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tsumekaze_ 6th November 2014 07:11 PM

Jpopsuki freeleech?
 
Guys, since jpopsuki got hacked or whatever last year it seems that no one is taking care of it anymore. I mean, WHEN are they going to have freeleech period again? Does someone know where it's possible to contact anyone who is in charge of the site? There should have been two freeleech periods already, and it's been more than a year!
Do you have any idea on what is happening?

FIRSTKLAS 6th November 2014 07:34 PM

If you mean the DDoS attack thing, I don't think that has anything to do with it.

I think it's just that MellowB, the SysOp (and founder), hasn't visited the site for 10 months and he's usually the one that enables it.

If he doesn't come back during the holiday season, we probably won't get a freeleech period this Christmas either. :|

tsumekaze_ 6th November 2014 07:39 PM

^ I was exactly afraid of that! I have SO MUCH music I want to download during christmas. I've been bookmarking all year.

Tom Punks 6th November 2014 09:30 PM

WTF is with these owners, founders, admins etc. just leaving their sites to rot? I seriously don't get it. Sure, real life gets in the way and managing a big community is work, but not even signing on just to look at it in almost a year? WTF?????????????????????????

tsumekaze_ 7th November 2014 08:51 AM

At least, if you know that you are not going to be able to manage the site anymore because of personal issues just GIVE the admin/mod position to someone else. There are people, affectionate users of these sites who have to suffer this kind of idgaf attitude. Bah

Chiharo 7th November 2014 09:05 AM

I never liked anyone who runs that site, even most of the mods, really. Most of them seem far too stuck up, but I turn a blind eye to it so I can get the stuff I need (if there was a good alternative to Jpopsuki I would have left a long time ago).

Oh, and this thing was posted 4 months ago: "Can some of you guys please stop being idiots with the recommendations. Thank you."

Seriously? To write something like this the only thing you have to be *is* an idiot. To me it feels like the site is being run by power hungry kids and nothing more. If you want to say that recommendations posted are unreasonable for whatever reason, there are far more mature ways of saying it. Sorry if I offended anyone, not my intention.

FIRSTKLAS 7th November 2014 09:43 AM

^That was posted because someone recommended Namie's entire discography in the span of a few hours. :laugh

And the mods aren't that bad, really. It's just that there's absolutely no leadership at the site. MellowB is the SysOp and founder so the other mods want to defer to him when it comes to big decisions but he's hardly ever there, or he hardly ever gives clear directions, so they're left to muddle through it all by themselves.

Add to that, I think there's only 2 or 3 mods (semi-)regularly tending to the site so you might understand why they may come across off as surly in the forums. :P

Chiharo 7th November 2014 10:46 AM

^I didn't really know that. But still, I don't think that's really an excuse. I mean, just seeing that written without knowing what was going on makes you feel like you're in a totally wrong place. But I guess they are not all that bad if that's what they have to deal with. In any case, I've just gotten a bad impression of them from seeing everything I saw, doesn't mean they really are as awful as I think they are.

TeamAyu2004 7th November 2014 01:38 PM

I dont see why you are complaining... you are getting FREE shit. get over it. let them run the site they want too.. its theres. If you dont like it you can leave.

As for free leech.... i hope they do it this year... christmas time is when i get all my DVDs and the random music I dont want to kill my ratio on.

Tom Punks 7th November 2014 02:34 PM

^ People don't get a free pass to be rude just because they're giving you nice stuff lol.

TeamAyu2004 7th November 2014 03:21 PM

they werent being rude. someone wasn't following the rules so they got called out on it. thats not rude. thats just life.
could they have handled it a different way, sure, but everything could always be handled a different way.

Chiharo 7th November 2014 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 3103104)
I dont see why you are complaining... you are getting FREE shit. get over it. let them run the site they want too.. its theres. If you dont like it you can leave.

