Ayu's trouble in Thailand
 

Source: Apple Daily (Hong Kong)

with translation by kawai (www.ahsforum.org)
please quote full URL for any reposts to other online medium.

According to Weekly Bunshun, Ayu was very uncooperative during her trip to thailand last year.
During her trip there as ambassador for Thailand's ruby produces, she was rude during her meeting with the queen, Ubol Ratana Mahidol. According to the laws there, she could have been persecuted immediately for her behaviors.

Interviews with staff on thailand's side and a staff in her recording label (edit:Avex) revealed that the Thailand government had spent 1.44 million Hongkong dollar in sponsoring her trip there, but received unreasonable reception from her.

Accusation #1: Ayu complained on why she has to go to places like this, and only agreed after her company's repeated explanation that it helps in her international career.

Accusation #2: When Ayu leaved Japan on november 26th, she refused to board the plane because of the time taken to check-in 1000 kg of luggage and there are others sitting beside her first class seat. In the end her favorite teddy bear took the seat beside her.

Accusation #3: Ayu specified that she wants to stay at hotel that can park helicopter, but she did not have intention to fly in helicopter. The relevant department arranged for a Thai dance group for a dance as a greeting to her, but she waved aside the performance.

Accusation #4: When she arrived at the military school for the award ceremony, (edit: should be a ceremony that declares her status as ambassador for Thailand's ruby produces.) she refused to attend the ceremony and stayed in the room. She was reportedly said that "You want me to kneel before the queen? No way!" and even left in a rush after telling them off by "I don't like it means I don't like it", injuring staff as a result.


Accusation #5: Ayu left quietly during the dinner after meeting the queen, and did not have a thai dance with her as planned. This had angered the royal family.

Ayu's company (edit:Avex) refused to comment on these accusations.


The Sun in Hong Kong also carried a similar report, with addition:

She requested to stay at Peninsula hotel, which has a helicopter pad.

Another request was to bring 200 minders with her, but this was rejected by the government.


[b]Added: these are news carried by Weekly Bunshun, with Hong Kong's media quoting their reports. please direct your flame to the right party :P

By the way, Ayu had responsed to these articles here

They are juz trying to increase their sales...these mercenary ppl...i saw a newspaper in HK which said Ayu was very cooperative. Some time back there were also news of ayu acting rudely in Hor shanghai(cant remember) I mean,have u guys ever heard of ayu acting like this in japan?these overseas media are juz jealous of her popularity dats all...dun forget she won the most influential asian artiste in MTV asia 2002

It's just tabloid junk. Exactly like what you'd see stateside. I'd just ignore it. Ayu is very grateful to her Japanese fans. There's no way she'd act like this, especially to a royal family.

don't EVER listen to the press especially all those bs..

wow....... wad a news!!! i thout it is real....... if it is real..... kinda upset ... cos how can ayu do this..... :( :(

i dont belivie on what that newspaper

Dont believe:thumbsup

my god that is all bull**** why post it in newspaper when it was sucha long time?!?!besides these newpapr companies want competition so they post bs like that. i am very angry at what they posted :curse
i say we bomb them :evillaugh

I really dunt know whether to believe this or not~~~
I hope this isnt true at all~~~ but after many incident that happan and reported in newspaper.....................
Ibut I still truely believe ayu!!!!~
damn those apples**t newspaper~!!

oh... that's really bad........

I dont beleive it.. its not Ayu. Its all crap! thats whats all over newpapers here in Canada...

:eek

i seriously dun bliv it !!! ayu dun seem to have this kinda attitude. damn tht paper !!!

poor Ayu...people really rip on her about the stupidest things, and its a chinese newspaper, they didnt even try and get any compliments or accusations from thailand at that...so how can you believe!!

I dunno, I think those stories are pretty hard to believe. Although it's possible that they are true, I certainly don't believe them. Whenever Ayu goes somewhere in Asia there is always a big crisis and something bad always supposedly happens to her. Those newspapers like to pubish so much crap about her. I really wish we could know the truth of what happened because I don't believe those newspapers. Apple Daily has a history of bashing Ayu so I don't believe anything they say. It's clear they have a grudge against her so I"m sure that anythign they say about her is biased and probably exagerated or totally not true.

hmmmm no comments on the newpaper..... hope it goes bankrupt soon.....

It's probably not true. If it is, then Ayu was probably tired and forced to do something she couldn't at that time....you know, when you're forced to do something when you're very tired you end up throwing your frustrations on innocent people so maybe that's what could have happened.

