute Girl 11th April 2012 07:26 PM

Roly Poly jumped from #45 last week to #31 this week :) The total is 57,532 now. It's the sixth week already but hopefully the sales will remain steady for the next 1-2 weeks, I want them to break 60k!

Also, as of March 31, Lovey Dovey has been downloaded 3,294,359 times. As of right now it's the #1 selling song of 2012! If you were to place this on 2011's annual chart, it would already be #6 and that's only with the past 3 months of sales! This year they should should once again have one of the biggest songs of the year, after IGCBOY at #5 in 2010 and Roly Poly at #1 in 2011. :)

BTW, it's said that the two new members won't be participating in T-ara's concert tour in June-July.

Tom Punks 14th April 2012 05:27 PM

Eunjung was mugged. :(

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T-ara‘s Eunjung has been robbed of a staggering, 23,000 Euros (~ $30,078 USD) while in Italy.

During T-ara’s stay in Italy, Eunjung was put in charge of managing the budget for T-ara and Core Content Media‘s new seven-member girl group.

It has been reported that on April 12th at 5PM, Central European Time, the group took a short break during their photo shoot at a cathedral square in Milano. At this time, Eunjung went to purchase some coffee when she was robbed, losing her handbag to a thief. Although 23,000 Euros were lost from the unfortunate incident, the members’ passports were kept by a different staff member, which is a huge relief.

Regarding the accident, Eunjung expressed grief and sadly stated, “I’m so sorry to T-ara and the other seven members. I will reimburse the money when I return to South Korea.” Meanwhile the other members expressed, “She did her best as our guide. She was robbed while she was working hard, so it’s ok.”

Eunjung also expressed her gratitude to her fellow members who comforted her after the accident, stating, “We were able to successfully complete the filming due to the other members who stood by and comforted me.”

However, one staff member revealed what happened behind the scenes. “After the filming was finished, Eunjung went back to the hotel and cried all night,” he stated.

In related news, videos of T-ara and Core Content Media’s new girl group’s Europe trip have been frequently updated on Loen‘s official Youtube channel.

http://www.allkpop.com/2012/04/t-ara...euros-in-italy
Is it bad that my first thought was "their CEO is gonna kick her out now?" >_>

4minute Girl 14th April 2012 08:08 PM

Wow, I wonder why she was carrying that much cash in her purse... that's never a good idea.
At least nothing happened to her. :)

Anyway, here are some videos they released from their trip:
Spoiler:



And pictures:


With the new group:

mobius 16th April 2012 03:07 PM

Poor Eunjung.

My question is why is she's the one responsible with the money and why not the staff?

AyusakiFan 17th April 2012 03:20 PM

The official tracklist and album details for "Jewelry Box" have been released!

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tracklist & details

// Track List //
*Order of tracks is undecided
*All tracks are Japanese ver.

01) Bo Peep Bo Peep
02) LOVE ME ! ~ あなたのせいで狂いそう~ (I Go Crazy Because Of You)
03) Apple is A
04) Keep Out (Japan Original track)
05) T.T.L ~ Time to Love ~
06) Roly-Poly
07) Breaking Heart ~ 私がとても痛くて(I'm Really Hurt)
08) コジンマル~嘘~(Lies)
09) ウェイロニ (Why Are You Being Like This)
10) yayaya
11) Cry Cry
12) Lovey-Dovey
13) T-ARATiC MAGiC MUSiC (Japan Original track)



// Details //
The Album has three Editions in all, 'Diamond' , 'Sapphire' and 'Pearl'

【Diamond-type】
*6,800yen (tax in )
*Special Jewelry box package
*100P Photobook
*Tradeing Cards (1type of random 8 types)
*flyer of Lottery reservation ticket of Concert in Tokyo
*DVD (Video: Christmas Concert in Japan 2011)(90min)

【Sapphire-type】
*3,600yen (tax in )
*Special digipak package
*32P Photobook
*Tradeing Cards (1type of random 8 types)
*flyer of Lottery reservation ticket of Concert in Tokyo
*DVD (video:History of T-ARA , since their Japanese debut)

【Pearl-type】
*3,000yen (tax in )
*nomal package
*Tradeing Cards (1type of random 8 types)
*flyer of Lottery reservation ticket of Concert in Tokyo


Source: http://www.emimusic.jp/artist/t-ara?action=news&id=9243
Translated by: tarawota @ Diadem

sanzo2011 17th April 2012 03:33 PM

OMG! just 2 new songs!@@!
I love yayaya but they should have released Wae ironi as a single back then!~~!

ahtka-chan 17th April 2012 06:04 PM

/facepalming all the way...

