taskinst in ASIA TOUR 2007

[alternarist]

I just re-watched the video of taskinst in ASIA TOUR 2007. So the story of the video begins like this:

Ayu is escorted by 2 policemen (into jail).



The females in the video, somewhat, committed a crime of their own and were all escorted by policemen.

Kayanochi fled with Hide's case of cash. (She was walking with her head held up high.)
Midoring electrocuted Zin to death. (She was grinning evilly.)
Aki-chan shot Gomi to death. (She was struggling.)
Chisa-chan (somewhat) pushed Subaru down the stairs. (She looked as if she is remourseful)



After that, the video showed Shuya fired his gun and after Shuya fired his gun, ayu grabbed the gun away. Shuya fled. The 4 female dancers appeared on stage in "jail".

So how does this relate to ayu being escorted away by 2 policemen at the beginning? I am curious to know!

[kirei_ayumi]

I love how you just analyzed the scene i never thought of it like this...but what did shuya fire his gun at? I don't understand why ayu seem to have gone down with them..maybe she took the blame for him

[truehappiness]

So how does this relate to ayu being escorted away by 2 policemen at the beginning? I am curious to know!

It's simple really. ~

Basically, the video shows what happened AFTER all the guys died and Ayu took the blame for Shu-ya. So from the beginning, we see all of them being brought to jail and then we see WHY they're in jail, then in the actual performance [when they're all sitting and in the jail cells] they're actually in jail.


Your analysis of the crimes is off by a bit..

Kayanochi fled with Hide's case of cash. (She was walking with her head held up high.)
Midoring electrocuted Zin to death. (She was grinning evilly.)
Aki-chan shot Gomi to death. (She was struggling.)
Chisa-chan (somewhat) pushed Subaru down the stairs. (She looked as if she is remourseful)

Kayanocchi and Hide stole the cash together, but she took it for herself.
Midoring probably choked Zin to death due to the fact that she was just holding a phone cord [you can't electrocute someone with a disconnected phone..]
Aki-chan was in a relationship with Gomi, and he was clearly abusive, so she ended up killing him.
Chisa-chan probably wanted to be alone or w/e and accidentally killed Subaru while it looked as though he just like, loved her or.. something.

[kirei_ayumi]

^to me, it looks like chisa-chan was begging for subaru, looks like she was tugging on his leg, and then he was trying to get rid of her tug so hard that he accidently fell... aki-chan shot gomi, no choice but to do it in self-defense.

[chocopockymaster]

Reminds me a bit of Chicago. Chisa is like the girl who didn't kill her lover, but gets hanged (well, she does kill him, but I think you get where I'm going with this...)

[alternarist]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

It's simple really. ~Ayu took the blame for Shu-ya.

Ok i get it now. but u could actually stop here.

Originally Posted by truehappiness

Your analysis of the crimes is off by a bit..

Kayanocchi and Hide stole the cash together, but she took it for herself.
Midoring probably choked Zin to death due to the fact that she was just holding a phone cord [you can't electrocute someone with a disconnected phone..]
Aki-chan was in a relationship with Gomi, and he was clearly abusive, so she ended up killing him.
Chisa-chan probably wanted to be alone or w/e and accidentally killed Subaru while it looked as though he just like, loved her or.. something.

I mean, different people analyse different things differently. So who are you to say that i am wrong and your's is right? i duno why whenever you talk i get offended.

But thanks for your answer before that anyway.

[truehappiness]

Originally Posted by kirei_ayumi

^to me, it looks like chisa-chan was begging for subaru, looks like she was tugging on his leg, and then he was trying to get rid of her tug so hard that he accidently fell... aki-chan shot gomi, no choice but to do it in self-defense.

D'oh. I remember now. Chisa was the clingy one and Subaru ended up killing himself by being an ***. :O

I was thrown off.

I mean, different people analyse different things differently. So who are you to say that i am wrong and your's is right?

I think you just answered your own question here.

[alternarist]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

I think you just answered your own question here.

I didnt say mine was right. but i dont go telling pple that their analysis is "off by a bit" when they themselves are not sure what is right.

You realise that you are putting my analysis off because u think that someone cannot eletrocute someone with a disconnected phone. But did you see the exposing wire with a spark??

And did you see any choking of someone by anyone? i dont really care what's ur analysis but You don't see anything then dont tell pple that their analysis is wrong. You take it that my analysis is wrong and den use the word "probably". So you urself isnt sure what's right so who are u to tell me that mine is wrong. it's just ur words seriously. talk less please. i beg you.

[truehappiness]

You realise that you are putting my analysis off because u think that someone cannot eletrocute someone with a disconnected phone. But did you see the exposing wire with a spark??

I saw the exposed wires, but that just implies that it was ripped off of the connection. Seeing as how the phone is connected to some electrical source, of course there'd be sparks coming from the public phone itself. Since Midoring is holding the phone + the cable in a noose-like position, it can be assumed that she used the cord to kill him in such a fashion. The only way for her to have killed him via electrocution would have been to push him against the wires, but then if she did that, why would she be holding the phone + its cable?

[ExodusUK]

Originally Posted by alternarist

I didnt say mine was right. but i dont go telling pple that their analysis is "off by a bit" when they themselves are not sure what is right.

You realise that you are putting my analysis off because u think that someone cannot eletrocute someone with a disconnected phone. But did you see the exposing wire with a spark??