Yeah, I agree with Impact. If it were true, that's probably the butt of it. But these tabloids are typical. Anyone who is popular is going to be trashed by someone.

so just ignore it :P

Ayu doesn't seem to be that kind of mean person. I doubt its truth. I wonder what she has to say about all this......

It's prolly true. Ayu's no different then Britney Spears. They're both stuck up and pampered. Oh well.

You're using words from the dumbest magazine in the world - appledaily..Britney Spears came to Brazil once and played her songs on "playback" in a LIVE concert. She almost didn't open her mouth to sing. It was so ridiculous people almost asked for their money back. Ayumi is not stuck up cause she does a great work and she doesn't need to be a fake person in order to be famous and she REALLY sings on her concerts.

haha Are you sure that we're talking about the same Ayumi Hamasaki here? lol Ayu the same as Britney Spears, no way! The are two very different people. Ayu may have a lot of money so she can be pampered, but I don't believe that she would do this and be so disrespectful. Plus, the source of this news is a known publisher of crap. So although you are right because it's possible that it's true, I highly doubt it's entirely true.

By the way, welcome to AHS. :wave

What a mean thing to say about Ayu!! Are you really even a fan? Or did you just come here to bash her? Please don't post ugly comments about Ayu at this forum. This is an Ayu fan forum, not an Ayu bashing forum.

*shrugs* that's media for you.

Re: Ayu's trouble in Thailand
 

thank you for the translation kawai :D:D

im sure it's not all true, but did anyone else find this part as amusing as me:
:roflmao

Hey, stuffed animals have rights too. :D

I don't know. All the acquisitions sound mean and retarded.

Back to the real world, yeah. They do sound blown out of proportion. The behavior described sounds like something a five-year old would do.

burlywood courier small i dun believe a single thing they say about ayu tho.i know ayu wouldnt do that.the most unbelievable thing is when they said that ayu was rude to the queen.she wouldnt do that.those newspaper are talking craps after so long since ayu went to thailand only they post up these news about her,maybe part of it can be true but i dun believe what they say abt her that she was actually rude.LOVE~PEACE~:caa

Welcome to AHS demonic!!:D

Yeah, okay....

Err, I think you all completely ignored the disclaimer at the end of Kawai's post, Apple Daily was quoting Weekly Bunshun, a Japanese source.

Also, it's pretty obvious that bad press doesn't affect Ayumi's music sales or popularity, so what's the big deal? Everyone gets bad press and Ayumi certainly doesn't need anyone defending her since she's probably heard it all before. Becoming famous means taking the good and the bad, true or not.

Though many of you thinks that the new is false, but I find that the fact that it is in the newspapers means the event happened. I did see the same news on the newspaper, though it is of a shorter version. Instead of running away from the truth, we should learn to accept it.

Think about this, Ayu had always been someone who does as she pleases. There is definitely a reason why she acted the paper she did. And though newspaper report the truth, they seldom report the whole thing. That means something may have target her actions.

As for me, I kind of admire her attritude. The courage to do whatever she wants, to break the norms, no rule. And that's what you get from her songs, the fresh, new, never heard before feeling.

Well...
1) If Ayu was extremely tired and did take her frustration out on people, I still cannot bring myself to believe that she was disrespectful to royalty. I just can't see that happening.

2) How can Ayumi be compared to, of all people, Britney Spears. This is just stupid. As pointed out by other people here, Britney doesn't even sing at concerts where people PAY to see her PERFORM LIVE for them. That is disrespect to fans who , if it was not for them, she would not be famous. Britney is completely stuck up though as when her movie, corssroads, was released over here in the UK, she hardly even looked at her fans when moving from the car to the cinema. Now compare this to, say, Tom Cruise who once spent 2 hours outside the cinema with his fans, even talking to one persons mother on their mobile phone. THAT is dedication to fans.

3) Ayumi knows that if it was not for her fans, she would not be where she is today, and so in return for their support, she is willing to treat them with great respect and works towards pleasing them. Yep, that sounds extremely stuck up to me.

Well, sorry if I ranted, but I just cannot believe some of the stuff that i have read in this thread.

devilayu, Kawai updated his post to include that Japanese source. When he originally posted the info, that was not there. So I at least didn't see the addition until you pointed it out.

I dunno, I still think that the reports are exagerated. You have to have a lot of guts to disrespect a queen! I personally have trouble picturing Ayu do that. It's possible, but I find it hard to believe.

