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Old 21st July 2010, 01:26 AM
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There's nothing I hate more than "rushed" ayu releases. You can always tell in the finished product...
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Old 21st July 2010, 01:53 AM
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^ Hmm, I can't at all with her music, since even songs she composed (which I think are some of her best songs) were pretty much rushed.
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Old 21st July 2010, 01:56 AM
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Secret was totally rushed and you can tell. I mean I like it... but the full production isn't there in a lot of the songs. Don't feel 100% as they could have been.
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^ Hmm, I can't at all with her music, since even songs she composed (which I think are some of her best songs) were pretty much rushed.
I agree, mostly...

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Secret was totally rushed and you can tell. I mean I like it... but the full production isn't there in a lot of the songs. Don't feel 100% as they could have been.
I only feel like it was in Momentum. I also don't like the title-track very much. Other than that, it's as good as any other ayu album, IMO.
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Old 21st July 2010, 02:03 AM
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Secret was totally rushed and you can tell. I mean I like it... but the full production isn't there in a lot of the songs. Don't feel 100% as they could have been.
Secret is one of my favorite albums, and it didn't seem the least bit rushed to me. But here's why: at the time, I wasn't up to date and following her singles releases nor her albums. I first listened to Secret in early 2007, and I just fell in love with it. Overall, a fantastic album for most who listens to it without having heard any of the pre-released singles on it. That was my experience anyway If I had been following her, and listening to the singles a million times before the album came out, I would have felt like it certainly needed a lot "more".
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Old 21st July 2010, 02:07 AM
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No way momentum was good!

1 LOVE, JEWEL, and momentum were produced very well, as those were the songs to be included in the "mini-album" (most speculate).

Until that Day... and Kiss o' Kill are both harsher in production. They are good songs, but don't sound as "polished" as 1 LOVE, JEWEL and momentum.

Don't get me wrong, I love Secret. But I can't help but think how much better even the good songs could have been.

And yes, the title track "Secret" is boring.
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Old 21st July 2010, 02:08 AM
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I actually thought the singles for Secret were kind of weak, the album tracks = though
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Old 21st July 2010, 02:09 AM
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Secret was totally rushed and you can tell. I mean I like it... but the full production isn't there in a lot of the songs. Don't feel 100% as they could have been.
Are you serious? Secret is a masterpiece! It's probably one of the few albums I can listen to from start to finish. Sometimes I feel like if Ayu says, "Oh yeah we really rushed to get this album done" fans say "[insert whatever here] SOUNDS SO RUSHED YOU CAN SO TELL!!!" But if Ayu were to say "I've been preparing for this album for a long time" fans would turn around and say, "Why can't she take her time with all her music so they can be masterpieces like [the same insert whatever here]" Ayu is known to rush almost all of her music and yet it still comes out amazing (or not amazing depending on taste). But in Secret alone, there is maybe ONE filler song, it was. Which I personally don't think is but whatever. But ever other track on that album is top notch. But hey, if you say it sounds rushed, then it sounds rushed.
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No way momentum was good!

1 LOVE, JEWEL, and momentum were produced very well, as those were the songs to be included in the "mini-album" (most speculate).

Until that Day... and Kiss o' Kill are both harsher in production. They are good songs, but don't sound as "polished" as 1 LOVE, JEWEL and momentum.

Don't get me wrong, I love Secret. But I can't help but think how much better even the good songs could have been.

And yes, the title track "Secret" is boring.
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I actually thought the singles for Secret were kind of weak, the album tracks = though
I love both the album tracks and single tracks. I generally love all songs on the album (even Beautiful Fighters and Secret) though there was a couple I felt were a bit so-so (momentum and Born To Be...; but they're good songs anyhow!).
Since the head phones on my computer are all wonky and all I can hear from the "crossroad" chaku-uta is background buzz and some kind of ticking/dripping whatever, I have no opinion yet. And I'm planning to not listen to "crossroad" until at least a MQ leak gets out.
Chaku-utas aren't my preference: hated the chaku-utas for GREEN and BALLAD; but listening to them in full, I love them SO MUCH! ♥♥
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Old 21st July 2010, 02:17 AM
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I love It Was! It's a mellow-er track but it doesn't cross the fine line of "mellow=boring" - it has just the right balance. I love the Island Mix too! So great to listen to on a Summer day (I actually brought my iPod out on a paddle boat this Summer and listened to it on a nice sunny day, just lounging in the middle of the lake - it was perfect!).
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Old 21st July 2010, 02:28 AM
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I actually thought the singles for Secret were kind of weak, the album tracks = though
Totally agree. And this opinion comes from not knowing what the singles were prior to listening. Startin/Born to be... and BLUE BIRD were good but momentum, JEWEL, Kiss o Kill, 1 LOVE, and It was.... were just incredible.

