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Hamasaki-Ayumi-Ron "The Theory Of Ayumi Hamasaki"
I read someone's post about recommending that Ayu take a break or something as she's been working so hard lately.. It inspired me to start this thread.. Can I just say, with no disrespect to anyone on ahs, but some of the things I want to discuss may offend some of the members here, especially the younger ones. I’m not actively trying to cause problems or anything like that, but this is a forum, and I just want to express my ideas. I’d therefore appreciate it if a certain level of maturity could be upheld or whatever.
Has it ever crossed any of your minds that Ayu is taking a load of drugs in her day-to-day life? She has literally never stopped working since she released “poker face”.. She’s released 29 singles, 7 albums, 18 remix singles, 13 remix albums, 15 DVDs, 11 vhs, over 40 vinyl, acted as spokesperson for and endorsing countless products, launched her own fashion range, done 4 nationwide tours, and is now about to embark on yet another one… She works herself to death, I think it’s quite surprising that she hasn’t had a public nervous breakdown or something. Which leads me to believe she’s taking a hell of a lot of drugs.. Ayu must be on speed or something during the day, running around doing promotional stuff for Morinaga or Tu-Ka, getting her photos taken then choosing herself the ones she wishes to use, then shooting off (and up?) to do a Visée CM, followed by whatever else. She’s been buzzing all day, then ushered into some hotel room where a vaporiser’s waiting for her.. She gets into bed and takes a massive toke on some white widow, which knocks her out for a few hours, the next thing she knows it she’s being woken up, someone hands her a 10,000yen note and helps her snort some pink doves to get the next day started. She blatantly smokes weed, releasing a range of MTRL clothing with the cannabis leaf emblazoned across it, and wasn’t she pictured with a joint in her hand? Personally I wouldn’t be surprised if she smokes crack or has to shoot up before she performs at her concerts and stuff… And I hadn’t really thought about it ‘til the other day, but I was discussing with a fellow member here about how everyone always complains about how Avex is the tyrant who forces Ayu to release so many products and things.. What if it’s the other way around? Ayu is basically Avex, so what if it’s really her, constantly making them churn out remix albums and re-released singles, just so she can pay for her crack habbit.. She didn’t grow up with a father figure in her life, maybe she just walked all over her mother and has had her own way since she was a child. She hasn’t really had a normal childhood either, starring in doramas and movies at a young age, and even doing all that “NOTHING FROM NOTHING” stuff, now it’s all ended up where she can’t start her day without gumming some base… I appreciate that not everyone here will view what I have to say with an open mind. The very mention of the word drugs will no doubt get the majority of you all to start laying into me or whatever. And I'm not trying to bring her down or anything like that, I'm actually a massive fan, but nothing like this has ever really been brought up before, so I’d be interested to see how fellow Ayu fans feel about this pressing issue… :yingyang |
Firstly, I respect your bravery for posting something like this as i'm almost certain that there may be some form of dispute over this. but i'm going to look at this in a mature way.
Right, well I'm going to make my opinion clear straight away. This is not just because Ayu is my favourite singer, but i honestly don't think that Ayu takes any illegal drugs. None at all. It's possible that she may take something that's legal to help her keep going and stuff though. I can see where you get your ideas though as Ayu has barely stopped working since her debut, yet she manages to keep on top of all of this. However, I'm not one of the "Evil tyrant Avex" people, but neither do I think that Ayu is the one who's forcing all of this. In reference to your idea of Ayu walking all over her mom, I have to disagree again. After reading the 'Rocking on Japan' interview, you may think differently aswell, that's if you haven't already read the translation. Well anyway, I'm not here to argue, so please count my opinion as valid. Arigato. |
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i like ur style. about what she's currently doing, if they are compared to what u was saying, they sounds real... but i don't thiink she takes drugs because my mom works all day long no holiday, no relaxing, non stop but she don't even smokes. what ever ayu is, what ever ayu did, what ever ayu takes, i'll forever be her fan. |
hmmmm I dont think that ayu is taking any drugs! I just cant belivie that she will take any drug in the future or now
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No i don't think she takes anything illegal.
