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Old 7th June 2008, 10:35 AM
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taskinst vs. Don't tell me by Hoobastank



Even the part where it shifts into rock is the same... It'd be interesting to see how tasuku explains himself. XD

taskinst came out 6 months after the Hoobastank album [May 2006 -> Nov 2006] , but tasuku could've made it before then.

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Old 7th June 2008, 12:19 PM
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Gawd, that's... almost exactly the same X.x I really liked taskinst, but now it sorta lost its awesomeness for me.
I don't really think tasuku would deliberately copy someone this much. His explanation would most likely be something like he had heard this song somewhere and then he didn't remember he heard it somewhere and thought it was just pure genius inspiration that hit him... Or something like that.
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Old 7th June 2008, 12:21 PM
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yeah I've noticed this right away! I even posted it in some forums, but not here haha

it's another tone level, but the pauses and all are exactly the same.
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Old 7th June 2008, 12:32 PM
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YEAH it IS exactly the same.
But it is not ayu's fault as she has no inolvement in this.
that is only an interlude.
luckly.
(can u imagine what will happen if the same thing happen to one of her songs. eg 1 LOVE?)
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Old 7th June 2008, 12:34 PM
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uuh lame rip off!
whyyyyy??
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Old 7th June 2008, 12:39 PM
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woww that's slightly the same!!!!!!
just that Hoobastank one is lower a little bit...as for Taskint..higher note~
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Old 7th June 2008, 03:43 PM
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LULZ. tasuku, please explain.
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Old 7th June 2008, 04:24 PM
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Geez, TASUKU will be added to the "shameful, huh?" list along with GEO....what's wrong with these composers? Can't they do things on their own, just steal and take possesion of what other composers did?
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Old 7th June 2008, 04:30 PM
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This would be a perfect example of why Ayu should bring CREA back.
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Old 7th June 2008, 05:02 PM
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^Agreed! I want CREA back!
Is GEO who composed Free & Easy?
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Old 7th June 2008, 05:06 PM
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Old 7th June 2008, 05:28 PM
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Maybe Ayu found out, and that's why tasuku had no involvement in GUILTY. That's a shame, because he's an excellent arranger. As a composer.. not so great.
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Old 7th June 2008, 05:36 PM
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Woah, it's exactly the same, I was expecting better from Tasuku. I can't believe taskinst isn't his work.
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Old 7th June 2008, 05:44 PM
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^Agreed! I want CREA back!
Is GEO who composed Free & Easy?
LOL no. GEO composed Pride, which also sampled on another existing song.
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LOL no. GEO composed Pride, which also sampled on another existing song.
Oh I would love a new Pride-ish song! I love that one! ^^
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Old 7th June 2008, 06:19 PM
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This is quite surprising, and quite disappointing on tasuku's part. Maybe he did work on it before, but I don't really think so because Secret was a mini-album from the beginning, and when they changed it to a full album there must've been not much time left, so maybe he took some inspiration from this song? XD I still like the arrangement of taskinst, though.
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Old 7th June 2008, 06:49 PM
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LOL no. GEO composed Pride, which also sampled on another existing song.
GEO also composed a number of songs from (miss)understood, but Ayu got persmission to use those...

But, DANG, those songs sound EXACTLY the same. I mean, with the exception of pitch and some instruments, but other than that, the rhythm, sound, all of that is the same...wow. And, of course, there's no mention in the album about this.
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Old 7th June 2008, 06:55 PM
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I know it sounds, like, 98% alike, but there's no confirmation on whether or not tasuku completely took Hoobastank's work, right? I'm just saying, because some people seem to be jumping to conclusions.

Anyway, I never really liked "taskinst" in the first place, so it's not like I'm thinking, "Ohh, I've lost my love for it," you know? Now, if "tasking" was found to be copied, I'd be devastated. ()
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Old 7th June 2008, 06:57 PM
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Maybe Ayu found out, and that's why tasuku had no involvement in GUILTY. That's a shame, because he's an excellent arranger. As a composer.. not so great.
I definately side with you here, I suddenly realized how strange it was that TASUKU has had an intrelude on every album since I am...(minus, strangely, MY STORY, and Memorial address which has no interludes), and suddenly he's out of the picture on GUILTY. This almost makes me wonder about his other interludes...

It's upsetting though, especially because amongst ignorant fans, Ayu will be the one who's blamed.
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Old 7th June 2008, 07:15 PM
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GEO also composed a number of songs from (miss)understood, but Ayu got persmission to use those...
I know. I only mentioned Pride because so far it's the only GEO-ayu song that has been sampled from another existing song (Crucified) that I know of, apparently wiithout the permission of the original group who made the that song. However GEO has several non-ayu songs that sample on many existing songs in his SWEETBOX discography.
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