[NEWS] Eason Chan critcises Ayu of Lip-synching

[mikewallace]

Originally Posted by Keishi

I'm surprised no moderator has taken care of this thread. I know that he insulted Ayu, but this thread has gone far too much that everyone is flaming at Eason.

There's nothing wrong if everyone's flaming a loser like Eason. If everybody was flaming each other, then the mods would probably react. Fortuantly there aren't too many Eaton fans here.

[ayujarl]

Grasshopper basically have no news for themselves, so just wanna be seen on newpapers, they're so cheap.

Eason's been taking drugs for long, his words are to be discarded.

[Qt Mashi]

Originally Posted by Keishi

Does that mean you guys understand what it feels when someone just insult your favorite artist?

come on Eason and his crew started first, this thread will never be enough to make up for what he said about Ayu to the media omfg

and look here!! Alan Tam is lipsynching, u can tell because his mic is like above his smelly mouth and his voice is still so stable like CD quality




lol i don't even know if this guy is Alan Tam i just imaged searched him on google, but let's just say he is for the sake of it

[yamogi]

Originally Posted by M.A.X.

lol ^^ I know what I say, many friends think like me but many many fans doesn't believe us, it's ok. I would like Ayumi say a declaration about declarations but she will not. And if she will, she will confirm that sometimes she use playback but I doubt !

You know, when they put a concert on dvd, the first thing they do is to "normalize" the vocal as well as background music, therefore sometimes they don't seem lives.(normalize volume is making each part being at CONSTANT volume, it just like what they do to studio recording)

Common people used to determine whether it is live or by volume fluctuations. They THINK if there are volume fluctuations, that is live and vice visa.However, I must say that it is quite a misconception because normalization already eliminate volume fluctuations.

"Normalize" is actually a common technique in studio. They do the same to CD and tour DVD(in japan's case). That's why, you may sometimes find that the same song sung in TV live and DVD live sounds differently. Further, people sometimes even "erase" off-key notes. (Such kind of technique is extremely common and normal in post-processing.)

Take momets in ARENA tour 2003-2004 as example(it has been sung once/twice only over the tour). I have its REAL live recording(by cellphone), it sounds nothing like the one in DVD besides you can still distinguish they come from the same source. The one on DVD sounds perfect but the REAL one sounds...strange.




The only difference between post-processing of CD and that of DVD is that people don't make that much changes(modifications) as they make at CD.

[Keishi]

Oh well. I just don't want you guys waste time too much on hating Eason if you guys can simply spend the time to give love to Ayu.

[4ever*ayu]

Originally Posted by babamon

不老神话草蜢举行签唱会 暗示滨崎步假唱

[04月09日香港讯]草蜢“Forever Grasshopper Collection”签唱会昨日(4月9日)举行，三子又唱又跳，并唱新歌《Forever》，阿智强调 他们没有对口型，似暗示陈奕迅爆日本天后滨崎步对口型的事，杰仔为了能有助事业迈向国际，故改名为木慧一杰 。杰仔透露早前卜卦，相士指他的名字应有个“木”字，故决定改名为“木慧一杰”，相士指这个名可助他蜚星国 际。

对于eason指滨崎步对口型一事，草蜢三子表示未看过滨崎步的演唱会，只是看到报道。阿智說：「大家不要 以為我們『咪嘴』，我們不似外國來的那些人，我們是真材實料！」谈及不少滨崎步的fans不满eason的 言论，致电报馆投诉闹Eason。阿智支持eason说：“报导指滨崎步唱歌时没有索气，以他们的经验来说 ，像他们练得这样辛苦，一定会索气的。

Basically the grasshopper group are telling everyone not to think that they lip-sync, as they are not like those foreigners as they are made of the real stuff.

And according to their experience, it's kinda impossible not to be gasping for air when u're dancing so much.

i did see these three caveman on HK TV celebs news or something like that,
they look really proud of 'emself(i don't see anything to be proud of from them), i mean if you have the bigger pic of this, the caveman on the left-end is wearing a shorts("cool fashion" bahhahaha LOL, i think he want to be a trendsetter, LOL evnmore)
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[salmon]

those ppl are really damm too much...

eason chan .... go and eat your tim sum...

grasshopper .. worst... eat grass .. EAT GRASS!

[hiroshi_ben]

^lol agree!squeeze one whole lots of ***** into their dirty mouths!am i going too much?hahaXD

[Qt Mashi]

Originally Posted by salmon

those ppl are really damm too much...

eason chan .... go and eat your tim sum...

grasshopper .. worst... eat grass .. EAT GRASS!

no... u are too nice to them, Eason should eat more bull balls

grasshopper should eat grasshopper poop

btw wat is tim sum?

[ayu_alanis]

Originally Posted by M.A.X.

lol ^^ I know what I say, many friends think like me but many many fans doesn't believe us, it's ok.