Man, I wish they get out of CCM. That agency sucks!

ayurocks20 17th April 2012 11:54 PM

Considering I don't have any of their Japanese singles or Korean albums... This is pretty cool to me. It comes with a concert ^_^ What more could I want?

EDIT: Also, we know how much awfulness they've been through, they're probably way too worked over and stressed to record new songs, in between their works in Korea and Japan as well as their upcoming Japan Tour and the training of 2 new members.

adantatu2 18th April 2012 01:29 AM

just 2 new songs, oh well, i hope we can get now unreleased songs in the future (What other korean song they can sing in japanese ? )

AyusakiFan 18th April 2012 04:25 AM

Although I was hoping that their new album would have more than 2 new songs, I can't say that I'm surprised that it consists mostly of remakes. At first I was a little disappointed, but considering their busy schedules and everything that they've been through recently, I'm just grateful that they've had the time to even record an album, lol. Plus they're remaking some of my favorite songs so I'm excited about that and super curious about the new songs. I was hoping that one of the DVDs would contain all of the Japanese MVs they've released leading up to this album but with the release of their music video collection, I'm hoping it's an indication that they'll do something similiar with this set of videos in the future. I'm definitely going to get the diamond edition since it has special jewelry box packaging, a 100 page photobook, and full concert footage. I wouldn't mind the sapphire edition for the history footage but since I'm going to stick to buying one edition, I'm getting the diamond version.

AyusakiFan 18th April 2012 03:20 PM

The album is now up for preorder!

CDJapan:
Diamond Edition
Sapphire Edition
Pearl Edition

YesAsia:
Diamond Edition
Sapphire Edition
Pearl Edition

HMV:
Diamond Edition
Sapphire Edition
Pearl Edition

Amazon JP:
Diamond Edition
Sapphire Edition
Pearl Edition

I preordered the Diamond Edition from CDJapan this morning! I hope that the album covers are posted soon!

4minute Girl 18th April 2012 07:28 PM

I'm not too worried about the Japanese album only having 2 new songs either. To be honest I'm not very interested in their Japanese activities anyway, I'd rather they put the effort into their Korean releases. :P I haven't purchased any of their Japanese singles but I might buy the album if the packaging is nice. I want the extras that come with the diamond edition.

Roly Poly sold another 1,087 copies this week so the total is now 58,619. So close to 60k! I hope they make it.


What I really want is this:
http://nimg.nate.com/orgImg/nn/2012/...26211002_2.jpg

Too bad they aren't putting it on sale and only 300 copies were printed :( I guess I'll have to settle for Sparkle

AyusakiFan 19th April 2012 11:04 PM

A first press external bonus of a photo will be included with all versions of "Jewelry Box."

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Originally Posted by 4minute Girl (Post 2854116)
What I really want is this:
http://nimg.nate.com/orgImg/nn/2012/...26211002_2.jpg

Too bad they aren't putting it on sale and only 300 copies were printed :( I guess I'll have to settle for Sparkle

I would really like to have this book as well and am sad that it won't be available for sale. I read that 20 of the books are going to given away in a contest to those who can come up with the best name for the new group but what about the other 280 copies? If they aren't going to be sold, what are they going to do with them? Speaking of Sparkle, I can't wait until my copy arrives in the mail!

mobius 22nd April 2012 02:33 AM

Crap, YesAsia is selling the Diamond version for $93.00? :shakehead

I'm not really too big on their Japanese remake songs but I'm interested in hearing the Japanese version of I'm really hurt and TTL

That not-for-sale photobook looks really good.

In somewhat T-ara related news...

the new CCM girl group has a name.....Gang Kids...:shakehead

http://www.allkpop.com/2012/04/core-...lled-gang-kids

AyusakiFan 23rd April 2012 07:59 AM

I normally purchase albums from YA because they tend to be cheaper for me on total price including shipping and handling (and I get cashback for my purchases) but I ended up placing my order at CDJapan for this album because YA has it listed for way too much, even with the free shipping. You can get it cheaper at HMV with EMS shipping (I would have bought it at HMV but I wanted to pay for this album with paypal and not worry about being charged for it at a later date). BTW, it appears that the number for the first press edition of the album is dwindling down on CDJ so for those of you who want to place an order there, I would suggest you do so soon so you don't miss out on getting it with the first press bonus.