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don't worry it's only a theory...
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Re: Hamasaki-Ayumi-Ron "The Theory Of Ayumi Hamasaki"
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Hi ElmStreet and welcome to AHS. You must've known that you'd get some feedback on this post, and although you may have not meant it to sound mean, to me, I'm kind of shocked at reading this from someone who says he's a fan. Now I won't go "all out" if that's what you're thinking, but to say that she takes drugs and "...re-released singles, just so she can pay for her crack habbit.. " sounds quite rude to me. Although yo did state "Thory" as the title here, it seems so untrue to me. Of course, whenever people do drugs and whatnot, the signs can be noticable, such as restlessness, a worn-down or tired look, bouts of anger, and other related symptoms. As of yet, I haven't seen Ayumi show any of these, and contrary to the idea that Ayu attacked someone in China (which is also a rumor), Ayu seems to be a pretty peaceful person. Sure... she's beein doing tour after tour, releasing more CDs than many American artists combined, and even has her own talk show, but until I see Ayu staggering at a live concert, swearing at the audience, or anything else, I'll have to disapprove your idea. I know everyone is entitled to their opinions, and I'm not saying "you're wrong! case closed!", but without solid facts of "drugs" found at Ayu's place or any physical signs, this topic will remain just that.. a theory. |
hmmmm i think when it comes to her album/single/remix releases, i really dont think she has to put all that much work into as, i mean she does right the songs and may help to produce or whatnot, but i think remixes are entirely done w/out her ^^; and its possible bulmasman said that she takes legal drugs, but i think ayu has a lil control in her life....i mean she wouldnt have started a tv show right?why bother buying a home if your not going to live in it? how is it possible to keep a relationship like she has (and planning to get married) if she is so so busy? im sure we are just vewing her throught the public eyes of the media, and never get to see the times she DOES relax. I personally think she likes to keep busy, she has a goal, and she is working hard till her timing is up in the industry--i think she chose the life she wanted...everything she does, she knows how it will effect herself ^^;......hmmmmm
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if she was taking all those drugs it would have taken a toll on her looks and she wouldn't look as great as she looks now.
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Don't you think it's possible that Ayu could just be running on her own steam for this? I don't want to believe that Ayu is taking drugs. If she were to take even half of what you said, she probably would have suffered some sort of heart attack or defect or serious weight loss (she only weighs 100 lbs, after all. I seriously doubt her small frame could take so much of that crap for so long). And she also probably would have gone through some serious state of depression, which her songs would have reflected.
As for the marijuana clothing, someone stated that that is just a fashion icon in Japan, as it is in the US. It doesn't mean that Ayu smokes it. Ayu is a trend setter - she follows the fashion code rule, so naturally she would incorporate styles that are currently popular. As for her releases, granted they are amazing. But as Ayu has stated herself, she's "a product" and a very popular one. Avex has and will continue to milk her for everything she's worth, until she's completely lost her popularity. It makes me wonder how she does it, too, but I've never considered drugs. I just can't imagine it. Illegal drugs eat up a person, inside and out. There's no way Ayu could look as beautiful and calm at her concerts if she was constantly getting high. I won't believe it until I see some proof, so I don't consider it. It's an interesting topic to broach, however, I feel that your portrayal of how she gets through the day is really harsh. |
You can believe this crap if you want, but this it is nuts.