First of all, I don't understand why you are so hostile. Really? In what way does this affect you so strongly to tell someone to "get over" a valid point they made in a forum. If someone called you an idiot ANYWHERE in my book that is a problem. Human beings should treat each other decently. You really don't think so? I am not even really complaining. Whatever, they can treat people however they want. But it doesn't make it right, and it makes the site look bad, too.

Second of all, the "free shit" I'm getting isn't and never was theirs. I know this isn't what you referred to, but I also contributed to the site, as well as other people have. Anyone with some money and some motivation could make a tracker like Jpopsuki, it's not like you need to upload stuff yourself to make this work. I'm not diminishing the work they did to make it work, but being an ass, no matter what you offer or what you achieved, can never really be excused.

Getting that out of the way, my biggest problem with Jpopsuki is that they act like they are gods and like we own everything to them while the owner even isn't there and obviously doesn't care. Like the stuff uploaded there really IS theirs and like we are just hopeless lowlifes trying to get their stuff.

All I'm trying to say is that I don't understand why people would ever want to treat each other this way, anywhere, any time. But that's life, I guess.

Sorry for the rant.

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Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 3103112)
they werent being rude. someone wasn't following the rules so they got called out on it. thats not rude. thats just life.
could they have handled it a different way, sure, but everything could always be handled a different way.

So if someone verbally (or in any other way?) abuses you, other people are supposed to tell you "It's just life. Get over it." Right?

Tom Punks 7th November 2014 03:36 PM

But it WAS rude lol. How do you justify calling your users "idiots" for breaking rules as NOT being rude? As far as I know, there isn't even a written rule that you can't recommend an artist's entire discography. Sure, it's stupid to do so, but not against the rules. And even if it was a rule, does that person deserve being publicly, albeit anonymously, called out by the moderators as being an idiot? No, because that's rude and tactless and tacky. And they don't get a free pass to be rude just because they're providing a service for free.

TeamAyu2004 7th November 2014 04:23 PM

I don't believe it was rude at all. If you are being stupid then you deserve to be called out on it. Like I said before... was there another way around it?
Yes of course, but even if they had said.
: It seems some people are not reading the rules and they need to re read them before posting request:
Someone would say they were being rude. My point is about rephrasing is that no matter what people say SOMEONE will be offended.

And sorry about the rules comment. For some reason I read recommend as request, which is against the rules. As for recommending all of it, Im sure it can be pretty annoying to the person who has to sift through that so yes, its okay to call someone out on it. and the direct quote was:
"Can some of you guys please stop being idiots with the recommendations. Thank you."
This person didnt call anyone out but a group. It would have been tactless to call the direct user out but to say a general: "Could the idiots stop." Is not rude.

And I believe you do get a free pass to be rude if you are providing something. Its their place. They should be able to do what they want.
If it were a store and the owner was rude. that's the owners call. You don't have to shop there. You don't have to go there at all. Pick another place.

But to come to a another place complain about it is pretty tactless and a waste of time as well.

TeamAyu2004 7th November 2014 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiharo (Post 3103114)
First of all, I don't understand why you are so hostile. Really? In what way does this affect you so strongly to tell someone to "get over" a valid point they made in a forum. If someone called you an idiot ANYWHERE in my book that is a problem. Human beings should treat each other decently. You really don't think so? I am not even really complaining. Whatever, they can treat people however they want. But it doesn't make it right, and it makes the site look bad, too.

I'm not being hostile. I'm expressing a point. And if you don't like the way i'm expressing my point then get over it. Thats not being hostile. Thats you being a baby about life.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiharo (Post 3103114)
Second of all, the "free shit" I'm getting isn't and never was theirs. I know this isn't what you referred to, but I also contributed to the site, as well as other people have. Anyone with some money and some motivation could make a tracker like Jpopsuki, it's not like you need to upload stuff yourself to make this work. I'm not diminishing the work they did to make it work, but being an ass, no matter what you offer or what you achieved, can never really be excused.