According to T-ara's Official Japanese website, a teaser clip of "Lovey-Dovey (Japanese Version) will be aired tommorrow (24th) on the TV show "ZIP!".

Also, T-ara's official Japanese website has posted a teaser of their Lovey-Dovey &Cry Cry Music Video Making Teaser for the Cry Cry & Lovey-Dovey Music Video Collection DVD & Blu-ray. I'm unsure if LOENENT posted these clips on their youtube channel but I'm posting it just in case they haven't (too lazy to check, lol):


ayurocks20 23rd April 2012 01:02 PM

DUMB QUESTION ALERT: Does anyone know what the set-list for the X'mas live concert was? I'm not sure if I want to by that version or the T-ARA History version... I assume by History, they mean all their PV's... right?

AyusakiFan 23rd April 2012 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ayurocks20 (Post 2855815)
DUMB QUESTION ALERT: Does anyone know what the set-list for the X'mas live concert was? I'm not sure if I want to by that version or the T-ARA History version... I assume by History, they mean all their PV's... right?

I did a short search for the setlist and could only find information regarding three songs they performed, which are the title tracks of their Japanese singles (Bo Peep Bo Peep, yayaya, and Roly-Poly). The DVD is 90 minutes long so obviously the tracklist is longer than that so I'm hoping that it will be revealed in full as we get closer to the release date. As far as the T-ara History DVD that comes with the Sapphire Edition, I'm doubtful that it contains their music videos. It would typically be stated if it were music videos in the DVD tracklist. Korean artists under EMI usually leave their MVs exclusive to their singles as well. The disc is supposed to be an hour long and they currently do not have that many Japanese videos out to fit the timeframe. I'm assuming that it's a documentary featuring footage of their time in Japan since their Japanese debut to now.

4minute Girl 23rd April 2012 04:37 PM

I want to see the album art and packaging for the diamond edition before I decide to spend that much money on it. :dead2 I have decided I want to buy the album though, I just don't know which version I want yet!

BTW, CCM opened the poll for the official fanclub name, the options were chosen from fan suggestions. If you want to vote you can join and level up in the fancafe using this tutorial, then go here to vote. The poll ends on April 29th.

The meaning behind Tarathenas is obvious, T-ara + athenas. They came up with Tiramisu from the Italian words Tirare(끌어올리다) + Mi(나를) + Su(위로) = "I'll Pull/Hold You Up." Apollon comes from the Greek god (the god of music) with the fans being the god protecting T-ara or sth. T-ara Castle is obvious too. Then there's Snow Drop and another one I don't get. Apollon is currently leading, but it just started a few hours ago.

I voted for Tiramisu because it's delicious :love

Tom Punks 23rd April 2012 06:28 PM

Omg tiramisu plz

AyusakiFan 24th April 2012 02:32 AM

The teaser for the Lovey Dovey (Japanese Ver.) MV starts at :33:



As much as I hate to complain about the quality of the MV, I have to admit that it looks super cheap from this clip. I'm looking forward to hearing the song in full but I'm not as enthusiastic about the video.

adantatu2 24th April 2012 02:57 AM

Honestly their japanese PV's are really cheap, f.e. i saw they used a Canon camera to film the whole pv for Bo Peep Bo Peep. And they use scenes from their korean MV's

4minute Girl 24th April 2012 05:25 AM

I'm really uninterested in this release, lol. It even seems a bit unnecessary since the album is coming out 14 days after the single. I mean I get why they're doing it but I don't really care:dead2 It would be so much better if their Japanese company had a better creative team for them because it all looks so amateur.

