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drewbilation 21st November 2004 09:30 PM

Profanity in J-pop?
 
It seems (to me atleast (in my limited knowledge of Japanese)) that most J-pop songs have very tame lyrics in terms of profanity. In fact, there are only a few songs that I've recognized profanity at all: Crystal Kay's new single, 'Bye My Darling!' has 'namecha ikemasen,' which I've read means 'don't f-ck with me' and Heartsdales seems to use American profanity ('damn,' 'ass,' etc) a lot in their raps...

But other than that, I haven't noticed much (if any) profanity in the majority of J-pop music, which I find odd since the Japanese seem to view profanity as less of a 'taboo' than Americans.

Any thoughts?

BanFan 21st November 2004 10:03 PM

There's not really much that I know of...

Check the lyrics to DAI's Summer Days though! XD

Calico 21st November 2004 11:16 PM

That's something I've noticed a lot as well, especially since my mom constantly asks me that. XD; Pretty much the only profanity I've ever heard from Japanese people in music has been English profanity. (Case in point? SUMMER DAYS =D) Then again I don't know that much Japanese profanity, so maybe I'm missing things at time. But I don't think that it's the end of my world, heh.

~K+ 21st November 2004 11:44 PM

Well, just because it's less of a taboo doesn't make it a necessity to be rude in songs.

But umm, go check out some songs by those visual artists, and Gackt's 'Vanilla'.

drewbilation 22nd November 2004 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ~K+
Well, just because it's less of a taboo doesn't make it a necessity to be rude in songs.

True, but the Japanese seem fond of the word 'baka,' and being call an idiot, in my opinion, is far ruder than most curse words... which a lot of times aen't directed at one specific person like being called a baka is.

Zesty 22nd November 2004 12:25 AM

Well, does ayumi ever say cuss words?

In Stadium Tour, I know she says "work your ass"
but thats the only thing ive heard.

~K+ 22nd November 2004 12:41 AM

Well, Baka probably doesn't have the same negative conotation to it like English does because some words can't be interpretted perfectly in English.

Well, say for example, Chinese is closer to Japanese than English, and Baka is always translated to a less rude way of saying idiot and sometimes in a half-joking way instead of the more extreme one. *Adds smilie face* Languages are a weird thing.

PrismaticTears 22nd November 2004 01:53 AM

Check out "I've," one of the songs with Miki is called, "**** Me." pretty self-explanatory, I lost count of how many times that was said in that single track.

paper_doll 22nd November 2004 02:20 AM

I think Jrock makes up for a lot of it ^^;

extepan 22nd November 2004 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zesty
Well, does ayumi ever say cuss words?

In Stadium Tour, I know she says "work your ass"
but thats the only thing ive heard.


how to say that in japanese????

Linzy 22nd November 2004 02:02 PM

Profanity doesn't really exist in Japanese. Although some words may be translated into English as "b*tch" or "s hit" or whatever, they don't really have the "shock factor" in Japanese. They can be said on daytime TV, in music on radios, whatever. Swear words don't really exist in Japanese.

matt 22nd November 2004 03:23 PM

I think Ayu actually says 'Raise your hands'

Anyway... I was just thinking... whenever Japanese people who are learning English do a homestay or study abroad to Australia, America or whatever, they always ask to learn the 'bad' words, or we always offer to teach them. I could rattle off dozens in seconds. Individual words and phrases. However, when the situation is reversed and I ask my Japanese friends to teach me bad words, they're stumped as to what to teach me.

Swear words in English are in such common use, without always having a rude meaning. 'That's so f-ing cheap!' for example. We tend to use words like that as if they are toilet paper. Bad words in Japanese (and they tend to be more of a phrase than a single word) are used rarely and in extree cases.

Perhaps that is why.

Brittany 22nd November 2004 03:32 PM

There's not that much profanity in Japanese songs.. but it seems tasteful because it's in a different language :laugh

Even my penpal told me that there is not a lot of swearing in Japanese R&B and HIPHOP..

//hikari 22nd November 2004 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by matt
I think Ayu actually says 'Raise your hands'

That's what she says ..

When I first heard her say that I could have sworn it was "Crap your pants" o.O

Brittany 23rd November 2004 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by //hikari
That's what she says ..

When I first heard her say that I could have sworn it was "Crap your pants" o.O

:eek
:laugh

FancySN 23rd November 2004 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by //hikari
That's what she says ..

When I first heard her say that I could have sworn it was "Crap your pants" o.O


You are officially the funniest person on AHS...... :roflmao

Larisa-chan 24th November 2004 02:46 AM

LOL work your ass? crap your pants? hahahaha

I heard that BUCK-TICK uses a lot of swear words in their songs.. but I could be totally wrong heh. I've heard Sex Machineguns use some unpleasant words too. Anyone know?

As for Japanese, I watched this weirdest anime called Ebichu where they were spouting off words that were translated into English swear words. There was also a word used by a character that offended this old lady o.o;; ::rambles::

PrismaticTears 24th November 2004 05:20 AM

In Koda Kumi's Shake It PV during that little intermission, "Shake your ass" was used as well (said in english though).

Ebichu is supposed to be an ecchi anime, I only saw a whole 3 seconds of that and the fact became clear to me. Needless to say yes they use lots of coarse language.

Ibitsu Kokoro 24th November 2004 05:34 AM

Um...baka I think is more popular with those scary anime obsessives (you know who you are) ... at my school every sentence they say has the word "baka" in it somehow. That's why I tend NOT to use that word. Although k+, I've seen a lot in anime where baka is used as a really "idiot!" idiot in the full english sense of the word and not jokingly. Also, it is immature to think that a language is free of real profanity Linzy. It doesn't matter if profanity is used on japanese television, profanity is also used on american television, is it not?

Linzy 24th November 2004 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayuspeed
Um...baka I think is more popular with those scary anime obsessives (you know who you are) ... at my school every sentence they say has the word "baka" in it somehow. That's why I tend NOT to use that word. Although k+, I've seen a lot in anime where baka is used as a really "idiot!" idiot in the full english sense of the word and not jokingly. Also, it is immature to think that a language is free of real profanity Linzy. It doesn't matter if profanity is used on japanese television, profanity is also used on american television, is it not?

You won't even hear "****" or "****" on daytime or primetime TV.

How is it immature of me to think that Japanese has no real profanity? I speak Japanese. How is it immature to state a fact?

Yes, there are rude words in Japanese, but there are no words in the Japanese language that are "bad" to the extent that words like "****" and "****" are in English. These are words that are bleeped out on TV and radio. Words like this don't exist in Japanese.


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