You are making HUGE assumptions without enough facts. Ayu releases many albums, so the obvious assumption is that she's a psycho crack addict? That's RIDICULOUS! That's the craziest thing I've ever heard! You don't have any facts to back this up. There is cannabis leaf on a MTRLG shirt, so that automatically means that is Ayu smokes pot? NO! I'm sure she is not the only person who designs clothes for MTRLG, and the Japanese put all kinds of crazy stuff on T-Shirt just because it's "cool." For example, they'll put English phrases on stuff even if they don't understand what it means. And many times they'll put on English that says very terrible things or it's totally incorrect grammar. They do this 'cause English is "cool." You cannot say that Ayu smokes pot for that reason. That's jumping to conclusions. Have you ever heard of caffeine? There are ways to get energy without being a crazed drug addict. These assumptions are completely ridiculous. Believe them if you like, but this is totally bashing Ayu. I don't care if you are a fan or not, this is disrespectful! Hmmmmmmmm your screen name is ElmStreet, so based on that information I can assume that you are missing a toe on your left foot and you have a long lost cousin hidden in the center of the Earth. What other random things can I fabricate based on this tiny piece of information? I bet I can make a whole lot of fake accusations from very little facts if I tried! |
Um... I don't think you know enough about drugs to even write that....
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Ayu wouldn't be able to do so much and be so successful if she was taking drugs.
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Welcome to the forum ElmStreet!
Anyways, I don't think she would be taking drugs or anything of that nature. Don't you think that by now, people would be able to see the effects of the drugs on her, just the look in her eyes would be enough to tell. I'm pretty sure makeup can't hide that type of thing. Started off the posting with a bang I see. |
hahahhahahhahahahah :laugh ahahhahahhah That's so true! What a way to make an entrance! hehehe ;)
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Sorry, but from my point of view, saying that Ayu smokes weed and crack is as unfounded as saying that Ayu has aids and is pregnant with an alien baby.
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umm mr. elmstreet ,dat stuph u said is jus wrong and a TRUE fan would defend Ayu, instead ob jus sayin all dat crap bout her ... it is jus WRONG !!! meib u should think it ovah. it is ok ib u haff a BIG imagination, but sumtimes wen things go off da edge it is jus OFF DA EDGE !!!
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Elmstreet, are you on drugs? Thats my opinion right there. If Ayumi was on drugs, I think SOMEONE would notice in her 24/7 schedule that you produced above. Yes, she is constantly working, pushing herself around. What makes you think she has time to do drugs, get any, or do them in privacy? Get real, if she did drugs, MANY people would know. AND, the chinese papers would've said something by now. I rest my case.
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Yeah... don blif ayu did illegal stufff
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Very Interesting stuff you wrote man. Well, no one knows for sure what ayu does... Btw, Welcome to AHS!
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It would appear that ElmStreet had only one thing to say. He hasn't bothered to reply to his own topic.
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This is just silly. XD Marijuana would NOT make her work harder. XD
"We all know that marijuana is a drug enhancement that can help you to lose a race against twenty million other runners who are all dead." - Eddie Izzard XD XD I really don't think you know enough about drugs at all. Ayu's just ambitious, works all day every day (you can get alot done in 8-10 hours if you try!), and drinks alot of coffee. There ya go. :P |
she's x-tremely rich...
if she wish to take drugs why not taking cocaine? that should've been better right? think again about ur theory... |
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Heroin is the drug with the funniest history. It was first used as anti-coughing syrup and was normally sold to people as medicine. They sooner got to know it's "good" effects for stress. After some time they discovered the drug was actually very potent, had lots of side effects and would get people addicted in no time lol. The heroin effects against cough is really true though so they made an simillar not as addictive and only for anti-coughing use. Some heavy drugs are also used as anesthaesics in hospitals. Morphine is a extremely addictive drugs and it's the best medicine to stop the worst pain. It's highly used in hospital specially for cancer treatment for people who suffer terrible pains. Funny history is that a drug addicted foreigner came to my city once and went to the hospital saying he had terrible pains. They shot him with Morphine and he got better. he would always get better, go home and get worse again. So the hospital staff decided to give him a placebo and HE FELT BETTER hahahahahah So they stopped treating him with morphine. Coke (Coca-Cola) had cocaine in its first formula and was sold as medicine. They later exchanged it for caffeine. It's still very addictive hahahah!!!:laugh :roflmao :laugh |
lol impact, always the dependable one on history info
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I believe on Ayu. She won't do such things.