Surely many of your friends (I may think they are french and never saw Ayumi in a real concert) believe that Ayumi uses playback a lot. I really don’t know where they found this, since many people who actually went to Ayumi concerts (fans???), said again and again that it’s not true. But let’s them think what they would like to think… it’s ok for me too (maybe not :p). Anyway it’s quite funny, Ayumi is lip-synching, but at the same time, Ayumi is always off-key, and Ayumi forgets her lyrics, and Ayumi is crying during her songs…

No offence M.A.X. but I am tired of the "playback" debate which run around all french websites and forums, will you and your friends realize that you can't judge on DVD?

Your list of “playback” is amazing and quite funny.

For example:

Originally Posted by M.A.X.

Countdown live 2004-2005 : M, evolution, AUDIENCE, independent

Why not, but since I was there I can affirm that it was not in playback. And I have a proof of that, during independent, Ayumi felt dizzy a little. I saw and heard it immediately during the concert, when you know where it is you can hear it in her voice on the TV version, I don’t remember for the DVD. I may think that it is very to notice it if you don’t know where it is, but it was live.
For AUDIENCE and evolution, no way! It was obvious that it was live! There is the voice of Ayumi in playback, as always but Ayumi sung over it, as always but it’s live.
For M, I know why you think that, anyway it’s not true; you hear a difference between duty and M because Ayumi have changed her microphone between the 2 songs...

I will stop here.

Ayumi lip-synchs sometimes (it is the case for Ladies night yes), but only few times. The problem when you say lip-synching is that everybody will thing that she can’t sing, but what I can affirm after seeing her 10 times in concert, is that she can sing very very well in live even if she is dancing at the same time (well she can also sing bad… but now a day it is quite rare).

Finally, as said yamogi on DVD the vocals are normalized, but even in TV version there is some filters… We can’t judge on DVD… So I don’t know about the concert of Hong-Kong, I’m waiting for the opinion of people who went there.

[freedreamer]

i still dont get how:
he can be tired
and concentrated in that kind of noise
and tell it was lip-synching
and he doesnt even listen to most of her songs...

well, i think people are just pissed because its so groundless (yes its an opinion...but a false wan)

[salmon]

Originally Posted by Qt Mashi

no... u are too nice to them, Eason should eat more bull balls

grasshopper should eat grasshopper poop

btw wat is tim sum?

Dim sum is a Chinese light meal... taste good ... V popular in Hong Kong
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim-sum

should give eason a big bun to shut his mouth up and apologies to ayu.

[hiroshi_ben]

Originally Posted by Qt Mashi

no... u are too nice to them, Eason should eat more bull balls

grasshopper should eat grasshopper poop

btw wat is tim sum?

huh u r from hong kong rite?u should know wat is tim sum~it's something like a breakfast which r steamed~there are many varieites to choose from~fish ball etc~and each of them will be placed ina round shape bamboo(or wooden) plate~chee cheong fun is also part of tim sum i guess~

[Qt Mashi]

Originally Posted by hiroshi_ben

huh u r from hong kong rite?u should know wat is tim sum~it's something like a breakfast which r steamed~there are many varieites to choose from~fish ball etc~and each of them will be placed ina round shape bamboo(or wooden) plate~chee cheong fun is also part of tim sum i guess~

lol yes i thought it's spelt as "Dim Sum" but how come u spelt it as "Tim Sum"? and why give Eason some yummy Dim Sum? hehe

[haruki]

wow... this is really HOT! flaming HOT!! :p

nah, let's see, recall how eason insulted the andy lau, jacky cheong, leon lai and aaron kwok last time? same old technique... how uncreative...

[freedreamer]

so basically he is a big critic huh? i heard he always does it

[hiroshi_ben]

Originally Posted by Qt Mashi

lol yes i thought it's spelt as "Dim Sum" but how come u spelt it as "Tim Sum"? and why give Eason some yummy Dim Sum? hehe

haha cuz we spelt it according to wat we had heard...i seldom follow the original spelling~sorry for making u confused~lol

hmm well...some fried cockroaches instead?or some worms?


wah stop saying dim sum...i feel like eating it now...yummy!

[salmon]

Originally Posted by haruki

wow... this is really HOT! flaming HOT!! :p

nah, let's see, recall how eason insulted the andy lau, jacky cheong, leon lai and aaron kwok last time? same old technique... how uncreative...

wa ...
andy lau
arron kwok...

these ppl are great...

very mean of him to insult like that...

[salmon]

Originally Posted by hiroshi_ben

haha cuz we spelt it according to wat we had heard...i seldom follow the original spelling~sorry for making u confused~lol

hmm well...some fried cockroaches instead?or some worms?


wah stop saying dim sum...i feel like eating it now...yummy!

hahahas .. maybe one day we meet out eat dim sum ?
seems ayu loves it too... saw her eating alot behind the stages

[hiroshi_ben]

well...more fried cockroaches to his mouth then!!!!Anyway it's good if he can just keep quiet and dun say anything!because everything he commented about an artist seems to be so rude and unprofessional!