In other news, today is 1000 days since T-ara debuted :love
And according to some untranslated articles I missed before, it is their second full length album they're preparing for their Korean comeback. Hopefully those plans don't change :D

freedreamer 24th April 2012 11:18 AM

gosh that MV looks really..sad..
at least the vocals seem clearer

AyusakiFan 25th April 2012 02:34 AM

The Lovey-Dovey (Japanese ver.) full MV is out.


adantatu2 26th April 2012 04:11 AM

^thanks
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It would be so much better if their Japanese company had a better creative team for them because it all looks so amateur.
Yes :yes And Lovey Dovey PV isn't an exception :o
At least the japanese version sounds good

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In other news, today is 1000 days since T-ara debuted :love
And according to some untranslated articles I missed before, it is their second full length album they're preparing for their Korean comeback. Hopefully those plans don't change :D
With their horrible company, they could split the album in two, or release different dates like in the past.

ayurocks20 27th April 2012 02:22 AM

I'm in Japan at the moment and bought their Lovey-Dovey&Cry Cry music video collection thing :) It's really good. Very expensive, but worth it. The making of both of the videos is decently long, there's english subtitles and it's really good quality. There's also a LOT of photos to look through. I'll post a photo of it soon :)

AyusakiFan 27th April 2012 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ayurocks20 (Post 2857206)
I'm in Japan at the moment and bought their Lovey-Dovey&Cry Cry music video collection thing :) It's really good. Very expensive, but worth it. The making of both of the videos is decently long, there's english subtitles and it's really good quality. There's also a LOT of photos to look through. I'll post a photo of it soon :)

I'm so happy to hear that you are happy with the "Lovey-Dovey & Cry Cry Music Video Collection" DVD! I preordered it from HMV and should be getting it next week so I'm super excited! I also got Sparkle in the mail today and will be taking pictures of it as well to post here. If possible, could you use spoiler tags when you post the photo?

ayurocks20 27th April 2012 03:20 PM

I don't know how to use Spoiler tags : ( I'm uploading the photo tomorrow after the Nami Tamaki concert : )

BTW, It's pretty obvious the biggest KPOP groups in Japan are T-ARA & KARA. There CD's are literally stacked everywhere and when I was in Tower Records, Shinjuku, they were being gobbled up by girls XD I was going to buy their 1st Album but I just... don't see a point, since I prefer their music in Japanese (minus: Lovey-Dovey and YaYaYa). Also, the DVD is packaged beautifully. i was expecting like... just a normal DVD. but it's not. It's like a giant book-like-thing with photos, then at the end of all the photos on the last page is the DVD. it's really nicely done and the photos are SUPER high quality. I think it was worth my money and I'm glad I bought it.

AyusakiFan 27th April 2012 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ayurocks20 (Post 2857369)
I don't know how to use Spoiler tags : ( I'm uploading the photo tomorrow after the Nami Tamaki concert : )

BTW, It's pretty obvious the biggest KPOP groups in Japan are T-ARA & KARA. There CD's are literally stacked everywhere and when I was in Tower Records, Shinjuku, they were being gobbled up by girls XD I was going to buy their 1st Album but I just... don't see a point, since I prefer their music in Japanese (minus: Lovey-Dovey and YaYaYa). Also, the DVD is packaged beautifully. i was expecting like... just a normal DVD. but it's not. It's like a giant book-like-thing with photos, then at the end of all the photos on the last page is the DVD. it's really nicely done and the photos are SUPER high quality. I think it was worth my money and I'm glad I bought it.

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Although I knew that T-ara was quite popular in Japan, I didn't know that they were THAT popular. I haven't been following their Japanese activities that closely so it's good to hear that they are doing well, especially from someone who is staying in Japan right now and can physically see everything that is going on. As far as the DVD, I too thought it would be coming in a regular DVD case until I saw that HMV increased the shipping price by 300 yen, lol. I figured that something must have been different about the packaging then. I can't wait to see it in person! I also hope you enjoy the Nami Tamaki concert! :)

mobius 28th April 2012 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by AyusakiFan (Post 2856513)
The Lovey-Dovey (Japanese ver.) full MV is out.


I feel like I was watching an 80's music video for some reason. Its bad, but a least its better than the Lies Japanese Version MV lol.

Also, I'm surprise that Boram actually had a whole line in this version of the song instead of just two words in the Korean Version.

freedreamer 28th April 2012 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by mobius (Post 2857602)
I feel like I was watching an 80's music video for some reason. Its bad, but a least its better than the Lies Japanese Version MV lol.

Also, I'm surprise that Boram actually had a whole line in this version of the song instead of just two words in the Korean Version.

you just made me watch the whole MV for that :D

4minute Girl 28th April 2012 03:00 PM



bondingo 30th April 2012 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ayurocks20 (Post 2857369)
BTW, It's pretty obvious the biggest KPOP groups in Japan are T-ARA & KARA.