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ayu never takes drugs, i beleive her...
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"It would appear that ElmStreet had only one thing to say. He hasn't bothered to reply to his own topic"
...I didn't realise it was expected of me to reply to every single post I got back, I was merely waiting to see other people's reactions & responses. |
ok...erm...right...ppl who take cracks will look that good...AS IF!!
there r more effects from drugs other than boosting someone on energy...ppl who take drugs can easily be spotted as in how they'll look cos drugs can make u go on n on but the body will still be tired n it will be visible... n don't be so sure that's what Ayu does all the time...u don't know her schedule...nobody does except for her crew n herself... i believe there is enough time in between her traveling around n doing other things for her to get enough rest to continue going on like this...she can even take a nap when they apply make-up on her...which normally last 2-4 hours.. so don't be so sure cos your facts r not strong enough for u to label Ayu as a crack pot.. |
and she would never walkover her mum, cause i read in an interview that the most person she admires was * HER MOM * smoking weed that makes me laugh, i dont think she would do that shes got tonnes of younger fans in japan and most parts of the world, if she was seen with that that would knock her image a bit..
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ayu like to work hard because she love it and she is very hardworking girl. She also wants her fans happy too
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Yeah, I know a few people that smoke marijuana, and every single one of them tell me that it makes them sleepy when they smoker it. So saying that Ayu smokes it and it makes her work harder is more than a little out there.
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I happen to know someone that smokes weed, and he says it makes you eat a lot.
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It's obvious that this is one of those threads to get the forum roused up. All of the main points have been stated so I'll keep this one short.
1. My belated welcome to AHS. 2. EVIDENCE: Just because someone is energetic doesn't mean they're on drugs. You're jumping the gun extremely far by creating a far-fetched reason for Ayu having energy to meet the demands of advertisers and Avex. It's possible that Ayu herself has that type of energy or she has a high caffeine intake level. But why does it matter? It's not abnormal for someone to be in 50 places at once doing many things for people. 3. Your description of an average Ayu day completely negates your self-accusation of being a fan. Being a so-called fan of someone doesn't result in flaming of their lifestyles or false-lifestyle as you've made Ayu's to be. A fan supports his idol, not criticize and falsify her. |
ayu on drugs?!?!? I seriously doubt it
oya welcome to the forum. :) |
first of all, she is busy but itz not impossible, consider that many popular like her works 24-7 like they have no time to sit down, consider also that many important or wealthy ppl in the work, those that are as rich as ayu, works like a dog
itz not a must to take drugs to be able to do wat she does however i do believe therez the possibility that she smoke 'cus of her past, she grew up in kinda a lonely lost world, at one point, she has no job, no school, just playin in the mall everyday, i'm not sterotyping but itz easier for you to meet street kids and get into bad habits...but itz just a theory..might not be true |
Ayu is very energitic when she performs. I was looking a site earlier with screen shots of her videos and live performances, and it looks like she strives off of the audience's cheering and what so ever.
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How could she work hard if she smokes marijuana? I know people who smoke it and they are anything but hard working. Lazy bums to more precise. There is no way to know for sure but I honestly don't think she uses drugs. She might use herbs like ginseng or something of that nature. But if she was using cocaine or methamphetamines for that length of time, it surely would have taken a toll on her appearance by now. Not to mention they would have taken such a toll on her mental health that she would not be able to focus on so many things at once. And the idea of her using crack is just ridiculous.
