Does YESASIA count towards the sales for ORICON?

[URANUS]

I got a question! I have been a long time fan of YESASIA for a long time. I practically buy all my JPOP CDs there(Japan version). But i have been wondering if the japanese versions that i bought for YESASIA actually counts toward the oricon charts? I want to buy the product but i want to also support the artists. So does anyone know?

And how about CDJAPAN?

[Neil]

Ooo I doubt it. But it would be cool if it did

[Shiso]

None of them cout in the charts...

[nmskalmn]

Originally Posted by Shiso

None of them cout in the charts...

Why not and how do you know?

I would assume that they do. YesAsia and cdjapan are getting their supply of CDs from somewhere. I cannot imagine that the record labels would allow online sales to go uncounted.

[emi♡]

but if they counted them...wouldn't they also have to count all overseas sales too?

[Coelacanth]

Why doesn't someone talk to customer service and find out?

[nmskalmn]

Overseas versions are not included in the Oricon. Only the CDs made in Japan.

Does Oricon collect data from every single retailer? Or from the labels/CD distributors? If it's the latter, then the location of the retailer makes no difference at all.

[URANUS]

Yeah i thought someone would have asked the people from yesasia this question, considering we all would want the CDs that we bought to count towards the charts so we get the sense of having supported the artists that we liked.

I mean, if they sell some Japanese versions of the CDs, shouldn't they send back the receipt or something to the record label companies?

[Delirium-Zer0]

Oricon chart numbers are based on how many have been ordered from retailers. This was kind of a weird thing with ayu's H single because avex officially announced 1,000,000 copies had been sold before that many were actually in the hands of customers; that many had simply been ordered from avex distribution and put on retailers' shelves. The CD did eventually sell that much to actual PEOPLE, but it was kind of confusing for a little while. But i would imagine online cd stores' sales count, as yesasia and cdjapan and hmv all have to order the cds from distribution companies. They pay the label, and that's the revenue that the label gets. The transaction's over with the label. Any cd left in the store and unsold is simply a loss for the retailer.

[URANUS]

So they actually count the number of orders from the retailers and not the ones that are bought by the customers? That's really weird. I thought they do it differently here in the U.S. They actually have to sell them to the customers to count towards the sales.

[~K+]

Hang on, remember Utada's "Single Collection" was reportedly to have shipped 2,000,000 units in the first week and everybody mistook that for the sales, but in the end, the number of copies sold was in fact around 1,000,000.

Would that not mean, the amount ordered from the distributers is not what is used on Oricon?

[URANUS]

Originally Posted by ~K+

Hang on, remember Utada's "Single Collection" was reportedly to have shipped 2,000,000 units in the first week and everybody mistook that for the sales, but in the end, the number of copies sold was in fact around 1,000,000.

Would that not mean, the amount ordered from the distributers is not what is used on Oricon?

Hmm i'm pretty sure it was sold over 2 million copies. If Oricon uses the amount ordered from the distributers, that would be meaningless....I mean, what's meaningful is that the CD is actually sold to a customer, the fans.

[extepan]

in japan, i think it doesnt count, but i cant prove it

in britain i am sure online sales of a physical single doesnt count towards the charts, bt a downloadable single does.

[gakkun]

I'm pretty sure Oricon counts the sales as in bought by CUSTOMERS, because just as K said they sometimes announce the shipment number and then the actual sales number is totally different.

And I remember someone on board claiming that Oricon only surveys the largest 50% of distributors in Japan, which makes sense, so if Yesasia is relatively smaller then the sales they make wouldn't count. Some one should ask Yesasia about this...

[URANUS]

I would ask YesAsia but i can't an email to them. I checked the website and they don't provide any email for me to ask questions. Does anyone know where i can obtain the email address for customer service?

[URANUS]

Okay, i have sent them an email, hopefully they're respond soon.

[URANUS]

OKay, i have come to the conclusion that it ONLINE sales do not count toward ORICON.COM whatsoever----not that YesAsia gave me a response. They haven't yet.

The reason is because i checked ORICON---someone with better japanese understand, please make sure i'm right. Here is the website.

http://www2.oricon.co.jp/ranking/album_half.html

Scroll down to the bottom right---click on it and it will link you to this page which lists the music stores of the stores that count in the oricon charts.
http://www2.oricon.co.jp/ranking/maker.html#X

Am i right?

[Annabelle]

^ It's only a "record label abbreviation dictionnary" You know, these 3 letters beside the rankings? Ayu is "AVT", which means Avex Trax.

[gakkun]

Another thing about Oricon is it doesn't count online downloads. AI's recent single 'Story' broke the record as the most downloaded song (1 million+) but because it's only a single song so the actual CD 'single' didn't chart very high.

[Annabelle]

AI's "Story"'s single is selling 5 000 copies per week since May! Must be close to 500 000 copies by now. I believe 1st week was 85k and debuted in the top 10. If online DLs were counted it would be way more than a million..