This is a completely pointless comment. You are getting free shit so stop bitching.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiharo (Post 3103114)
Getting that out of the way, my biggest problem with Jpopsuki is that they act like they are gods and like we own everything to them while the owner even isn't there and obviously doesn't care. Like the stuff uploaded there really IS theirs and like we are just hopeless lowlifes trying to get their stuff.

All I'm trying to say is that I don't understand why people would ever want to treat each other this way, anywhere, any time. But that's life, I guess.

Sorry for the rant.

I have no idea where you are getting that.... because they dont act like that. They have rules, I'm pretty sure people try and cut them all the time and they have to deal with those idiots all the time so they are snippy, but if you had to deal with it I bet you would be pretty snippy too.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiharo (Post 3103114)
So if someone verbally (or in any other way?) abuses you, other people are supposed to tell you "It's just life. Get over it." Right?

Yes. I would tell you and anyone else who was verbal abused by someone on the net or some random person to get over it. Life isn't fair and with over 7 billion people on this planet everyone will not get along. Someone will say something that rubs you the wrong way. Why stress over it? They don't know you. You don't know them. Why stress over something you cant control? Get over it.

Tom Punks 7th November 2014 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 3103128)
I don't believe it was rude at all. If you are being stupid then you deserve to be called out on it. Like I said before... was there another way around it?
Yes of course, but even if they had said.
: It seems some people are not reading the rules and they need to re read them before posting request:
Someone would say they were being rude. My point is about rephrasing is that no matter what people say SOMEONE will be offended.

I don't think anyone would have objected to that phrasing lol. That's much more professional. I can't imagine any universe in which anyone would object to that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 3103128)
And I believe you do get a free pass to be rude if you are providing something. Its their place. They should be able to do what they want.
If it were a store and the owner was rude. that's the owners call. You don't have to shop there. You don't have to go there at all. Pick another place.

Well, ignoring the fact that there really ISN'T another place like jpopsuki, let me rephrase.

If you are rude, even if you are providing a service for free, you should still be called out on being rude. Obviously, none of us lowly jpopsuki users can do anything to STOP it, but that doesn't mean it's cool to abuse your mod status to call other people mean names. We don't have to sweep it under the rug just because we aren't paying. Rude is rude, rude can be called out regardless of who you are and what site you run.

And the shop analogy doesn't match up. Business owners don't get free passes for being rude either. If you are rude to customers, customers won't come back, and then your business will suffer. Business owners can't just do what they want just because they own the place -- not if they don't want to see their business go down the toilet.

TeamAyu2004 7th November 2014 04:50 PM

Well 1. There are other places like jpop, you just have to find them.
2. I didn't say you don't have to call then out. I said get over it.
Which leads to 3. The shop analogy is good because there is a price for their "rudeness" the stupid people. Just because there is no money being interchanged you still have to deal with people. Jpopsuki is like a store just no money being changed hands.

Chiharo 7th November 2014 04:52 PM

@TeamAyu2004

Okay, so let's turn this on you. Why are you bothered by my "complaining" if that's just life and there are going to be people like that, too? Aren't you a baby too for commenting on this (as it obviously bothered you)?

I won't argue with you because you are insulting me for absolutely no reason. Have a nice day.

Tom Punks 7th November 2014 04:54 PM

Mrrrowww.

TeamAyu2004 7th November 2014 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiharo (Post 3103141)
@TeamAyu2004

Okay, so let's turn this on you. Why are you bothered by my "complaining" if that's just life and there are going to be people like that, too? Aren't you a baby too for commenting on this (as it obviously bothered you)?

I won't argue with you because you are insulting me for absolutely no reason. Have a nice day.

You just proved my point. By acting like a child :D
I'm not even bothered by you. You commented on something and I commented back. That's what forums are for. You'll have to point out where I insulted you, because I didn't.