I still can't believe all that crap. It just doesn't sound right. Ayu doesn't give up on her fans in Japan, why would she go so far as to disrespect royalty in another country? I don't think I've ever seen as much fan dedication in any other artist. Does Britney Spears have a fan club wear she regularly sends messages? Did she ask her fans to help her write lyrics to one of her songs? No, since she doesn't even lift a finger to write any of her own stuff. Britney has been having a lot of trouble lately, I don't think she has what it takes to keep herself where she should be. She doesn't have that much dedication. Apparently, a lot of her recent performances have been terrible - she won't sing or her lipsyncing if off. Ayu so such a heart for her fans. Everything she does if for them.

Everyone associated with that paper should die for that article.

Besides, didn't Ayu donate several million yen to the queen to help with drug reform or something? And how about all those smiling pictures we saw? I seriously doubt the queen would pose with Ayu if she disrespected her.

I'm live in Thailand and I never heard that news at all

Well, I guess that settles it as fake news. Major disrespect to royalty would be news that spreads like wildfire, especially in the nation it took place in. Ah, it's probably the Chinese nativism taking over..

depend_ayu you made my DAY!!!!!! If you haven't heard any news about that, then we almost know for sure that it's fake! If something bad happened with Ayu in Thailand, then I'm sure the news would be all over Thailand. And since it's not, we can be assured that it's just tabloid crap! We don't know with 100% certainty, but we have a good idea about it. Thanks so much for telling us depend_ayu!

exactly. if depend_ayu haven't heard of the news, chances are the media in japan, and the "disclaimer from appledaily" are misleading. If ayu is serious about this matter, i think avex / herself could have got a lawyer and solve the "accusations" all together - well, too bad that the accusations are not that serious or else this lawsuit would definitely came effective and tells the media not to "make up stuff" ...

I feel so releaved after hearing that. I just know Ayumi would not be like that.

I know I'm a bit slow with this, but anyway -- Haven't we learned that Apple Daily just posts bad stuff about artists to get sales? They're exactly like a tabloid. One thing is said, and they morph the truth. The problem is free speech. There's too much. I say Ayu sues them for libel and defamation of character. Injuring staff? Ayu's a twig... but she's a cute one. She's like, 5'2 and 100 lbs. I'm almost positive that she can't injur anyone.

And if she was so rude, I'm pretty sure the queen would refuse to give her the ambassador label. As would the parliment...

actually i'm pretty sure that she would be in jail rite now if she actually did those disrespectful stuff

Haha Ayumi would probably go to jail or be punished if all that stuff was true !! The morale of this story? Apple Daily is horse crap. 'Nuff said :)

Hi everyone, I am new here... I saw these news over at some other forums...and I make enquires to my friends in Thailand, this is entirely not true! Her reply:

after the reserch...from many source...I believe that it's not true.All the people that met Ayumi said that she is very very friendly and kind...she let her fans take a photo and give them her signature and I spot lots of mistake in this news...
first Princess Ubolratt Mahidol is not a queen...our queen is Sirikit Mahidol...and princess Ubolratt left the royal family for very long time ago so the princess is just ordinary person.Anyway,princess Ubolratt is King's daughter so I think in any enviroment,everyone would pay a respect to her(Japan also has King too so I think it sounds weird that Ayu DISrepect a royal family)

>The relevant department arranged for a Thai dance group for a dance as a greeting to her, but she waved aside the performance.
-My friend went there and they all say it's not true...this also aired on TV too.

>She was reportedly said that "You want me to kneel before the queen? No way!"
-I'm sure no one ask her to do this...cos princess Ubolratt is an ordinary person and as for a foreigner...they don't have to do this...even to a King.

>Ayu left quietly during the dinner after meeting the queen
-My friend followed Ayumi everywhere...and this is not in her schedule...I mean when Ayumi was in Thailand,she didn't have a dinner after meeting princess Ubolratt
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I feel the need to disprove this, cuz I have met Ayu in person, and she has been really nice and cool. >_< I hate it when these tabloids make up such vicious story just to sell their magazines. I thank my friend Ine for checking things up for me. Ayu fans united! And down with the tabloids...>_<

Thank you very, very much depend_ayu and romi9 for disproving the tabloid lies.

Wecome to AHS romi9 :)

Thanks for the welcome nmskalmn. I plan to stay at AHS, always been reading news from here, and I finally registerd myself today. :)

yeah. There are always proof to these tabloids and here is the proof, romi's friend. People should ahve recognize by now that medias tries to gain popularity and sales by smearing the stories that they got / created to an extend that is too over-doing.

