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Old 19th April 2005, 11:58 PM
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My Name´s WOMAN _my name´s ayu!

What did u guys think of the PV?
I was wondering here... i dind like.... I mean, teh music is really cool because they re-mixed the thing.
But I dont like when ayu play this SEXY lady, she is not like this.... i´m notsaying she is in real life, im talking abou PVs ok!! lol. I thin Kumi or othersinger can play better this part pf the game.

The could have done 1000 better thing to show how strong a woman is.
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Old 20th April 2005, 12:05 AM
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Basically, the song is about how people see girls as weak, not powerful, flirty, slu*ty maybe, that they only like cute things and stuff like that, but that it isn't true and that women can also be more powerful or equal than man, perhaps. The PV cleary showed that girls can also 'kick a man's ass'. Overall, it's about sexism. The PV had a point, but i think she didn't put a lot of that message into the PV.

At the start, we see those white women flirting with the guys, talking and stuff like that. When Ayu gets on the stage, and they react to that as if it hasn't something that is aloud to women, but men only. At the end, they soon realize that women can also do what any men can. This is how i see the PV.

I wanted more from nerdy Ayu though. And those dancers... argh.
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Old 20th April 2005, 12:15 AM
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You see the dancer guy basically ignore the cute/nerdy ayu? As if that a cute/nerdy girl didn't need/want/deserve to be flirted with and treated all sexy?

Then the cute/nerdy ayu 'leaves' and in comes this sexy, confident, flirt, I-can-kick-your-butt-even-though-I'm-a-women ayu comes in. She dances, looks sexy, flirts, doesn't give the guy the type of flirt sexy attention he wants from her.. but in the end, when the sexy Ayu is leaving.. you see the cute/nerdy ayu for a second?

I think it's like.. 'HEY! YOU! even though I am shy, nerdy, not overly outgoing, not all dressed up like the others.. DOESN'T mean I'm not a woman and that I can't be all those things.. because even if I look like I'm not I can still be sexy, strong, confidant, and it's not YOUR place to decide who can and cannot be that' a woman can be outgoing sexually, can dance and show her stuff. not just men
.. but maybe that's just me. I really like this PV, I really do like the sexier side of Ayu, although yes the nerdy/cute Ayu is adorable.. I like seeing a sexier side of her too. ^_^
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Old 20th April 2005, 12:18 AM
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You see the dancer guy basically ignore the cute/nerdy ayu? As if that a cute/nerdy girl didn't need/want/deserve to be flirted with and treated all sexy?

Then the cute/nerdy ayu 'leaves' and in comes this sexy, confident, flirt, I-can-kick-your-butt-even-though-I'm-a-women ayu comes in. She dances, looks sexy, flirts, doesn't give the guy the type of flirt sexy attention he wants from her.. but in the end, when the sexy Ayu is leaving.. you see the cute/nerdy ayu for a second?

I think it's like.. 'HEY! YOU! even though I am shy, nerdy, not overly outgoing, not all dressed up like the others.. DOESN'T mean I'm not a woman and that I can't be all those things.. because even if I look like I'm not I can still be sexy, strong, confidant, and it's not YOUR place to decide who can and cannot be that' a woman can be outgoing sexually, can dance and show her stuff. not just men
.. but maybe that's just me. I really like this PV, I really do like the sexier side of Ayu, although yes the nerdy/cute Ayu is adorable.. I like seeing a sexier side of her too. ^_^
Yes, exactly! I agree on how you see the PV.
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You see the dancer guy basically ignore the cute/nerdy ayu? As if that a cute/nerdy girl didn't need/want/deserve to be flirted with and treated all sexy?

Then the cute/nerdy ayu 'leaves' and in comes this sexy, confident, flirt, I-can-kick-your-butt-even-though-I'm-a-women ayu comes in. She dances, looks sexy, flirts, doesn't give the guy the type of flirt sexy attention he wants from her.. but in the end, when the sexy Ayu is leaving.. you see the cute/nerdy ayu for a second?

I think it's like.. 'HEY! YOU! even though I am shy, nerdy, not overly outgoing, not all dressed up like the others.. DOESN'T mean I'm not a woman and that I can't be all those things.. because even if I look like I'm not I can still be sexy, strong, confidant, and it's not YOUR place to decide who can and cannot be that' a woman can be outgoing sexually, can dance and show her stuff. not just men
.. but maybe that's just me. I really like this PV, I really do like the sexier side of Ayu, although yes the nerdy/cute Ayu is adorable.. I like seeing a sexier side of her too. ^_^
i totally agree with your P.O.V. Yukiko-chan!!! i think the PV is more like a rebellion towards typical sterotypes towards women!!! i really like the pv...ahahahaha...at first i was shocked at the sexy AYU but as the PV progressed...it's nice...very fun to watch

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Old 20th April 2005, 03:16 AM
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I'm not a fan of women (that is the SONG in question btw), and that 's a big downer because the PV is nearly 9 mins long! Thank goodness it's got 'two-parts' to the PV. The camera angles, settings, costumes, makeup etc. are very very good indeed and varied, but the main part of the PV conveys a real one dimensional message in the near, what, lets say 7 minutes. I get bored of things pretty quick, but maybe that's my problem.