Chiharo 7th November 2014 06:22 PM

You act as if your life philosophy is the only thing that's right in the world, and you force it on everyone else. Let me remind you where you insulted me: You called me a baby, a child, told me to "get over it", and also told me to "stop bitching". So apparently my opinion is bitching, and what you say is wisdom unable to be moved by anything. I really don't want this to be unpleasant. I'm a person who hates conflict, and I knew that somewhere along the road someone like you might have appeared after I posted what I did. Which is why I usually avoid posting anything. If this makes you think I'm an immature baby, so be it. No one is perfect. People are different.

Yes, I agree life is unfair, and I agree not everyone can get along, and it's good to be unmoved by certain things. But as you said yourself, there are over 7 billion people in this world, and ultimately everyone is different. What doesn't affect you might affect someone else in ways you couldn't imagine. Are you saying they don't have the right to feel the way they do? They should get over it? What would you say to people who are trying to end their life at this very moment? Don't you think there is a chance a simple name calling would be able to trigger awful things in someone, which they can't control? Not everyone is "strong". Actually, no, there is no human being that is "strong" in this world. You are weak, I am weak, we all are weak and flawed. Telling anyone to "get over it" isn't going to help them. Do you want to tell that to mentally sick people? People with all kinds of disorders and problems with self-esteem? Those are real. Because what you are telling the other person in exchange for feeling superior over them is "You are alone". And we all know how awful this is to the core. That's why I wish we could treat each other more gently.

Now, you might not be this kind of person. That is great and amazing. You can go ahead and laugh at me, as well as anyone else can and be even more condescending. I'm just asking you to consider these things and I apologize if I offended you in any way. I also apologize for being off topic.

milky_way 7th November 2014 08:12 PM

Well, this got ugly quick.

Tom Punks 7th November 2014 08:21 PM

Ironically, some people don't know how to practice what they preach and ~let it go~.

Chiharo 7th November 2014 09:14 PM

Whatever, I'm ~letting it go~, as the cool people here would say.

Tom Punks 7th November 2014 10:10 PM

^ Not you, him. lol

Zeke. 7th November 2014 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiharo (Post 3103172)
You act as if your life philosophy is the only thing that's right in the world, and you force it on everyone else. Let me remind you where you insulted me: You called me a baby, a child, told me to "get over it", and also told me to "stop bitching". So apparently my opinion is bitching, and what you say is wisdom unable to be moved by anything. I really don't want this to be unpleasant. I'm a person who hates conflict, and I knew that somewhere along the road someone like you might have appeared after I posted what I did. Which is why I usually avoid posting anything. If this makes you think I'm an immature baby, so be it. No one is perfect. People are different.

Yes, I agree life is unfair, and I agree not everyone can get along, and it's good to be unmoved by certain things. But as you said yourself, there are over 7 billion people in this world, and ultimately everyone is different. What doesn't affect you might affect someone else in ways you couldn't imagine. Are you saying they don't have the right to feel the way they do? They should get over it? What would you say to people who are trying to end their life at this very moment? Don't you think there is a chance a simple name calling would be able to trigger awful things in someone, which they can't control? Not everyone is "strong". Actually, no, there is no human being that is "strong" in this world. You are weak, I am weak, we all are weak and flawed. Telling anyone to "get over it" isn't going to help them. Do you want to tell that to mentally sick people? People with all kinds of disorders and problems with self-esteem? Those are real. Because what you are telling the other person in exchange for feeling superior over them is "You are alone". And we all know how awful this is to the core. That's why I wish we could treat each other more gently.

Now, you might not be this kind of person. That is great and amazing. You can go ahead and laugh at me, as well as anyone else can and be even more condescending. I'm just asking you to consider these things and I apologize if I offended you in any way. I also apologize for being off topic.

Usually people who don't like conflict just don't know how to handle situations properly or are unable to back-up their own beliefs and/or outlook. However, you did an amazing job! You brought up valid points and I believe your mentality was supported more-so than your opponents (this isn't anything personal against TeamAyu2004, I'm just trying to point out the fact that you handled the conflict extremely well).

