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SchweincheN 30th January 2009 03:04 PM

-Is Ayu often singing with "Playback"?-
 
Until yesterday I thought she was always singing live
but watching the Asia Tour 08 kind of destroyed my world when
I saw her performing Angel's song :thud

I also read through some other threads and saw that she might
have done this several times before during lives as well as concerts.

Maybe some of you have more detailed information

Evolution7/4 30th January 2009 03:08 PM

Usually she lip syncs one song during her big concerts and thats its. Sometimes she will have for tv specials and a-nation a playback playing BUT she will sing live with it.

noidea 30th January 2009 03:50 PM

ANGEL'S SONG was PCDL0809, not AT08, sure she sometimes is singing playback, with ... no reasons sometimes, evolution at Asia Tour 2007 and Countdown Live 0708 for example were playback, but she sang that song on EVERY concert since 2001 and nobody knows why shes singing THAT easy song playback and harder songs completely live

Evolution7/4 30th January 2009 04:02 PM

^She didn't lip synch evolution, watch the TV versions and NOT the DVD versions and you will see.

lfe. 30th January 2009 04:08 PM

It's ANGELS SONG, if theres any song that she would have to lipsync to make her other performances sound great, its the best song to sacrifice

SchweincheN 30th January 2009 04:51 PM

lol you're right. It was the PCDL.
Somehow I'm always confusing this with the Asia Tour 08 XD

But I also thought of something like having a playback playing in
the backround but still singing live. But that the backround music
is louder than the live vocals sometimes is strange..

noidea 30th January 2009 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evolution7/4 (Post 1805243)
^She didn't lip synch evolution, watch the TV versions and NOT the DVD versions and you will see.

in which of the concerts? and how come nobody ever brought the point that it was different in the tv versions when there were discussions about that performance? xD well, i dont want to download the complete files(too big for me and my connection) so i guess i will never know

KPL 30th January 2009 05:16 PM

So far, ANGEL'S SONG is the most obvious one.
However, I don't think that ayu lipsyches too much.

lfe. 30th January 2009 05:22 PM

We've had this discussion plenty of times and avex heavily edits the audio of any performance that doesn't sound good in the TV versions so her lips and the vocals aren't in syncopation on the DVD

Ayumi_lover 30th January 2009 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SchweincheN (Post 1805288)
lol you're right. It was the PCDL.
Somehow I'm always confusing this with the Asia Tour 08 XD

But I also thought of something like having a playback playing in
the backround but still singing live. But that the backround music
is louder than the live vocals sometimes is strange..

Well, it's not. There is technical support, which sitting in the audience(you can see their computers in the audience on every concert) - which deciding about volume, acoustic, effects etc.
So if they deciding to make this song a playbeck, they will off Ayu's mic to not make bad acoustic. By the way, LISTEN carefully to Angel's Song LATST LINES!! and you'll hear that it's LIVE!! You ill hear her breathing, real voice and back vocals!! So it's only up to techincal support sometimes decision about playback.

noidea 30th January 2009 08:40 PM

maybe theres a playback for the whole concerts and the staff decides to use one if she sounds bad xD
@ Evolution7/4 I listened to evolution CDL0708 TV version now, I dont have the AT07 dvd version one on my harddrive atm, but it sounds like at07 and cdl0708 dvd to me

emi♡ 30th January 2009 08:45 PM

it destroyed your world?

really? because it's not a big deal at all, and Ayu does it quite a lot...

and with good reason.

but yeah, in the PCDL threads there's like pages and pages of discussion over this, people who say she doesn't and people who say she does lol

I totally thought that "playback" was like a band or something when I came in here :laugh

Calico 31st January 2009 01:39 AM

I honestly don't understand why it really matters. She only does it once in a while, and quite frankly, if I had shows like hers, I would too. Especially during high-energy performances or songs no longer in her range but she wants to keep in the original sound. It happes, and it doesn't make her (or anyone) a bad artist because of it.

alternarist 1st February 2009 04:22 AM

it's all ayu's fault for her mistake of "motsu" and "mita" on ANGEL'S SONG that got us fans all agitated.. :P

ayu's frequency of lip-synching is sooooooo low compared to some taiwanese singers.. we should be grateful. and hell! PCDL was 3.5 hours long!! it's forgivable for ayu to lip-synch just one or two songs!!

LacusClyne 1st February 2009 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noidea (Post 1805494)
@ Evolution7/4 I listened to evolution CDL0708 TV version now, I dont have the AT07 dvd version one on my harddrive atm, but it sounds like at07 and cdl0708 dvd to me

well, this is a song that she sung at every concert, and i have to tell you honestly tha singing a song tooooo often will makes you sound almost the same.

Try singing a same song every week and i can tell you after 5 months, you will realise you will sound the same. I was actually always singing 'jingle bells' during December(EVERYDAY), during work to coax customers' kids and after a month, i sound almost the same when i watch the video playback of the camera. (>_<)

noidea 1st February 2009 04:18 PM

you can sound very similar, but not the same, and she sounds the same, even does one syllabe less, just like she did on AT07 and CDL0708DVD, but on not a single other performance i can recall

ownsarai 1st February 2009 05:25 PM

lol so what? She used playback tracking. She can do whatever she wants. She's Ayu. And it' not like she lipping EVERY song. I really don't see what the big deal is here.

Lee_410 1st February 2009 07:11 PM

Make

It

Stop.

Chibi_Venus 1st February 2009 11:25 PM

It really isn't a huge deal. I find it funny, actually. Hearing the real lyrics and watching Ayu's mouth... It's the one time I don't mind laughing and shouting, "FAIL!" :laugh

Kikaru 2nd February 2009 02:36 AM

I actually don't find it big of a deal. Like Calico said, if I had a concert like hers, I'd lip-sync some parts too.

But then again, I don't mind lip-syncing in general.


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