Thanks for your reply romi and depend_ayu, much appreciated.

Ok! I can't beleive you could say ayu is stuck up!!!! Ayu is so UNstuckup. Brittney spears is SEX SEX SEX. Ayu is NICE CUTE ORIGNINAL. Ayumi is one of the few artists that says she loves her fans and MEANS IT!!! Ayumi singing at her concerts is no big deal. (well it is but...) Ayumi might bring a teddy bear with her though.. Ayumi has already aknowledged it false and APOLOGISED for it's lies coming out!!!!! I don't think you belong on this forum if you think ayumi is stuck up. This forum tends to like ayu more as a PERSON then as a SINGER so please leave if you don't like ayumi, or know what you're talking about....
Grr.....

i've read like a same article on ayu on both appledaily and other chinese newspaper..and you can see just how biased appledaily is......i dun wanna comment on the truthfulness..'cus i really ain't there to know the truth...but appledaily is absolutely a paper without the necessarily attitude as a newspaper...itz sooo biased and written by dumbheads-like language and attitude

Thank you, Romi9 for taking the time to prove the tabloids wrong. How incredibly goofy they are, huh? So many mistakes!

Thanks so much romi9!!!! That is very nice to hear. And welcome to AHS :wave We really appreciate you posting that info!!!! Those damn Chinese dabloids

everyone knows how polite japanese people are.......

Ummm you guys should really stop posting news like this. I know its your duty to report but this is piece of news is as good as a rotting apple core. People might get the wrong idea.

Yeah, I kinda agree with hiro. It's really pointless to post tabloid news, since we always no that it is trash. If it comes from a tabloid, it should be labeled "rumor" or not posted at all.

I'll add "Rumor" to the title, because Apple Daily is crap, haha. :P

XD all these rumours in apple dialy XD they should call it Crap Dialy :roflmao :laugh

hahahaha that's true. 'cause it's your daily fix of crap. Why bother with the truth when you can make stuff up about people? :P

XD yuppers!

We must flush this thread down the drain!

It's not pointless. I have to thank kawai for posting that. We can't only show the good side of things just because we want to. If this went without notice some people would probably read this in another place and keep wondering if Ayu really did that or not. Having a discussion is really important and that really showed how strong Ayu is. Plus this matter is important for Ayu herself since it directly affects her. kawai really did a good job in posting this and it should remain like that.

Well it's a rumour and the person who first posted didnt really present it as a rumour. People might take it as a fact and they might get the wrong idea. It is the right thing to post news, good or bad, but this isnt even news. If you asked for todays current events would you want me giving you a tabloid like Apple Daily? As someoen said earlier we should put "Rumour" in front of post.

yeah hiro you're right. but i don't think many reporters nowadays would do an ethics check before they post something ... kinda sad isn't it?

I still believe what I read in the newspaper. About retraction, didn't see it.

I didn't said that I believe the apple news, just that some actions she did may have leave a bad impression. She might not know it while comitting it. As a Singapore I have the opportunity to learn before multi-racialism, japanese seems to be a group that doesn't get out much.

As for breaking very single rule, she only needs to break 1 for others to blow it big.

Perhap I have seen more thing in the world that I am able to see things from a different point of view.

For what we know, she may have angered the queen without knowing it and apologised for it(which the news may conveniently leave out). Telling yourself she never make mistake or she knows everything is just fooling yourself.

Crap it may be but still some truth within.

I don´t believe that newspaper...Yu can´t that way...

Ayu can´t act like this!!That newspaper is lying or exagerating all this mess!!!Blame on it with all of your rage....It´s all their fault...Their sales shouldn´t be very good and it´s sure that found in Ayu a target to get richer with no manner and scrupuls!It´s a shame....
Don´t believe that news...

Well it depends what news company theyre working from. Someone from TIME magazine would do this. Dont worry, there are still good journalists out there.

Ok, my source says that ayu refused to kneel before the princess of Thailand, which triggers her anger.

Yeah, so why didn't she was thrown behind bars? As you can see this article is really, really fake.

i say we complain and make them name their newspaper Crap Daily- Your Daily Source of Crap

i think that is true... luckily she is ayumi or else she might be jailed for not kneeling in front of the princess as this is the custom there.... i feel that ayu should follow the custom...

