Those non-Johnny's Boysbands...
 

I don't know much about boybands , but EXILE is very succesful. I think they're the biggest selling act/artist on Rhythm Zone.

Koda Kumi is going to earn that title very soon at this rate tho, she might have already.

I dun know about other boy bands or boybands in general, I dun like them cause some remind me of BSB and stuff I dun like! but I just recently learn about Johnny's Boysbands and I have to say kanajni8 RULE!!!

lol!

b´z is a boy band no? or.. regular group? I don.t know.

EXILE is one and off the top of my heard, w-inds.?

w-inds are under avex? I have no idea...
Well i like t&t. As for EXILE - i dun get their music

w-inds. They're pretty good. They're under PONY CANYON, I believe~!

I think it's easier to be in a boyband and be a part of JE, most of them are under that company though..

K8 is really awesome~ I like them too :)

Both Tackey & Tsubasa and Shuji to Akira are from Johnnys.

Other than Johnnys, I can think of Mr.Children, B'z, WaT, w-inds, LEAD, FLAME, EXILE...

I only know that sales by Mr.Children and B'z are really very good.




^Yup I just started to like Kanjani8!! Their songs are so different from other JE boybands!

Perhaps TOKIO?... They're like a boyband that plays instruments and writes their own song xD

There's one year difference between Koda's and EXILE's debut, but they gained recognition earlier, around their third album, with Choo Choo Train, which sold like million copies... their albums sold considerably well, unlike Koda's... but then Koda had BEST albums, so I think sales wise she's probably outdone them already...

^ TOKIO is a JE band also~ :yes

i really think Johnny's Ent. sets the standard for male groups in Japan. i don't think many boy bands outside JE can make it to their status. the only ones i can think of are EXILE & w-inds. maybe FLAME & Lead also (they're under Pony Canyon with w-inds.) i don't really count B'z & Mr. Children because they're not boybands, more like rock groups (well, B'z is a duo).

KANJANI8 is awesome! 8D they're sooooo hilarious.

They're also under the same management as Namie.

and WaT.

Isen't it kind of like the H!P thing, only a LOT bigger and older? The groups uses the same type of promotion and has somethihng similar to a monopoly on that market (boy band market), so the potensial fans will automatically discover johnny's boys before anything else? I also heard that managements may be getting in trouble if they try to challenge johnny's entertainment with similar groups.

oh yeah! how can i forget Wentz & Teppei! :P

JE is more idol-based than H!P. also, JE members don't graduate, haha. i've read articles saying that JE is a monopoly, but i don't know. i just think Johnny Kitagawa is really good at marketing his groups.

JE has their own up & coming stars that they place in a category called the "Johnny's Juniors". after the boys audition and get into the Jimusho, they're placed in this category as training to become a full-fledged idol. these Juniors even have their own TV show called "Shounen Club" where they perform. they also back-dance for their "sempais" at music shows. so, even though they're not releasing music, these Johnny's Juniors have a fanbase established!

i think that's why KAT-TUN has been so successful. they were formed back in 2001, even though they just released their first single a year ago. YamaPi has been a favorite amongst the fangirls even before NEWS debut back in 2004.

i do hear about JE challenging other management companies, even having a special deal with ORICON. but, who knows? :shrug (i have a few JE magazines myself & they promote musicians other than their groups. i see WaT photoshoots all the time! but that's my 2 cents.)

Anyone mention AAA? they aren't necessarily all boys but most of them are. But wow... to be a non JE boy band in Japan. Kind of hard isn't it?

not all Johnny's Entertainment groups are under the "Johnny's Entertainment" record label. only Shounentai, KinKi Kids, & NEWS are. Arashi & KAT-TUN are under J-Storm (though KAT-TUN has their own label, J-One, under J-Storm). TOKIO's under Universal-Music, KANJANI8's under TEICHIKU, & SMAP's under Victor Entertainment.

it just so happens Tackey & Tsubasa, as well as V6, are under avex trax.

the record companies only host their music for distribution. JE decides when to release it. they're basically management. (that's why you see AVT for T&T, even KAT-TUN appears as JON, instead of JE).

another example would be Namie Amuro. her music's distributed by avex trax, but she's under VISION FACTORY management. hope that helps! :)

regarding KAT-TUN's album: i was actually hoping for a 300,000+ opening week (since their singles have opened above 400,000+), but yeah. JE albums don't do as well as singles. KinKi Kids & Arashi albums generally do as well as a single release.

i was surprised to find out T&T & V6 were under avex as well! (i thought they had a rivalry too. XD) but i guess not.

yep, Johnny Kitagawa gave KAT-TUN their own record label as a gift for their debut. J-Storm is specifically for Arashi as well, but sometimes JE uses it for special products like soundtracks too.

The rivalry is probably just limited to the management companies. i.e. JE vs. Vision Factory.