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Old 2nd August 2010, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by StrawbariSnowAyumi View Post
Okay I get it. High ayu standards. What I'm asking is something to difficult to explain apparently
I'm barely referring to what I'm only reading on this particular thread...the comments on ayus originality yes and many say this is why her music is not as enjoyable. However I've been here long enough, lurked enough artist threads, visited a few other forums like jpm for example and realize certain people do seem to act like some of the artists they listen to are on this high standard and never complain about originality and taking risks
Its ironic to a person of my tastes to see fans of those artists and groups complaining that ayu doesn't do certain things when I see what they're into and wonder...quite a bit....
I assume ayu just has ayu world. And if its not as good as other stuff in ayu world it doesn't compare to other artists I suppose
:3 it would help if I could list particular artists but that's not a good idea and I'm sure someone will not be too appreciative
Many ayu fans can really dislike certain facets of one song. Boring lyrics. Repetitive. Uninspiring. No effort. Rushed. Typical
g. And then I look at their new fav song lol ah~ u sure that's really what's wrong with it
But all in all its just my super picky taste against many peoples ability to tolerate the more generic

Its simply the fact that fans of other artists are perfectly fine with listening to bunches of generic music but when it comes to ayu its just all in bad taste, even though u could barely call the majority of her songs nearly as unorginal (but somehow the definitions for what is original and etc always change for ayu)



I still don't feel I did a good job at explaining myself. Do u understand me? I barely understand myself ugh. Why do I talk like I have an IQ of 2.
Ugh~

A little edit (hopefully no one writes anything yet): ayus not the only artist with fans who do this as there's a few other artists with mega-standards too. There's nothing wrong with doing that for any artists. Its just interesting to see how some fans operate when u get them around another artist. Like completely different fans. I think it would make more sense if some didn't say ayu was getting generic and just admit they don't like it as it is as it looks so hypocritical to see what else is "not really generic")
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Originally Posted by kagami View Post
I think some people are forgetting that Ayu is not a musician. She never has been and I don't think it was ever her intention to make songs that are amazing and something new all the time. I actually recall her saying in some interview that she would never make a song like that just for the sake of it...And about her getting new composers, why? The compsers/arrangers she has right now aren't just there because they are her friends, they are there because they make the kind of music Ayu likes to sing. They became her friends BECAUSE of that.
I do agree that there was more raw energy in some of her older songs, but she had just as many generic songs back in the day as she has now.

I think part of what has happened is that her music has become clearer musically; her sad songs are sad, happy songs happy, angry songs angry etc. Where as in the past they were more all over the place, as if she didn't know exactly what she was feeling. That actually shows personal growth to me; she knows what she is feeling and can deal with.
About her lyrics, I think some of my all time favourites have come out of her recent songs- talkin'2 myself and rollin' particularly stick out to me. They hit me so hard when I first read them...Even now they wow me, they are just so spot on. count down has amazing and very personal lyrics as well. And RED LINE are probably some of her best ever. Simple, beautiful and full of power. I don't care that she writes about the same themes, those are the things she connects with, that represent her. I'd rather that than her just writing abunch of nonsense just for varieties sake.

God, too many words. No one's gonna read this

I have to say that I'm happy the way this thread is going, with a few execptions it's mostly been mature discussion when threads like this have so often turned into insult fests in the past.


I agree with both of these posts.
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