And did you see any choking of someone by anyone? i dont really care what's ur analysis but You don't see anything then dont tell pple that their analysis is wrong. You take it that my analysis is wrong and den use the word "probably". So you urself isnt sure what's right so who are u to tell me that mine is wrong. it's just ur words seriously. talk less please. i beg you.

I agree. I think your analysis was pretty spot on.

[alternarist]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

it can be assumed that she used the cord to kill him in such a fashion.

ya. it's all ur assumption. So u need to stop telling pple that whatever they say is "off by a bit" and whatever assumption u made "should be" considered right. I may be wrong. but i dont tell pple that their analysis is "off by a bit" and even worse, by correcting them. You need to learn how to accept other people's opinion.

You also need to know that this is an active discussion thread. So why do u constantly come up with ur antics of "no you are wrong" and "my assumptions shld be right"?

How to discuss?

[truehappiness]

I may be wrong. but i dont tell pple that their analysis is "off by a bit" and even worse, by correcting them. You need to learn how to accept other people's opinion.

I guess I just can't handle inaccurate information. @_@

[lfe.]

Originally Posted by alternarist

ya. it's all ur assumption. So u need to stop telling pple that whatever they say is "off by a bit" and whatever assumption u made "should be" considered right. I may be wrong. but i dont tell pple that their analysis is "off by a bit" and even worse, by correcting them. You need to learn how to accept other people's opinion.

You also need to know that this is an active discussion thread. So why do u constantly come up with ur antics of "no you are wrong" and "my assumptions shld be right"?

How to discuss?

I think you should calm down because you're acting more outrageously than you claim truehappiness is being

[maikaru]

It's just a video that appeared in a concert..
No need to get angry at each other. ahaha.
I think what he is trying to say about the phone is..
When the place you talk into is ripped off from the phone,
There's no electricity because it's been ripped from circuit..
So the electricity obviously cannot flow into the handle of the phone..
So he was just saying about how it's more likely to be strangle,
Because of that fact... that there should be no electricity into the phone.

but it's not a big deal... no matter how you interpret,
It's just a lead to the next song.. ahaha..
Time to make the peace!

[keikeiaznqueen]

Well, if the wire was connected to the circuit, even if it's not a complete circuit when it is disconnected, the circuit can be completed again when the wire touches Zin. So technically Zin could have been electricuted. (But I haven't watched the video in a while so I'm not too sure of which side of the broken wire Midoring had been holding. If the wire she was holding was connected to the negative terminal then I think yes, Zin could have been electricuted.)

I really liked the part when Ayu took the blame. She was the coolest one!!!!

[KarenPang]

Originally Posted by maikaru

It's just a video that appeared in a concert..
No need to get angry at each other. ahaha.
I think what he is trying to say about the phone is..
When the place you talk into is ripped off from the phone,
There's no electricity because it's been ripped from circuit..
So the electricity obviously cannot flow into the handle of the phone..
So he was just saying about how it's more likely to be strangle,
Because of that fact... that there should be no electricity into the phone.

but it's not a big deal... no matter how you interpret,
It's just a lead to the next song.. ahaha..
Time to make the peace!

haha that's true

anyway you don't win anything from this no matter how good/bad your interpret the particular scene when taskinst was being played in the ATOS DVD

[Bad Wolf]

Originally Posted by alternarist

ya. it's all ur assumption. So u need to stop telling pple that whatever they say is "off by a bit" and whatever assumption u made "should be" considered right. I may be wrong. but i dont tell pple that their analysis is "off by a bit" and even worse, by correcting them. You need to learn how to accept other people's opinion.

You also need to know that this is an active discussion thread. So why do u constantly come up with ur antics of "no you are wrong" and "my assumptions shld be right"?

How to discuss?

Um, but you were off by a bit because he couldn't have been electrocuted by a phone that wasn't connected to a power source. If it wasn't connected to a power source it doesn't have electricity. You were right that she killed him but just wrong with how she did it.

That's all.

[zoomzoom]

Originally Posted by lfebaggins

I think you should calm down because you're acting more outrageously than you claim truehappiness is being

He has a habit of that with people.

Anyway, yea she took the blame. And truehappiness was merely looking a little deeper into your analysis, rather than correcting, with the exception of the phone. Besides, does a public phone have enough power in it's circuit to electrocute a human being to death? Seems unlikely.

[maikaru]

How about we say the woman killed him magically with a phone,
One of the life's greatest mysteries that we'll never find out..
Cause you never know..
He could be the one SHU-YA shoots cause we don't see who he shoots, and she got soo happy to know that,
So she, with all her strong might, pulled the phone out, due to her having the strength of the hulk.
And then she is grinning evilly cause Ayumi is finally in jail, after she saw her take the gun from him.
Cause secretly she hates Ayumi cause she cut the fabric show from China part of the tour.

In that way, both theories become negative, and we can move peacefully towards accepting that...

That taskinst video was too violent to show in China, so they change it.
That would make a better discussion to kill eachother over.. =[

Maybe to fight over electric or phones or who killed who with what..
And trying to be defensive, all of it is not so good..
Be friends~~ ahaha. You can do it~

[majrakun]

^ lol. Yeah. Sure. Lets make more silly interpretations. That clip is sad though. Ayu sacrificed herself for love. At least the other dancers actually DID the crime. XD Haha.


I think the most logic thing is that all of them cheated on each other.

Oh yeah. Does anybody know how the china version of taskinst look like? 0____o