KARA, most definitely. T-ARA, not so much. Yeah, they're popular here, but Girls' Generation are much more popular than T-ARA. KARA is probably the most popular by far though. They're everywhere on the trains, in the convenience stores, in all the music stores, etc.

AyusakiFan 1st May 2012 01:51 AM

T-ara will be releasing a digital single in a couple of days!

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T-ara releasing digital single remake song on May 3rd
Source: http://www.instiz.ne...ime%26no%3D1830
Credit: Nathaniel @ Diadem

adantatu2 1st May 2012 05:38 AM

^interesting !!!
^^I love Wild Roses CM, tey look gorgeous

AyusakiFan 11th May 2012 07:59 PM

The covers for "Jewelry Box" are out!

Pearl Edition:
http://www.tiaradiadem.com/forums/up...746_138026.jpg

Sapphire Edition:
http://www.tiaradiadem.com/forums/up...1746_23701.jpg

Diamond Edition:
http://www.tiaradiadem.com/forums/up...1746_24598.jpg

CREDIT : t-arafan + mllktea + tiaradiadem.com



According to their official website, the first press edition of the Pearl version will come with a special picture label on the disc (there are 8 types). Also, it looks as though the "History of T-ara" DVD from the Sapphire edition may contain footage from their Japanese music videos "Bo Peep Bo Peep", "Lovey-Dovey", "Roly Poly", and "yayaya (Dance Version). I'm not 100% sure if it's going to be the full videos, a video mix, or behind the scenes footage of the videos. I'm hoping that more detailed information will be available on the CD shop websites soon.

First press photos from different CD shops:

http://t-ara-official.com/images/top...20120511_4.jpg

First Press Picture Labeled CD for Pearl Edition:


ayurocks20 12th May 2012 03:52 AM

Why would they make the Pearl editions look so pretty and then the other two look real dodgy? haha

adantatu2 14th May 2012 06:59 AM

i like them :)
Please, please, OS Press for this album

AyumiAi 14th May 2012 07:20 PM

getting this!! XD no doubt about it! must support T-ara!

ayurocks20 15th May 2012 08:16 AM

Set-List for the X'Mas live DVD:

1. yayaya (JPN ver.)
2. 거짓말 (Lies Ballad ver.→Dance ver.)
MC1→ファンへ感謝のVTR
3. Bo Peep Bo Peep (JPN ver.)
4. 왜 이러니 (Why are you being like this)
5. LOVE ME! -あなたのせいで狂いそう (너 때문에 미쳐)
MC2
6. 내가 너무 아파 (I'm really hurt)
7. Show Time
8. Cry Cry (Ballad ver.→ Dance ver.)
9. Time To Love
10. Roly Poly
Encore
1. Bo Peep Bo peep (JPN ver.)
2. yayaya (JPN ver.)
3. Roly Poly (JPN ver.)

AyusakiFan 15th May 2012 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ayurocks20 (Post 2863586)
Set-List for the X'Mas live DVD:

1. yayaya (JPN ver.)
2. 거짓말 (Lies Ballad ver.→Dance ver.)
MC1→ファンへ感謝のVTR
3. Bo Peep Bo Peep (JPN ver.)
4. 왜 이러니 (Why are you being like this)
5. LOVE ME! -あなたのせいで狂いそう (너 때문에 미쳐)
MC2
6. 내가 너무 아파 (I'm really hurt)
7. Show Time
8. Cry Cry (Ballad ver.→ Dance ver.)
9. Time To Love
10. Roly Poly
Encore
1. Bo Peep Bo peep (JPN ver.)
2. yayaya (JPN ver.)
3. Roly Poly (JPN ver.)

Thank you so much for posting the setlist! I can't wait to see the concert! I'm really curious about "Show Time". From what I recall, it's not in their Korean or Japanese discography. I'm wondering if it's a special performance or song made just for this concert.

ayurocks20 15th May 2012 11:31 PM

It might be a cover of another K-POP song... I don't know though haha ^_^

PEARL 16th May 2012 06:27 AM

recently...i just got into them after watching running man LOL.
i must say their first album is very solid!!! cant wait for their next material~

mobius 21st May 2012 02:40 PM

The Pearl Edition cover is the best out of the 3 covers.