Tom Punks 7th November 2014 10:40 PM

AHS should have a debate committee and Zeke can be the judge.

adantatu2 7th November 2014 10:48 PM

The guys from Jpopsuki have a weird sense of humor(just look at their polls, XD), they can sound rude sometimes, but for me that's ok. I just ignore them.

TeamAyu2004 8th November 2014 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Punks (Post 3103192)
Ironically, some people don't know how to practice what they preach and ~let it go~.

there is a difference between someone being rude and condescending and letting it go and actually having a conversation with someone. I though I was having a conversation with some adults, I was clearly wrong. Now I will let it go because this has gone beyond a simple I thought they were being rude to both of you just acting like children.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke. (Post 3103205)
Usually people who don't like conflict just don't know how to handle situations properly or are unable to back-up their own beliefs and/or outlook. However, you did an amazing job! You brought up valid points and I believe your mentality was supported more-so than your opponents (this isn't anything personal against TeamAyu2004, I'm just trying to point out the fact that you handled the conflict extremely well).

I don't think any of the points are valid zeke. You can't bring in things about metally sick people in a conversion about someone just being a jackass. Everything the poster said had nothing to do with the actual topic (which the entire thread has digressed so its pointless anyways).

And since when is someone telling someone else to 'get over it' as being childish? That's the most grown up thing someone can say to someone else. And I could bring in more 'valid' points if I wanted to, but like I told tom punks, there is no point too it.

Tom Punks 8th November 2014 12:15 AM

We're acting like children? You think YOU'RE acting adult? Or that any of the things YOU said were mature? Chiharo was nothing but mature and civil with you, and you spent the entire so-called adult conversation calling her a baby and belittling her for not agreeing with you, when you were being hostile for no apparent reason the entire time.

Telling someone to "get over it" is NOT mature. It's also not remotely helpful by any stretch of the imagination. And none of this was even a big deal until you came in and started acting like everyone was throwing a tantrum over one little comment. If anything, you're the one who blew it out of proportion and made it into something it wasn't. lmao.

TeamAyu2004 8th November 2014 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Punks (Post 3103219)
We're acting like children? You think YOU'RE acting adult? Or that any of the things YOU said were mature? Chiharo was nothing but mature and civil with you, and you spent the entire so-called adult conversation calling her a baby and belittling her for not agreeing with you, when you were being hostile for no apparent reason the entire time.

Telling someone to "get over it" is NOT mature. It's also not remotely helpful by any stretch of the imagination. And none of this was even a big deal until you came in and started acting like everyone was throwing a tantrum over one little comment. If anything, you're the one who blew it out of proportion and made it into something it wasn't. lmao.

You are going to have to point out where I belittle someone, because I didn't. I said the poster was acting like a child by complaining about something they should not have been complaining about because it was pointless. When the poster continued to act like a child I called the poster out on it.
And yes, that is acting like an adult. Having a conversation is being an adult. When someone (the poster) didn't like what I had to say they went off on points that had nothing to do with the conversation.
You said:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Punks (Post 3103143)
Mrrrowww.

everything about what the two of you are saying and acting scream childish behavior. I find it odd that a group of people are aloud to agree on something but if someone else brings facts in or a different opinion they are automatically rude just because they don't agree with the others opinion.

This I have to say is not me being rude or mean but a fact on the way you are acting. It's childish and as such I will treat you so.
Nuff said.

Tom Punks 8th November 2014 03:27 AM

OK bro.

Chiharo 8th November 2014 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke. (Post 3103205)
Usually people who don't like conflict just don't know how to handle situations properly or are unable to back-up their own beliefs and/or outlook. However, you did an amazing job! You brought up valid points and I believe your mentality was supported more-so than your opponents (this isn't anything personal against TeamAyu2004, I'm just trying to point out the fact that you handled the conflict extremely well).

