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spacelion 21st January 2006 07:08 AM

The paintings...
 
in the Ourselves PV. They must mean something
What do they say on the bottom?
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/967/capture3jw1.jpg
1999 - Mama?
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/6372/capture27hx.jpg
2001 - Max?
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/9407/capture31gr.jpg
2003 - Max?

What does this all mean?

walking proud 21st January 2006 07:43 AM

It looks like it says the numbers and then "moo". But yeah, the top one is from 1999 (not sure which cover it is)

The second one is from 2001 release, Free & Easy

The third one is from 2003 release, A BALLADS

(Correct me if I'm wrong on this, guys)

alternarist 21st January 2006 07:52 AM

the dates are there...

1st one: Ayu-mi-x Acoustic Orchestra Version (1999)
2nd one: NEVER EVER Single (2001)
3rd: A Ballads (2003)

although i noe where are the pics from, but i dont know whats the significance of them.. :(

Indie 21st January 2006 08:15 PM

I read in this forum that Ayu opposed to the release of NEVER EVER, A BALLADS and A BEST, and that those were supposed to be the ones in ourselves, but the first painting doesn't really look like any of the A BEST covers. :shrug

oh wait, I remember the A BEST cover is displayed throughout the entire video, probably ayu opposed to the release of ayu-mi.x AOV too.

Sweer 21st January 2006 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Indie
I read in this forum that Ayu opposed to the release of NEVER EVER, A BALLADS and A BEST, and that those were supposed to be the ones in ourselves, but the first painting doesn't really look like any of the A BEST covers. :shrug

oh wait, I remember the A BEST cover is displayed throughout the entire video, probably ayu opposed to the release of ayu-mi.x AOV too.

I see, I didnt know about that. thx

Indie 21st January 2006 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alternarist
the dates are there...

1st one: Ayu-mi-x Acoustic Orchestra Version (1999)
2nd one: NEVER EVER Single (2001)
3rd: A Ballads (2003)

although i noe where are the pics from, but i dont know whats the significance of them.. :(

could it be that Mxx Matsuura was the one who wanted those releases?, cause it looks like ·Max·

chibi_sunny 21st January 2006 11:49 PM

wow, you're very observative!
well, the first one has something to do with her mother, and the bottom two with Max Matsuura....well think about the PVs for Free &Easy and Never Ever...do you see a connection? (Ayu's PVs are weird, and i cant figure them out, and i dont know about the A Ballads either)...

fεяnαndδ 22nd January 2006 01:21 AM

The first one is not ayu-mi-x AOV.

EDIT: hang on, come to think of it, it could be...

ImpactBreaker 22nd January 2006 01:28 AM

ayu DIDN'T oppose to the release of NEVER EVER and A BALLADS. She did so for A BEST. What happened to NEVER EVER (and also to Endless sorrow) is that she didn't really like the final result of both songs. She mentioned in a interview that she disliked both songs, a reason why they remade Endless sorrow in "I am..." (I can't really believe - well I do believe but well you know - that she doesn't like the original Endless sorrow because that's one of her very best songs.) As for a BALLADS, the cover and even the fact she made the song RAINBOW pretty much shows how much she wasn't opposed to its release.

Axel_Grease 22nd January 2006 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by chibi_sunny
wow, you're very observative!
well, the first one has something to do with her mother

Maybe it has to do with A Song for XX since the song itself had to do with her mom.

alternarist 22nd January 2006 03:46 AM

she HATED NEVER EVER??? how could this be? it's such a good song.. i dont think all these are to do with hatred or anything.. or perhaps there are the 3 albums and single that she liked the most!

Ayumi no Yume 22nd January 2006 03:50 AM

When i first saw the first one, I thought of this cover.
http://www.geocities.com/vr_cypher0/...avcd-11717.jpg

Indie 22nd January 2006 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker
ayu DIDN'T oppose to the release of NEVER EVER and A BALLADS. She did so for A BEST. What happened to NEVER EVER (and also to Endless sorrow) is that she didn't really like the final result of both songs. She mentioned in a interview that she disliked both songs, a reason why they remade Endless sorrow in "I am..." (I can't really believe - well I do believe but well you know - that she doesn't like the original Endless sorrow because that's one of her very best songs.) As for a BALLADS, the cover and even the fact she made the song RAINBOW pretty much shows how much she wasn't opposed to its release.

and she remade three songs for A BEST, :P , I wouldn't really know as I just read it somewhere and repeated it :)

ImpactBreaker 22nd January 2006 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Indie
and she remade three songs for A BEST, :P , I wouldn't really know as I just read it somewhere and repeated it :)

Not 3 but 5 actually (4 with new vocals, 1 with new instrumentals), maybe because she thought the album should at least have to be worth buying (not to mention it featured an exclusive new song M, which later with the release of I am... wasn't exclusive anymore LOL). She shot all the covers crying and the covers have a depressing tone (gray, black & white). That's totally different to what actually happened to A BALLADS, she created 2 new songs (one of them, RAINBOW, which had already been announced by her that it would feature lyrics based on thoughts of her fans) just for that album , plus 2 songs that got new vocals and arrangements, and the covers were shot into a rather "I'm feeling the best ever" expression (she looks rather comfortable in the A BALLADS covers LOL). Plus everything was already planned when the album RAINBOW had just been released.

KasumiNeko 23rd January 2006 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by alternarist
she HATED NEVER EVER???

to think that was one of the songs that made me get into Ayu's music:thud

DA1SUK1DAY01691 23rd January 2006 10:56 AM

the first one IS acoustic orchestra one, the shape of the eyebrows match in the eneabba.net pictures. Unless it was an unreleased cover for A Song for XX.

But i was also looking at Trust's cover, and it looks like it without the hair on the right side of her face.

spacelion 24th January 2006 02:48 AM

Yeah I did read that she opposed to the release of A Ballads and that Rainbow was supposed to be a single, but Avex changed it's mind and put it in A Ballads...(*is confused*)

I guess my question is, why of all the covers did she pick those for the PV?

sexysaucestar 24th January 2006 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alternarist
she HATED NEVER EVER??? how could this be? it's such a good song.. i dont think all these are to do with hatred or anything.. or perhaps there are the 3 albums and single that she liked the most!

I think ImpactBreaker said Ayu hated how NEVER EVER ended up sounding like..probably didn't dislike the lyrics, but maybe the music to the song. o_o

JimmyKoria 25th January 2006 12:31 AM

Also, doesnt the rocking horse in it look similiar to the one in ladies night pv?

I'm still suprised she didnt like the original of Endless Sorrow. The lyrics were some of her best [and usually I hate short lyrics but those ones expressed a lot].

sexysaucestar 25th January 2006 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by KORiA
Also, doesnt the rocking horse in it look similiar to the one in ladies night pv?

I'm still suprised she didnt like the original of Endless Sorrow. The lyrics were some of her best [and usually I hate short lyrics but those ones expressed a lot].

Didn't notice the rocking horse o_o;; Hmmm....

Maybe she wanted to express Endless Sorrow differently o_o Even though I do have to agree the lyrics are good as they are.


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