About the "rushed" thing, I honestly don't get that argument at all. Looking at how her release schedule has been since the beginning, you can say that pretty much ALL her albums were rushed. It wasn't until GUILTY that she really started slowing down. In all honesty, since I prefer her older works I think it's good that she's going back to releasing things within months of each other. If stuff like MOON/blossom (which I've been loving ever since I received it yesterday ) is the result then I'm all for it. Hell, maybe since things are moving so fast again, CREA will hop on for the ride.
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Old 21st July 2010, 02:42 AM
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No way momentum was good!

1 LOVE, JEWEL, and momentum were produced very well, as those were the songs to be included in the "mini-album" (most speculate).

Until that Day... and Kiss o' Kill are both harsher in production. They are good songs, but don't sound as "polished" as 1 LOVE, JEWEL and momentum.

Don't get me wrong, I love Secret. But I can't help but think how much better even the good songs could have been.

And yes, the title track "Secret" is boring.
Lol. Wtf are u listening to (don't worry I get its just ur opinion)? How is kiss o' kill and until that day less polished than jewel, 1 love etc.
The arrangements are perfect. Kiss o kill especially. The song is constantly changing. It sounds like way more effort than jewel and momentum
Same for until that day so many little details I could pick out. I'm always too observant of these things though. Lyrically fantastic though too.
Secret (one of the like 3 songs from her that can't give me a headache). U have to have a certain appreciate for slow beautiful songs like that. The composition is so perfection.
T.T secret easily ranks in my least fav ayu albums. But I adore it


I think ayu has has a lot of rushed things. Especially in the past. But they sound fine ^____^
I expect her to pull through for these singles. She's proved before as hard as it is
God I seriously need more info on this single. It really interests me now.
Like it has that simple arrangement feel. With drums etc. But I'd rather have a serious rock song than anymore rock-influenced ballads
Forget pop at this point. What owns her little pop songs is trance. Another cconnected would make my whole next 5 yrs ^___^
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Old 21st July 2010, 02:47 AM
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Can someone delete or remove some off-topic messages? This is a thread for 49th single but not the conversation for if Secret was a rush album. Thanks.
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Old 21st July 2010, 02:49 AM
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i hate momentum. cry cry cry, snow snow snow, lost love lost love lost love. yeah ok....
the song is boring and sounds unoriginal. I would probably like secret as a whole if she kept it as a mini album. no idea why this is brought up though.

I just think that she should release the next two singles before october if she wants to keep this as a consecutive single release pattern.
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Old 21st July 2010, 03:00 AM
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lol most of all of her singles / albums could be rushed. She release an album and a couple of singles, every year since 1998.
Ok some songs and albums (just GUILTY imo) are kinda rushed but her songs are way better than songs released after months or years, sometimes.
Lol may I'm acting like a fangirl, but that's true
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i hate momentum. cry cry cry, snow snow snow, lost love lost love lost love. yeah ok....
the song is boring and sounds unoriginal. I would probably like secret as a whole if she kept it as a mini album. no idea why this is brought up though.

I just think that she should release the next two singles before october if she wants to keep this as a consecutive single release pattern.
I believe all.night.raver brought it up as an example of what he thinks is a rushed ayu work that couldve been better. And that he hopes the singles aren't like this

Although I though a lot of her stuff is rushed in past so I don't see why this matters.

I sat bring this single on. Although releasing within 3 months is a bit impossible if she is to maintain her streak.
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Old 21st July 2010, 03:42 AM
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We have to understand that her recent singles have been released some two months after an announcement by Avex is made, so "crossroad" may not even be released until like sometime mid-late September or even October...

And then, by October, they would announce Ayu's 50th single, maybe for a December release date...
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I agree on the tracks for Secret being rushed except for the song Secret itself. That song was gorgeous. Sept. 1? If I were avex I'd keep an eye out for AKB48's Watarirouka Hashiritai's new single. Their singles have been selling like crap compared to Ayu but who knows how much more popular AKB48 will have grown by that time.
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I agree on the tracks for Secret being rushed except for the song Secret itself. That song was gorgeous. Sept. 1? If I were avex I'd keep an eye out for AKB48's Watarirouka Hashiritai's new single. Their singles have been selling like crap compared to Ayu but who knows how much more popular AKB48 will have grown by that time.
AKB48 is also set to release a single on October 27th and also another one sometime in December; both releases do not have a title yet, but we will have to see about that. Avex might have to keep an eye out on that, as recently they're selling HOT stuff there.
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i hate momentum. cry cry cry, snow snow snow, lost love lost love lost love. yeah ok....
the song is boring and sounds unoriginal. I would probably like secret as a whole if she kept it as a mini album. no idea why this is brought up though.

I just think that she should release the next two singles before october if she wants to keep this as a consecutive single release pattern.
Omg yes, and I hate when people compare momentum to M and say things like "momentum is M part 2" or "momentum is like M plus 100%."
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