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You see the dancer guy basically ignore the cute/nerdy ayu? As if that a cute/nerdy girl didn't need/want/deserve to be flirted with and treated all sexy?

Then the cute/nerdy ayu 'leaves' and in comes this sexy, confident, flirt, I-can-kick-your-butt-even-though-I'm-a-women ayu comes in. She dances, looks sexy, flirts, doesn't give the guy the type of flirt sexy attention he wants from her.. but in the end, when the sexy Ayu is leaving.. you see the cute/nerdy ayu for a second?

I think it's like.. 'HEY! YOU! even though I am shy, nerdy, not overly outgoing, not all dressed up like the others.. DOESN'T mean I'm not a woman and that I can't be all those things.. because even if I look like I'm not I can still be sexy, strong, confidant, and it's not YOUR place to decide who can and cannot be that' a woman can be outgoing sexually, can dance and show her stuff. not just men
.. but maybe that's just me. I really like this PV, I really do like the sexier side of Ayu, although yes the nerdy/cute Ayu is adorable.. I like seeing a sexier side of her too. ^_^
That is an excellent observation.

AHAHA, the GUY! It was rather creepy. Ayu MAN.
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You see the dancer guy basically ignore the cute/nerdy ayu? As if that a cute/nerdy girl didn't need/want/deserve to be flirted with and treated all sexy?

Then the cute/nerdy ayu 'leaves' and in comes this sexy, confident, flirt, I-can-kick-your-butt-even-though-I'm-a-women ayu comes in. She dances, looks sexy, flirts, doesn't give the guy the type of flirt sexy attention he wants from her.. but in the end, when the sexy Ayu is leaving.. you see the cute/nerdy ayu for a second?

I think it's like.. 'HEY! YOU! even though I am shy, nerdy, not overly outgoing, not all dressed up like the others.. DOESN'T mean I'm not a woman and that I can't be all those things.. because even if I look like I'm not I can still be sexy, strong, confidant, and it's not YOUR place to decide who can and cannot be that' a woman can be outgoing sexually, can dance and show her stuff. not just men
.. but maybe that's just me. I really like this PV, I really do like the sexier side of Ayu, although yes the nerdy/cute Ayu is adorable.. I like seeing a sexier side of her too. ^_^

Exactly exactly. At first I was very much like... "wtf...!?" But by the end of it I was impressed. Women standing on their own terms and being able to stand up to men like they should be. I'm not how sure I am about showing it to people who don't know the lyrics, but as a whole I thought it was a good PV. You really need to know the song to understand the message presented.
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Old 20th April 2005, 12:24 AM
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I anticipate this PV to receive the most negative/mixed responses because it's so out there for Ayumi Hamasaki; it's not something we've seen of her before. The provacative dancing, the whips, etc. Coupled with the fact that some don't care for the song.

I think it's good to have tried something new, though. Variety is the spice of life, yes? Was it deep? No, not really.
Was it entertaining? Absolutely.

I was impressed by almost everything, from how they mixed up the song to how well they established the song's point. Ayu posesses a fierceness and passion in this PV that's just remarkable, and the expression of that was very well done.
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I anticipate this PV to receive the most negative/mixed responses because it's so out there for Ayumi Hamasaki; it's not something we've seen of her before. The provacative dancing, the whips, etc. Coupled with the fact that some don't care for the song.
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I'm sure it will still probably get alot of negative responses.. more so because of her sexiness in the video. From what I've noticed while reading around.. people aren't open to the idea of Ayu being sexy like all of a sudden. They'd prefer cuteyness although there are some people that don't care for her cuteness either.

I'm also glad she tried something new like you said, this video is ALOT different than many of the PV's of Ayu's I've seen.. and it's a wonderful thing.
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I'm also glad she tried something new like you said, this video is ALOT different than many of the PV's of Ayu's I've seen.. and it's a wonderful thing.
changes are good! AYU can't be cute forever.
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From what I've noticed while reading around.. people aren't open to the idea of Ayu being sexy like all of a sudden. They'd prefer cuteyness although there are some people that don't care for her cuteness either.
I agree. I mean, come on now! The woman is 26. She can't be cute all her life. One day, she'll have to get in touch with her sexy side. And that's now!

She's no longer a girl.
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I agree. I mean, come on now! The woman is 26. She can't be cute all her life. One day, she'll have to get in touch with her sexy side. And that's now!