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hmm.. i dunno.. no one knows what ayu does.. we're just too far from ayu
a picture showing ayu holding weed doesn't mean ayu smokes weed.. on the contrary.. no one can assure if she doesn't smoke weed except if she clearly state that she doesn't smoke weed... it's just a matter of opinions... welcome to ahs elmstreet ^^ about ayu's appearances.. no doubt that she looked much much more aged than she should be, compare her present appearance with the one on the dome tour, a lot more aged ayu, especially when you see the RAINBOW PV, the real music video version is much better than the 22mb version floating around, it's on mtv everyday, even so, ayu lookes soooo old, i'm talking about the close up view, even the rainbow-colored ayu looks old, with exception the white one, but the ratio is only about 10 : 90... if someone who's not a fan of ayu saw that PV, he/ she wouldn't have guessed that ayu is just 24..there'a a lot different from ayu shots in free & easy to voyage... even much more differences to Real me.. that is the first PV where she looked so old.. i dunno maybe she's just too skinny these days, for a better view, check out Ayu Ready 11.. although in my humble opinion.. she looks old in all of ayu ready.. only a year have passed since dome tour 2001 (since ayu ready was started in 2002)... i really really hate to admit this, i dunno what you guys think, but this is just an opinion, i'm a fan, i want her to look beautiful always, i want to show her to my friends and make them see how beautiful she is... but i can't do that with the recent pics of her the only thing that comes to my mind if these kind of topic appears is that she wouldn't have time to smoke weed, and her voice is getting better, this is one fact i got from the ayu ready performances... lot better than before... no offense to anyone and i don't want to be offended thanx |
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They haven't screwed up Ayu's brain! Whether or not Avex pushes Ayu to release lots of singles (which they don't do anymore, if you've noticed) or whatnot, that doesn't mean that Ayu shoots up to get through the day. If Ayu was really taking all that you have stated, her appearance would reflect it. I rest my case.
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Are you really an Ayu fan? Because fans support their artists. They don't try to find out what kind of drugs they are taking on the side or whatever.
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err... come on..
no one can prove anything elmstreet has his points and biscuitgirl has her faith in ayu.. nine can be proven right or wrong |
http://www.sekai.lunarpages.com/pics...3_20030312.jpg
This image alarms me, Ayu really doesn't look that good at all. I think she does indeed look like she's on something, contrary to everyone's belief around here. |
OMG! Ayu doesn't look like on drugs in that pic! I think she looks beautiful there! That's so mean!
If you are a true fan, then welcome to the forum! |
Biscuitgirl, Japanese girls tend to be very light, between 88-105 (or more, depends) because of their diets. Ya know.. sushi, rawfish.. so on and so on..
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This quote from you has just really really pi$$ed me off now aswell. Man, I can almost just about tolerate some of the extremely stupid crap that you've been spouting about Ayu, but then stating that you're probably a bigger Ayu fan than most of the initiates here is just going too far. If you are such an big and mighty bloody fan of Ayu, why do you seem to be taking pleasure in angering, and especially in my case, upsetting the initiates here that turn to Ayu for more than just her music. I myself actually rely on Ayu as a person aswell as she symbolises everything good in my life. If it wasn't for Ayu and her music, I would probably be on drugs my self and just wasting my life like some of the bums that live near me. What can i say, Ayu is my life. I relied on Ayu to get me through one of the roughest times of my life in the last 5 years, so don't go telling me, or anyone else here that they're not true fans. I think you should think a lot more about what you say, cos if you plan to stay at this forum, it's best not to offend everyone in your first ever topic. I mean, come on man, are you insane or something. I have no problem With you being here, and I still respect you for raising this subject as it did take guts, but I feel that you should offer up some kind of apology to the people here that you've offended. Also, if you're gonna raise that topic of me not commenting on your "description" of Ayu's day, don't bother. I felt it was so unreasonably stupid that it didn't really deserve much notification. P.S. I think Ayu looks beautiful in that picture aswell. :D Drugs my a$$ |
If ayu does drugs or not, I still love her! If I was to have the news that she does drugs I would be shocked somehow but I would still like her songs. If she doesn't do, even better. I know Elmstreet's offended a lot of people here not only by showing his/her theory that many disapproved but by stating that opinion about being a true fan. but he/she also was attacked in my opinion. What if he/she's a true fan but he/she has this opinion about Ayu even though it does seem shocking for most? he/she was accused of not being a fan and for bashing in a lot of posts. If you don't agree with his/her opinion do like most are doing and reply you don't think so because of this and that, but try not to take the discussion to a personal side please. (I'm saying that for both sides) :thumbsup PEACE!!!!:)
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I think ElmStreet is doing this to get us rowdied up. He's posting these rediculous theories on purpose to get our attention and make us shocked.
