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Zeke. 17th December 2006 05:19 AM

[2006] Black Cherry vs. Secret (oh yes, I went there!)
 
Which album do you like better? I for one haven't listened to Secret yet since I am waiting to get my copy Christmas Day from my mom but I have no doubt that Secret it going to take the cake - however, I will not vote as of now...

I like Black Cherry though, but I think the amount of new material is terrible. Considering I liked most singles/a-sides, I would rather judge the album as a whole - although if this were Ayu's album, I would prefer her to have saved more new material for the album but since it is Ku and I don't have as much passion for her, than it is fine. She'll have 5 new singles next week anyway, lol.

Mad_Cactuar 17th December 2006 06:09 AM

Secret. You know, I probably had too high an expectation for Black Cherry. And the hype was crazy. So far I downloaded the CD, listened to WON'T BE LONG ~RED CHERRY VERSION~ and gave up on it. Damn, it was baadddd.

s1012h 17th December 2006 06:20 AM

Black Cherry REALLY disappointed me
Secret is wayyyyy better
it's kind of weird
Koda's single tracks are better than Ayu's
and Ayu's album tracks are WAYYYY better than Koda's
but Secret flowed better, and the songs are more addicting
the only song i can play a million times from Black Cherry is Get Up&Move!!
so yeah i chose Secret
all the wayyyyy!

~X2RADialbomber~ 17th December 2006 06:28 AM

Sadly, as much as I am a Kuu fan, Black Cherry was only exciting me with it's Single Tracks x.x I listened to Secret today, and it just made me feel really good... sadly Black Cherry didn't do that for me

~X2RADialbomber~ 17th December 2006 06:47 AM

^ But now that Black Cherry has leaked we can actually say which one is better

I hope no one starts fights here x.x

moombasista 17th December 2006 06:52 AM

I'm so disappointed with Black Cherry OMG

explodingbird 17th December 2006 06:58 AM

Tough call. Both had great singles and great album tracks. But really, you can't compare them. They're two very different artists with very different styles on each album. Ayu focused on pop, rock, and techno. Kuu focused on pop, R&B, a bit of rock, and sweet/powerful ballads. She loses a bit of edge because of Candle Light, Milk Tea, and WON'T BE LONG ~Black Cherry Version~, but gains them back for everything else - fifteen great tracks (one more track than Ayu's album) so there's more wiggle room for error. Ayu... well, I have to say, Startin' and 1 LOVE grew on me immensely. With Kuu, I love all but three songs. With Ayu, I love all fourteen tracks. That's roughly the same amount of material between the two.

I think they tied, but again, it's a very weird comparison because the albums were so different stylistically. Again, the whole pointless Ayu vs. Ku war is being egged on again.

On the plus side, at least nobody was doing something insane like comparing Mika's TRUE to Hikki's ULTRA BLUE and asking us which album was better.

s1012h 17th December 2006 07:05 AM

i guess Black Cherry just didn't deliver for me
i listened to the album a couple of times
and i found that i had to skip most of the songs a minute after
i hope i'm not being biased
and even though the two albums are so different
ayu and koda will always be compared
it's inevitable

it's probably never gonna happen
and i'm probably stupid for saying this haha
but i do hope that Secret will eventually sell better than Black Cherry
chances are that Black Cherry first week sales will be explosive
but Secret is a better album for me

Ayumi-Yummi 17th December 2006 07:12 AM

Black Cherry is horrid - I only like 4 tracks from it! I really like Juicy, just because it's sooo nasty! --
But Secret is awesome, the whole album!
Jewel + Until That Day... + Beautiful Fighters & 1 Love... that's all I need.

zeroshin888 17th December 2006 07:31 AM

I choose SECRET even though I haven't listened to the new material in Black Cherry yet.


No offence or anything, but I think it is quite redundant to have a poll like this. The forum is called AHS for a reason so of course Ayu's SECRET is going to WIN in this poll.

Keishi 17th December 2006 07:49 AM

Wow. What a clever thread.

moombasista 17th December 2006 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keishi (Post 976919)
Wow. What a clever thread.

LMFAO

Ayumiko 17th December 2006 08:00 AM

I was hoping something like this would not show up...lol Hope there wont be any fights or bashing. I would also want to say that I wouldnt call the album that I dont like suck or whatever coz even though I may not like it, the artist itself put alot of work into it.

I listened to both albums and I chose Secret..not that because Im a ayu fan. I have my reasons! In my opinion, both albums didnt have good single tracks.

