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AznWizKidz 1st December 2005 07:08 AM

Ayumi's New Single (Bold & Delicious) becoming too American?
 
After listening and watching some of ayu's songs on her new single Bold and Delicious, i have noticed that it is very American. With the church type of chorus in the background accompanying her with she sings. To me that is very American. Also the song style of Bold and Delicious is very American. Like a church type of song.

I don't know what you guys think but i think Ayu got Americanalized!

Raleigh 1st December 2005 07:12 AM

She always was. It's no secret that Ayu was always interested in America so I don't see the big deal :)

emi♡ 1st December 2005 07:20 AM

new style...and? i think many japanese artists, or artists from everywhere, have an interest in America, however because of all the language barriers, they're never gonna make it...even though its sad

benslave4u 1st December 2005 07:20 AM

well It's written by this guy that was in SWEETBOX his name is GEO. And he is from Germany so I would say yeah it's a pretty "Westernized" song. And this Geo guy has done a lot of amazing stuff. And in Asia ayu isn't the first one that has tried his music. In Taiwan there is a group call S.H.E they have also sang songs that's written by GEO. For example, Superstar, Remember, Always on my mind and many more. So I would say yeah ayu is trying a very interesting style that's from the West. But then I kind of have to say that ayu was already very interested in Western stuff for a long time. So I wouldn't say that NOW ayu is being Westernized.

~*Mabushii*~ 1st December 2005 07:28 AM

Hmm, it is rather westernized.. but it's not a big deal... her singing is still good, although I am hoping that she isn't going to keep this style..
with the choir behind her and all

hamasaki_edwin 1st December 2005 07:31 AM

have u guys ever watch lindsay lohan's movie called "confessions of a teenage drama queen"? in that movie lindsay also sang a song called "livin' for the city" which its style is very similar to B&D (gospel, right?)

Qt Mashi 1st December 2005 07:34 AM

yeah i do agree that B&D is Americanized or Westernized but i guess Japanese people like it that way, but i don't :X

EDGE23 1st December 2005 11:37 AM

If u notice ayu PV or some live performances u can see some BG voice is church people who did it and for PV they are always have American in that.

RAISKA 1st December 2005 02:36 PM

And I agree with AznWizKidz! And I don't like it at all! Ye-a, Ayu loves NY and LA, yes, she likes America, ye-a, she always was non-Japanese-like, but still...now, when she's grown-up, she has more opportunity to do whatever she wants, so...as much time will pass by-so much Ayu will Americanise.

I don't say it's bad, but it's somehow...sad...like she's losing herself, her individuality!

Yarumi 1st December 2005 03:31 PM

I thought places like NY and LA were popular for Japanese people?

Plus I remember when Evolution came out and everyone loved that it was kinda American-ish...

Actually I didn't mind the PV being in NY, I just minded it being on the back of a semi... riding through the street... wasn't that interesting! :sarclap

I actually didn't mind Ayu doing a gospel song... I was kinda excited... BUT B&D is not really gospel... just got gospel-ish singers in the backgroud : / I think if Ayu went REAL gospel it could be awesome!

fantaisie.sign 1st December 2005 10:15 PM

The question should be "What isn't Americanized today?" Kumi, BoA, Hikki, Namie, Mai Kuraki -- I could go on -- all have an American sound. What's wrong with that?

AyumiFanGuy 1st December 2005 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chibinina4
What's wrong with that?

Well, for me at least, what's wrong with it is that if I wanted to listen to American-style music, I'd listen to American music and never listen to Japanese music again. :eyebrow

Coelacanth 1st December 2005 10:42 PM

ALL J-pop and J-rock is Westernized, at least to a degree. J-pop is influenced directly from Western music, and there's really nothing wrong with it.

*Petit* 1st December 2005 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Yarumi
I thought places like NY and LA were popular for Japanese people?

Plus I remember when Evolution came out and everyone loved that it was kinda American-ish...

Actually I didn't mind the PV being in NY, I just minded it being on the back of a semi... riding through the street... wasn't that interesting! :sarclap

I actually didn't mind Ayu doing a gospel song... I was kinda excited... BUT B&D is not really gospel... just got gospel-ish singers in the backgroud : / I think if Ayu went REAL gospel it could be awesome!

I think the japanese seem to love everyting foreign, done in a japanese / by japanese way. Releasing evolution she used the US flag and stuff, but other than the purely image-related stuff, I don't find the music very americanized. I don't think ayu's style ever has been very americanized compared to other japanese artists like f.ex koda kumi and namie who've done songs that are much closer to the popular rnb style that seems to be very hip in the US now. Ayu's never done any real rnb songs, she's been sticking more to the (euro)japanese dance/pop-rock thing. But on B&D she adopts a style that's purely american; funky gospel. SOme poeple mentioned that pride resembles something Alicia keys would do (especially in the verse), and because of the fact that these two songs are releases together one notice the "american" style even more. So I can understand how people feel that this single is more americanized than ever before.

elepop 1st December 2005 11:01 PM

If Ayu new songs are "americanized" than what are Koda Kumi, BoA and Namie Amuro songs? Yes, both songs from the "B&D" single have the "church-like" theme. What makes it "american"? I don't get it. Because it's "church-sounding" it means that it's "american"? So only american can have the gospel background singers? I don't think so. And "Pride" does not sound american, at all. That's like saying "HEAVEN" sounds american...

I say, if you're not happy with it, than don't listen to it. Ayu is NOT gonna please everybody.

Yarumi 2nd December 2005 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by asongforXX
If Ayu new songs are "americanized" than what are Koda Kumi, BoA and Namie Amuro songs? Yes, both songs from the "B&D" single have the "church-like" theme. What makes it "american"? I don't get it. Because it's "church-sounding" it means that it's "american"? So only american can have the gospel background singers? I don't think so. And "Pride" does not sound american, at all. That's like saying "HEAVEN" sounds american...

I say, if you're not happy with it, than don't listen to it. Ayu is NOT gonna please everybody.


I don't think Pride sounds 'church like' ... sure it has a choir... but a handful of japanese songs have choirs... look at forgiveness... choir :)

the thing that seperates me from American music is not the beat or music itself... but the lyrics... I personally think Ayu's lyrics are way more heartfelt and meaningful that most American songs

devilayu 2nd December 2005 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Phantoma
ALL J-pop and J-rock is Westernized, at least to a degree. J-pop is influenced directly from Western music, and there's really nothing wrong with it.

That is a very good point, a point that most j-pop or j-rock fans overlook. I think it's sad that in the western j-music fan community, "American" or "Western" are words that have a negative connotation. Talk about double standards.

Xianghua 2nd December 2005 12:46 AM

I don't think she's getting americanized, and so what if she is? A lot of japanese are interested in western things. It's like westerners interested in japanese things.

And I agree that if anything it's "westernized" not "americanized"

Echiko 2nd December 2005 01:07 AM

I'm not suprised. Besides. Bringing the american style into japan isn't such a bad idea to get the sales up right? ;D It's different!

AyuGAME 2nd December 2005 01:32 AM

but i think its a nice variety of song that she has made, yeah its have a west nutrition but i just love ayu song
looks the other artist that just singing the same type of song again and again but ayu has deal with many genre of song
hope the single going to sales well, i'm afraid aiko will beat her since in the second day aiko beat her
but lets pray for the best for her


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