I might pickup this album even though I'm not to big on their Japanese activities

I've been liking this song a lot lately:

Yangpa, Lee Boram and Soyeon - I know




AyusakiFan 21st May 2012 05:47 PM

I hope T-ARA's official Japanese website will post clips from the DVDs that are coming with the album. I'm considering purchasing the Sapphire Edition in addition to the Diamond Edition but I would like to see some of the content first before making my decision.

BTW, here's a performance of T-ara singing Lovey-Dovey (Japanese ver.) at Girls' Factory in Japan on the 19th:


ayurocks20 21st May 2012 11:19 PM

Did they take away Boram's verse...?

AyusakiFan 23rd May 2012 05:27 PM

^ They gave the line to Jiyeon but let Boram still have "Samishi suki".

T-ARA's single "Lovey Dovey (Japanese Version)" debuted in the #5 spot on Oricon today! To be honest, I'm really surprised it charted so well since "Lovey Dovey" is the only song on the single which is also on their album that is going to be released in 2 weeks. I hope that this is an indication that their album is going to sell well too! I also hope they are able to maintain a top spot although AKB48's got that #1 spot secured for sure.

Also, here is the MV for T-ara's remake digital single "Round and Round" that I posted about awhile back. It came out later than originally reported.



News regarding T-ara's new member additions:

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[12.05.23] T-ara coming back with eight members in early July
Seven member girl group T-ara will comeback as eight members this summer.

The seven members of T-ara: Eunjung, Hyomin, Soyeon, Qri, Boram, Jiyeon and Hwayoung, will comeback with a new album in Korea in the first week of July. This time around, they will gain one new member to promote as eight members but eventually become nine members.

The new member who will join in July is a 3rd year high school student with both beauty and musical talent. It's also known that the other member is a 3rd year junior high school student. Core Contents Media commented, "We have decided on the two new members, but it's not a confirmation yet. Depending on how things out, a different member than what is planned now may join."

In April, Core Contents Media's CEO announced the reorganization of the group by saying, "T-ara will gain two new members to become nine members."

T-ara will gain one of their two new members this summer, and then later in the year a second member will officially join. The new member will appear introduced through T-ara's music video and plans to meet fans beforehand.

On the 23rd, T-ara's agency said to Star News, "T-ara wants to have a fresh start this summer. As already stated, they'll become nine members, but first they'll first become a girl group with eight members."

T-ara will work with their composers who have helped them create hits in the past including Cho Youngsoo and Shinsadong Tiger. T-ara's unique new music will return.

Ahead of their comeback, T-ara are beginning their sold out tour in Japan in June. T-ara will perform as seven members at their Japanese concert tour beginning on June 18th in Nagoya, Japan.

T-ara has became one of the national girl groups with their consecutive hits and plan to keep it coming.

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Source: http://news.nate.com.../20120523n08176
Translated by: Nathaniel @ Diadem

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T-ara's new members will be revealed on May 31st and June 7th.

Core Contents Media revealed on the 23rd, "T-ara's eight member is 19 years old (Korean age) and has both skills and looks better than an average rookie. When T-ara begins promotions this summer with a new album, we expect a lot of attention for T-ara's eighth member."

T-ara's other new member was revealed to have grown up in the United States since age four and will be introduced to fans through acting in T-ara's new music video.

The new member who will join in July is a 3rd year high school student with both beauty and musical talent. It's also known that the other member is a 3rd year junior high school student. Core Contents Media commented, "We have decided on the two new members, but it's not a confirmation yet. Depending on how things turn out, a different member than what is planned now may join instead."

The two new members both have strong charisma and cute looks, and have an average height of 167cm.

T-ara said, "Please look forward to our new members and new songs."

Meanwhile, T-ara are currently preparing for a concert in Thailand and a tour in Japan and their solo Korean concert in July.

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Source: http://news.nate.com.../20120523n12295
Translated by: Nathaniel @ Diadem
It has been reported by a couple of Korean news' sources that this girl (whose name is Danee and 14 years old) will be the 9th member of T-ara who will debut with them later this year. This has not been officially confirmed by CCM:

http://s14.directupload.net/images/120523/8s88azdz.jpg

http://s14.directupload.net/images/120523/g5fu4dyu.jpg


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