Kumi had 8 single tracks + wont be long as a single with exile, plus songs that are released already as something else before the release of the album (GO WAY!!, twinkle) so basically there werent that many album tracks and plus some of them are too short. I didnt like any of the single tracks...I like yume no uta, unmei, Ningyo hime musically but I dont like her voice in them...and I think that kinda ruined the songs for me...so I dont like them.

Ayu had 4 single tracks on the album and the only single song that I could listen to without kinda skipping would be born to be (coz of the arena tour dvd...it was awesome :luv2 ) but I didnt think it fit the album....just like b&d didnt fit m(u) in my opinion. The rest of the single tracks, I had to kinda skip...especially beautiful fighters..:dead2

Album tracks:

Some of kumi's album tracks are way too short...I thought ayu's were short.. I think the only good thing about this album is the introduction and get up & move...those two were great to start off the album...but I dont see myself repeating those 2 songs...and I also thought they was kinda misleading. If I didnt listen to the single tracks before, I would of thought the rest of the songs would be more r&b. I think the only song I truely like on the whole album would be puppy...the rest...I deleted all from my computer. Also the album didnt really flow well. Something about her voice too...its gone weak and she sounded awful...especally milk tea. :dead2 I never thought I would say something bad about her voice because I think she has one of the most strongest voice Ive heard. I think her voice needs to rest coz seriously I might enjoy more of the songs if it werent for her voice. Well I did give the album a try...but it didnt work out for me.

Ayu's album tracks were excellent in my opinion...ofcourse if you compare them to her old work, they are not as good...but atleast they are way better than the single tracks. I heard this album before kumi's and I thought ayu's tracks are a bit short...only 1 song that is more than 5 mins long...and its beauiful fighters...-____-...I love the introduction...I love it more after seeing the translations....the second song flowed smoothly after the intro...at first I didnt know it was the second song already. I wish they would make the intro into full length. I think this is the only ayu album that I dont need to skip any album tracks...and I think she did a good job in making them better and more different than the single tracks. I also like her deeper voice in this album and how she sang until that day and 1 love differently than normal. There are some things I didnt like though...only 14 tracks and we have 2 interludes and intro...it would of been nice if there are more tracks if she have to keep them. Also I think there is room for improvement on the arrangements of some of the songs.

I felt ayu improved her album tracks and pvs from her single tracks and I really appreciate that...and that is also one of the main reasons why I chose Secret. I dont want to imagine if she still stick with the single type songs and pvs...well atleast she made up for it I guess. :) Black cherry has a song that kumi composed for the first time. It was a nice attempt from her and I appreciate that for her trying...but sorry I dont like that song at all...her voice...:no Is it a good thing that its so short? and I also think her album tracks werent as great as her single tracks (except for puppy) and I dont like her single tracks in the first place...so I dont like the whole album. Atleast for Secret, even though I dont like the single tracks, I like all the album tracks and there are none that I need to skip.

edit: lol...I chose Secret

Keishi 17th December 2006 08:05 AM

O_O



can you give me a conclusion to that essay?

[taskin.ayu] 17th December 2006 08:16 AM

I'd say Secret, even though I know Black Cherry might sell more. Ayu's album was very solid and I enjoyed every song on the album. Black Cherry had some songs that I didn't enjoy like Unmei and Puppy. :/ I didn't like how it flowed either, with the sudden ballad in between two fast paced songs. XD So Secret wins for me.

..:Hot:Like:Wow:.. 17th December 2006 08:25 AM

Secret, even wothout bias I would still choose secret I was shocked at Black Cherry.

truehappiness 17th December 2006 08:55 AM

So.

Uh. There.

huyuhuyu 17th December 2006 08:59 AM

Secret.
uh. bad bad work kumi. I liked only one song in the album over eighteen.

Mad_Cactuar 17th December 2006 09:31 AM

Ok, I might have been too rash. Now that I've listened to the entire album, I choose...

Secret.

Black Cherry isn't very bad actually, but WON'T BE LONG ~Black Cherry Version~ is just plain terrible. I want to buy the album and I don't want that hideous track on it. Milk Tea is very nice, but the vocals are ridiculous.

My Rainbow 17th December 2006 12:24 PM

I'm really happy because I love both albums! I prefer Secret. But I'm not as dissapointed as all of you about Black Cherry.

And yes, WON'T BE LONG ~Black Cherry Version~ is really bad!


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