I live in Thailand and never heard of this news before. If this news were true, then there should have been a big headline on Thai newspapers or some magazines...also, people would have said something about it. I only hear good things 'bout her over here, so, this news is hard to believe.

Yea, these newspapers are publishers of crap. I really don't care what they say anymore 'cause they lie all the time. Ayu won't be brought down by clowns like them. No worries. :)

hehe i never watch the news or read newspapers, just look at pics XD besides everything in newspaper are always exaggerated!

It's in The Japan Times.......
 

Read it.......

Feb 2 news
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/...20030202tc.htm


argh......trouble.....

:OMG Oh Oh ...so does this really happened ?
Very embarrassing ... and in Japan Times ..
We will probably never know the true story. The journalist may have copied the previous basher article ..It doesn't looks real for me.
:loony

How rude of her!! I hope this isn't true....I mean the japanese people now a lot about respect and stuff so she should understand that in other countries they have things like that too.

Let's say it is true but so what. She is a human just like us. Human is no God. She is still a young person and young person like us alway make mistake right? May be she was having a bad mood or something which is bothering her at that monment. Human always has mistakes, temper, and stress. A person will easily been stressed out if he or she is been forced to do something. I don't think it is a big matter at all. Let's not taking too much time talking about rather it is true or not. We should always think positive.

who cares...she doesnt have to like everything she has to do...:wave

That's so weird. Why the hell would overseas news sources publish this when the people in Thailand have no knowledge of these events. It doesn't make any sense. So I have no idea what story to believe.

Maybe she was in a bad mood but that doesn't give her the right too act rude and disrespect people.....It's not their fault that something made her angry and If she didn't want too go too Thailand why did she even go there in the first place....But then again all this may be a rumour.

Whoa... after reading that, it makes Ayu look like she's stuck up...

"Just an over-pampered kid in a bad mood, you might say. True -- but Shukan Bunshun wonders if Hamasaki realizes how close she came to getting herself arrested."

Arrested?? Wow... never thought I'd here Hamasaki and arrested in the same sentence... let's just hope that this is all false...

Isn't that a page from Times for false gossips?...I found this written there: "Tokyo Confidential surveys popular vernacular magazines -- often "salacious, libelous and utterly unreliable" -- to discover what the Japanese are "really thinking."
The name of the page is TOKYO CONFIDENTIALS. I might not be understanding well but it says "unreliable" so it should be unreliable LOL :laugh :roflmao :laugh
People please do not believe this false info. People from Thai already confirmed it was not true. How can something so terrible happen in one's country and the people who live there do not know? I really think everyone should stop and think for a while. Even if Times say it's true, as long as people who live in Thailand says it was not true I will still think it WAS NOT TRUE!!!!

LOL I didn't even waste my time reading the same crap re-written by another person. Looks like a lie told many times can really become the truth...at least it does work sometimes ahahhahaha:laugh :roflmao :laugh

Yes , you are all right Chibinina4 :thumbsup

I'm so sick of hearing this. Maybe she did something wrong, and it totally got out of hand. And why did they make a big deal about taking pictures of the princess. Did the princess not pose with Ayu for the pictures?

I think this article is even more false than the other one, because it added stuff that we know is not true.

This is not true. If you go to that site for info, dont anymore. Someone from Thailand has already confirmed that it is not true, just as ImpactBreaker says. It's not true.

This is the exact same article from Apple Daily..

Yes, this article in the Japan Times is simply an english translation of the Weekly Bunshan story that Apple Daily referenced.

Let me point out the disclaimer again:

This Weekly Bunshan is a tabloid. I wouldn't believe anything printed in such a publication.

PS: I'm merging this thread with the other one about the Thailand rumors.

I certainly hope none of its true. But we really dont know the real ayumi. I mean of course she says this in her songs and that and we hook on to her every word and think she is a complete goddess. But we will never know the real ayu unless we actually meet her, talk to her, and hang out with her. Until then i guess we just have to go and follow what we believe she truley is.

It hold no truth. They don't even have the sources to back it up.

And I mean quotes from people.

This article is based on the same source as the Apple (Crap) daily..so its not surprisng at all. I am just shocked that The Japan Times do no do thier own research before deciding on the material to use? This is the same person who wrote a crappy piece on Hikki when she got married last Sept. >_< Got all the facts wrong too, so I would say not to take into it too much. I still stand my friends (in thailand) ' testimonies that these are not entirely the truth. Just my 0.02.

enough... can we suspend this thread ???