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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi
Western female pop singers like to use sex-appeal... But men in Japan thinks that kawaii girls are sexy, so, in the end... when Britney is naked doing all the "i'm so hot" faces and Ai Otsuka is talking with a childish voice, isn't it all the same? Using what that culture thinks it's sexy in order to sell music? And when random pop singers releases recyclied sexual music over here and random pop singers releases cheese love songs over there, isn't it the same thing again?
well... this is it... I just think that if u r going to say that this or that music market is bad, you need to know it and understand it's context
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seriously...I don't know about anyone else...but the lolita complex people have in Japan is just not for me. This is a perfect example of how the industries are the damn same lol
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Originally Posted by jbrat2219
I left the western popular music scene as a child because everything was about sex. I come back to it a bit as a teen/adult, and it's still about sex (only ten times worse) lol. People like Beyonce and such I don't mind, she's probably my favorite western artist. But other artists where sex is their whole persona are just... disappointing. For example - and I'm not bashing her by any means - Lady Gaga has a very interesting style to her, her music is catchy enough but the sexual overload that comes off her [personality] is... disappointing. I'd seriously rather hear her talk about her art and music influences all day everyday than hear once that the only thing a guy needs to be with her is... a "large endowment." It's just makes me think there's not much to her despite the fact she says she's "complex." (In fact, I'd love it if she were just mysterious. Shut up and let me wonder about you Gaga xD; lol)
And that's how I feel about a lot of pop music in the west. It's interesting, catchy, intriguing but when you strip it down, there's not much to it... And I'm not saying that makes jpop better by default, that's just what I feel about western pop music period.
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that's fine...I mean that's what you like. And I mean, if we're going to talk about like stuff we like, I'll say that I like artists to be artistic and whatever...but I also like artists that are really fun as well, and who also have fun music. This is one of the reasons why I love Koda. Her music isn't groundbreaking, her vocals aren't that great, she's not really an artist per say...but her music makes life more fun lol
I feel the same about Gaga. But that's just my sense of humor
But I mean...there are always going to be artists in music that are more artistic than others and whatever...and others that like to do this and that...and (here's my music elitist persona) there will always be artists that have more "musical" music than others...artists that are better musicians whatever...and there are a lot of bands that, I really respect as musicians over other artists...(ex. As a musician, I would choose hikki over ayu ANY day lol)
but we have to remember when listening to music and discussing it whatever...that not everyone is a musician, not everyone is a writing enthusiast lol, not everyone wants to listen about love songs, or about overcoming your obstacles...or listening to your heart etc.
What I had to learn about music and people listening to music is that...
every artist contributes somehow to the industry by appealing to a certain group of people, because there are just too many differences...you can't please everyone, and also, you can't let down everyone.
The music that say, elitists see as crap, lady gaga for a good example, may appeal to a lot of other people because, it's what they want to hear, what they want from their artists, even though it's not technically great music, or it doesn't have great lyrics or whatever.
Some people like sex. Why not? People are interested in it. Some people like it in their music.It's not for everyone though, and that's fine. I personally hate like cheesy love songs. Other people love them.
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I don't think it's really okay to say something like "sex overload" is disappointing. Gaga is making her music the way she wants, and the rest of us have to take it like it is.
If we still don't like it, there are plenty of other dance/electro/whatever-she-is artists out there to listen to.
None of this really negates the fact that she's extremely popular and that the radio is in love with her...I know it's really annoying...but this is why I <3 my ipod lol
I guess it's just kind of like...another one of those things...the majority of our society likes that music. I wonder what exactly that says about us.
I think it's interesting lol
(sorry for the long post)