From now on I'm ignoring him. He wants us to get our panties in a wad. He's doing it on purpose. |
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But seriously, I'm sure Elm's just trying to get people talking like Grant said. You yourself said it was just a theory, yet you obviously believe that she really does take drugs! So like most people here, I'll let you believe what you will and wait til you prove to us that Ayu does take drugs... something which the rest of us know isn't true. |
ElmStreet, I've only seen you for like two days, and already dislike you. How can you make up such a ridiculous theory and have no evidence to back it up? Anyone can write a sad song. Anyone can write a happy song. Does that mean they are on drugs? No. If I didn't know better, your just another Ayu basher. What fan would make up such balderdash about Ayumi? I think most of us know her very well from her interviews, and not once did she mention ANYTHING about drugs. Maybe she drinks coffee a lot. Ever think about that? Pay off the people around her? Please, that never works, someone always has a loud mouth, paid or not. Say what you want about her, but I'm not going to believe that you until you get some LEGIT proof. Until then, your comments are nothing more than horse crap.
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I'm not really sure if lyrics to a song can tell you if one is taking drugs..... I'll give you credit Elmstreet, your very passionate about your beliefs there. Oddly enough, everybody else is just as pasionate about their own.
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Ok this Has gone way far. This theory is Full of B.S.!
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This is all stupid. To come to a forum to bash Ayu (which you really are doing) just to arouse attention is frowned upon and sooner or later you'll realize that. I'm completely on bulmasman's side here by saying how you're already making yourself disliked not only by your disgraceful accusations to Ayu and your self-appointance as being "a bigger fan than most of the initiates here, who follow her mindlessly without any real passion." What gave you the mindset to say such crap when you haven't done a thing to get to know the initiates here? You come to our forum, bash Ayu in one of the sickest ways possible, then describe yourself as the king of Ayu fans. King of Ayu-fan drug addicts is more like it.
Admit it, you have no basis and no proof whatsoever that Ayu is and will ever be a drug addict. Obviously you know nothing about Japanese fashion trends and society in general. "Oooh, she wears makeup. She's a drug addict." Damn it, ALL CELEBRITIES WEAR MAKEUP! Even I wear makeup! That gives you absolutely no right to accuse anyone of that nature to be on drugs. Are you perhaps a drug addict yourself? If you had any idea of what drugs actually do to you, then this thread would have never happened. Either way, you'd have no way to accuse Ayu of taking drugs. THE PROOF IS NOT THERE AND WILL NEVER BE THERE. Ayu is purely an entertainer who rouses her energy from the love of her job and the cheers of her fans. Whenever she can't meet her obligations she quits, not continuing to further push herself for something she simply cannot do. Go ahead and continue considering yourself as a "higher fan" than all of us here because your actions prove otherwise. It's obvious that everyone here knows that everything you say is untrue and will never be true since Ayu has no reason to result to drugs as her energy source. If she did take drugs going back to her LOVEppears days, chances are she'd be dead by now or lose her singing ability which definately isn't apparent at all. If you think Ayu is the embodiment of a drug addict, take a look at Dir en Grey. I guarantee you'll think differently. Period. |
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ElmStreet, If you are a true ayu fan, then why do you doubt ayu for her actions and physical appearance? I dont think judging a person by thier looks or what they do means they take drugs or whatever. That is just so wrong...