She's no longer a girl.
lolz tats true but just becuz shes older dan she was b4 doesnt mean she cant still act CUTE!!!oh well.... but if shes gonna start acting like britney spears den i think shes gonna lose alotta fans..... or the other way around.... though really.... u dont want her to become just .. ****ty! She can still b cute... she can be cute and .... at the same time!><"
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lolz tats true but just becuz shes older dan she was b4 doesnt mean she cant still act CUTE!!!oh well.... but if shes gonna start acting like britney spears den i think shes gonna lose alotta fans..... or the other way around.... though really.... u dont want her to become just .. ****ty! She can still b cute... she can be cute and .... at the same time!><"
I don't think she acted like Britney Spears o.O; I mean I've seen Britney running around with..er very flashy clothes while Ayu's dress was rather decent in my opinion but still sexy. Plus a person cannot be cute forever.
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Old 20th April 2005, 12:40 AM
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I'm sure it will still probably get alot of negative responses.. more so because of her sexiness in the video. From what I've noticed while reading around.. people aren't open to the idea of Ayu being sexy like all of a sudden. They'd prefer cuteyness although there are some people that don't care for her cuteness either.

I'm also glad she tried something new like you said, this video is ALOT different than many of the PV's of Ayu's I've seen.. and it's a wonderful thing.
Yeah it IS wordefull.. Please do not misunderstand me ok^^" I just thought maybe the pv could have be done other way.... BUT im not saying that it is bad....
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Yeah it IS wordefull.. Please do not misunderstand me ok^^" I just thought maybe the pv could have be done other way.... BUT im not saying that it is bad....
^_^;; calm down hun, my post wasn't targeted at anyone. It was just my opinion that although it was different for Ayu, very sexy and out there compared to her normal.. I think it is a wonderful thing. (despite knowing that there will be people who totally hate it for her 'over' sexiness)
You are right, the PV could have been done other ways that would have worked just fine..
However, I don't mind the way it is at all. ^_^
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Old 20th April 2005, 01:07 AM
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I don't mind Ayumi being sexy and all, but I didn't like the sexual tones in this PV. Whips? Exotic dancers? It's too...'suggestive' for me to handle -_- I mean, there's more to women empowerment than just being...um, 'sexually' powerful, so as a female I don't really like such suggestiveness of this PV -_-
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I'm sure it will still probably get alot of negative responses.. more so because of her sexiness in the video. From what I've noticed while reading around.. people aren't open to the idea of Ayu being sexy like all of a sudden. They'd prefer cuteyness although there are some people that don't care for her cuteness either.
I think that is kind of Ayu's point in these videos though. Especially in the Step YOU PV. She's saying that everybody sees her as one thing - usually the cute side of her. But that that is only a PART of her personality. She can't just be all cute, all the time just to please everyone because that's not all of who she is. There are 4 parts to her personality and she wants to be accepted as a complete person, not just a cute one. That's what I think anyway.

Also, and I stated this in another thread too, I didn't find this PV overly sexy. This video is playful and entertaining, but everytime a guy comes near her she pushes him away - this ain't no Christina Aguilera, "Dirty" type of video.
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I anticipate this PV to receive the most negative/mixed responses because it's so out there for Ayumi Hamasaki; it's not something we've seen of her before. The provacative dancing, the whips, etc. Coupled with the fact that some don't care for the song.

I think it's good to have tried something new, though. Variety is the spice of life, yes? Was it deep? No, not really.
Was it entertaining? Absolutely.

I was impressed by almost everything, from how they mixed up the song to how well they established the song's point. Ayu posesses a fierceness and passion in this PV that's just remarkable, and the expression of that was very well done.
Yeah it was pretty impressive! Unfortunately a lot of people will just look at it as something "skanky". I think she actually portraied everything with style. And Yukiko-Chan I agree with everything you've said so far
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This is a very sultry PV. O_o
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I liked this video the most out of the three new ones that came out. However, there seemed to be a lot of contradictions starting with the atmosphere. It looks like the director wanted to capture a 20's/vintage vibe initially but not all the women were dressed up like that and so that basically failed, lol.

I LOVE Ayumi's hair and hair accessories (were they earrings? or something attached to the back of her head). It looked like the guys were the sexual objects in the beginning, so I think the 'feminist' or 'girl power' message really goes astray because Ayumi & the 2 dancers become the spectacle. In the end, you're a strong woman because you can engage in S&M? lol. I love the video but the message that I think was supposed to be sent (i.e. women can be strong, can be anything, etc) goes off in the wrong direction.

re: the guys in the video. The white guy doorman was kind of hot, hotter than all the other guys in the PV anyway. Everyone had tight bodies, so I was appreciating that. ^^ Woohoo, man-candy.
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