Thank you for this. I also want to apologize for going a bit overboard because I was quite emotional yesterday. This was very kind of you and it made me feel a lot better (I didn't really feel that my mentality was supported more because I wrongly read some of the stuff posted).

@Tom Punks

Yeah, I realized too late that you didn't mean me. I also took your "Mrrrowww" as trying to make fun of me (seeing as it was right after my post) which was weird seeing as you seemed to agree it's not right to be rude. Which is basically what at first made me think you were referring to me (I was quite baffled on TeamAyu2004's posts yesterdays and couldn't really think straight for a while). I think I shouldn't let people get to me this much, lol.

@TeamAyu2004

We are all for having a mature, adult discussion here. But do you really think you are going to achieve that by calling someone a baby and saying that they are "bitching" after they tell you their opinion? Let me remind you that calling someone a baby is extremely condescending and it empowers the person who says these things. You are basically saying "I am better than you". And shouldn't you be treating other people as equals to you? When do you think in real life people have gotten along well or even lead a normal discussion on something if one person calls the other a "baby"?

Also, the reason I mention mentally sick people is because you seem to be fond of telling people to "get over it" and seem to think it's very right to say. Try to look things up related to that saying. It's not as nearly mature as you seem to think it is.

There are far nicer, or even just neutral ways in saying what you mean without being condescending. I mean, you could even be nice which affects people in more positive ways and makes people think about what you said and actually agree with you.

Also, just claiming that you are the more mature one and everyone else is a child puts you in a very awkward position. It's like an intelligent person telling everyone how intelligent they are and showing it off constantly. There's something off about that, don't you think? I'll never say that you are a "child", because I don't even know you. Based on the posts you made I could make a lot of guesses about you, and none of them are positive. But I'm not going to point fingers at you just because of the few posts you made in this thread and just because I *think* that you are that way.

FIRSTKLAS 8th November 2014 10:18 AM

Great posts, Chiharo. :yes

They're very positive and constructive unlike what most of what usually gets posted here. :P

Maemi 8th November 2014 01:58 PM

So no freeleech this year too ? That sucks -.-

adantatu2 9th November 2014 01:44 AM

I want to download some DVDs :(

tsumekaze_ 9th November 2014 10:27 AM

I wrote on the JPS forum and got the same answer as here, mellowb hasn't logged in 10 months nor did SYSop so.... it appears that no freeleech this year too. I wonder why is it so. After the DDos thing mods and the founder were all so eager to run the forum, plus, after almost 5 years I just can't believe they would leave it like that in the hands of the users. The site is alive just because of the few mods taking care of it and of the users uploading stuff!

Zeke. 11th November 2014 07:20 PM

Ugh, I have never participated in free leech and since summer I have been deadest On keeping a closer eye so I don't miss the next opportunity. This is heartbreaking.

Chibi-Chan 11th November 2014 08:20 PM

Mh... Since you guys are so heartbroken that there probably won't be any freeleech this year, I would give away some bonus points to some of you guys. ;) I have a ratio of over 3 and some bonus points I don't need. So, if you write me a message and your username, I will send you a few points. But don't take my points if you have enough! I'm just offering this for people who have a very low ratio and would like to download some stuff without getting in trouble.

Maemi 11th November 2014 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tsumekaze_ (Post 3103456)
I wrote on the JPS forum and got the same answer as here, mellowb hasn't logged in 10 months nor did SYSop so.... it appears that no freeleech this year too. I wonder why is it so. After the DDos thing mods and the founder were all so eager to run the forum, plus, after almost 5 years I just can't believe they would leave it like that in the hands of the users. The site is alive just because of the few mods taking care of it and of the users uploading stuff!

They probably have some contact information/email, I guess someone should contact them and ask them to log in, at least just to allow the freeleech :eviltongu I have things I'd like to download but they will definitely kill my ratio :dead2


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