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Maybe she just has quite a bit more stamina then most people.I can stay up for two days at the least without sleep and it doesn't bother me too terribly much.Everyone can do things faster or slower than some people.Maybe Ayu just wants to keep her position as the queen of pop...I don't know and I think that none of us ever will be sure...
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Ayu is an incredibly special person and that is why she is adored by so many. She has a lot of energy and is incredibly gifted. That's the way it works.
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Yo!
Somehow or rather, I strongly believe Ayu does not take drugs. I mean yea, maybe medicines but not illegal performance-enhancing drugs. I don't blame u for having such thoughts since few people or singers out there can handle pressure n work so well like Ayu. Being someone who knows money is important since childhood, Ayu won't waste a single cent on illegal drugs even when she's now rich. |
if she was taking drugs u would notice... news gets around fast now adays
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your so called theory huh??seems like u already made up your mind about Ayu being on drugs n standing firm to what u believe..
i bet u r on drugs yourself...n u r trying to make us believe Ayu is on drugs so that u can be accepted into OUR community... i admire u for your bravery to post such thread n comments..but i think u r retarded cos this so called "theory" of yours ain't a theory itself...the way u replied biscuitgirl...u r already a believer in this Ayu taking drugs ****... do ya think Ayu can actually shut so many ppl out from this secret habit of her's??do u think she can actually shut the ppl up with just her money??i can tell u that whatever Ayu pays them,the press can pay much more for news like this... oh yeah..on the side note...i don't like u.. go fly a kite... |
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As for the articles, do you really think she is going to mention in interviews that she uses drugs? No-one would be foolish enough to do that. |
Okay, you don't have to take drugs to be sad, you know. Depression and down times are a natural part of life. Besides, the "Never Ever" and "Endless Sorrow" period was almost 2 years ago, and Ayu's songs haven't been that sad in quite sometime. She even stated that the "Rainbow" songs reflect a happy time in her life. Have you bothered to watch any of Ayu's latest concerts? She looks really healthy and happy there!
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Still, you have to have arguments based on reasonable facts! You have to have something to base a theory on! You have no reasonable evidence to back up these claims/theories.
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I'm guessin that our dear Elm has not read some of Ayu's quotes.She said that she tries to be true to herself in her songs, if she is down that it will be a dark song and if she is happy than it will be a happy song.Maybe when she wrote Endless Sorrow her grandmother died, if you have read the "Rockin' on Japan" you would understand that Ayu's grandmother was the person she was usually with and was very close to her.Like every one is saying.Do you have information, solid information that you can base this theory on?
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If he did do drugs, he would know that she couldn't be taking those all at once without everyone knowing, without her looking dead, and hell without her probably being dead.
We all know that Ayu doesn't do drugs, he wants to believe that let him. Obviously he has some outlandish remark for whatever you say. It's kinda funny this is his first topic here, isnt' it? My point, don't feed him. We aren't going to agree with him and he isn't going to agree with us. Ashley |
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I didn't say that you said you were a bigger fan than me, I just stated that you don't have the right to call anyone here at AHS not a true fan of Ayumi Hamasaki. If we weren't true fans, why would we spend our time here. Answer that one if you're not too busy sparking up another draw. Also, just for the record, Shakira has been a heroine addict for the last 5 years. Hey, i'm now blatantly one of the biggest Shakira fans here at AHS as i'm slaging her off. That's basically what your doing. Also, you wanted to keep a level of maturity here in this topic, am I right? well then, STOP ACTING LIKE A FREAKIN' KID YOURSELF. Last time I checked, having an answer for everything, (especially crap answers which you so obviously like to give us), is classed as immaturity, meaning you have to have everything your own way. Well, if you can this of another crap answer for this post, go right ahead, i'm looking for an easy way to blow 3 or 4 minutes writing a reply. (BTW, I didn't actually mean that Shakira is on drugs, it was just an example. I love her sooo much) |
If Ayu were to be taking drugs, it would be her problem, not yours. You're just jealous because she would be able to afford it way more than you ever will. NOW SHUT UP
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He's not going to listen. Don't bother trying to get him to agree with us.
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well said bulmasman ;)
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Thanks :)
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*applauds and gives a standing ovation* Ashley's right, though. It's no use giving him more energy to feast on since we all know it's all garbage.
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Yeh, I guess you're right.
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Has anyone else noticed that we have proved him wrong and he has just left?He is embarrased and now he sees his mistake but does not want to admit it so all he does is not sign on and just browses the forum.
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yea, but then he's gonna come back saying, "Oh, so now I HAVE to return to my thread that I want others' opinions on?" XP
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Lets just stop replying to his nonsense posts. (No action from us means no reaction from him!)
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Well we all know that Ayu is a very busy person but if she is as busy as you are saying she is, then how would she have time to actually abuse herself with such drugs? Think about it, she would have to get away from all of her crew, security workers and fans to get ahold of substances and use them. I'm not saying she has no free time but the time she has to herself she would use to get rest, not to wither herself away with drugs which would help her situation to an extent of nothing. Accusing Ayu of drug abuse is not exactly a fan would do to a person they looked up to and admire. I hope future conversations will be on a better note than this one....
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yeah imma stay outta this one..
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Anyway, whatever, I don't really need to prove myself to anyone, no-one should, as long as you know the truth for yourself, that's all that matters. |
Well, with all the stuff Avex is making her do, how can she find the time to do drugs? Damn slave drivers.. *goes to Avex's military HQ with a sniper rifle and a bullet with Matsuura's name on it.* They need to give her a break.
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I'm just fed up with this now. Give it up man.
Now your properly directing all of this at us members. Somehow I find it hard to believe that anyone with a high post count has achieved that by just saying "Wow thanks" in every post that has a picture. As Chibinina pointed out, we are extremely greatful for these images. I myself wouldn't even know where to start looking for the latest images. Plus, you don't seem to contribute either to news or anything about Ayumi. Infact, i've only ever seen you posting in this thread. Try posting in some other topics and see how much YOU can contribute hey? go on, just try it. |
Ok, that's enough of that. This argument is over.
If you want to discuss Elm's theory then go ahead, but do so in a respectful way even if you disagree with what he says. You don't have to like what he says, but fighting is not allowed here. Don't be rude. If people continue to argue, then I will close the topic. |
A quick math lesson on reason and logic
Well, just to go off topic for a second, I've viewed many posts in this thread, and it is safe to say that the skill of BASIC reasoning is quite... lacking. So here we go, another one of my math lessons. And this one is actually REAL this time. :D
First of all, all reasoning takes an if... then... format. Example: if a muffler is cracked, then the car will make noise Second, you CANNOT assume that the statement can go both ways. Example: if a muffler is cracked, then the car will make noise <- this is true, since the job of a muffler is to shut the car up(Shut it up, not give more HP. Take note, ricers!) If the car makes noise, then the muffler is cracked <- This statement is NOT true, since you know that there are many factors, and a cracked muffler, although a possible reason, may not be the reason. Third, know your facts. Example: If the car is making noise, then your car is rusting <- if your car is rusting, it's a deathtrap anyway. Um.. well, just though you should know, cuz wearing a pot shirt /= smoke weed. I smoke pot... I don't have a pot shirt. ..Wait, That was supposed to be the OTHER way around.. :think |
yeah, i dont have a pot shirt either.. :roflmao
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Well, I can see that she can't look amazing all of the time, I pointed that out and now I'm being treated like I've blasphemed beyond all belief.. I think that in the "RAINBOW" PV she looks drained and tired, do you honestly think that she still looks as good now as she did back in the day? |
Ha ha ha!!!! Your so funny man! You dont give up do you.:laugh
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