～POWER of MUSIC～ 2011 A LIMITED EDITION setlists, photos, and etc. [IV]

[RayJason]

Originally Posted by isthisLOL?

Really? And you can tell that by comparing a low quality LIVE stream to a high quality, edited TV/DVD-release for which they had all the time in the world to apply unnoticable changes? The Mirrorcle World performance you think is so amazing isn't even one performance, at least two different dates were cut together for the video, where is your proof that the same didn't happen for the audio? They could easily take the best parts of 2,3 4 or even more dates and cut them together, then put a slight autotuner on, run it through a compressor and get to perfect vocals. All not as possible with a live broadcast(actually, the sound proves there are neither autotuners nor compressors(the two main electronic tricks to make voices sound better) on PoM, because their effects are simply not there, while, considering the level of Ayu's vocals in 2008 and the MW performances she did live on TV, those were both most certainly used on a-nation 2008).
Or do you think the reverb was a vocal effect? That probably is a result of the way the audience sound was mixed in and simply the sound dynamics of the arena.

My god, this person comes with "where is your proof". Are you serious???!

I said I THINK, I never made any statements....

[isthisLOL?]

Sorry for derailing the thread like this, but this person just annoys me with his attitude and the "oh, but it's only an opinion" way of backing out of what he said while basically completely ignoring the content of other people's responses and overlooking everything he has no response for.

Originally Posted by RayJason

My god, this person comes with "where is your proof". Are you serious???!

I said I THINK, I never made any statements....

Every expressed thought is a statement, but saying "I think" and then saying something that is simply not subjective just to back out of explaining how you got to that conclusion by saying it's "just a thought" is stupid.
So basically you are saying your thoughts have no essence, since you have no reasoning to them(or are not willing to share your reasoning with us)?
You brought your thought up in a discussion, thereby you turned it into an argument as to why the a-nation 2008 performance was better or worse than the PoM performance. If you bring up an argument be prepared to defend it or don't bring it up at all.

It's like saying "I think she was lipsynching" when a performance was obviously live(happened on AHS before, performances full of off notes, even with mistakes in the lyrics, were accused of being lipsynched). If it's "just a thought" and you can't prove it, even worse you don't even have any evidence for it, no reasoning that makes sense, there is no reason to bring it up in the first place, it will only piss people off and in the end it won't get anyone anywhere because well.."it's just a thought". It's a devaluing statement made seemingly less offensive and important by an "I think" placed in front of it. So the poster feels noone can attack it because "it's just a thought!" and everybody is free to think whatever they want to think, right?

Keep your thoughts to things that either are subjective or you have reasoning for. You can be subjective on how you like an Ayu release, think as much as you want about that, post as many of those thoughts as you want to, no matter if good or bad, and I won't mind because it's a very subjective thing. But this is just you trying to feel untouchable because it's simply not a thing of opinion. Either you have reasoning or you don't. If you have that's good, if you don't there's no reason to even comment on it.

[RayJason]

Originally Posted by isthisLOL?

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Sorry guys, this is the last time that I go off topic.

Spoiler:

I so disagree with every little thing you just said there... You seem to be annoyed with me because I basically didn't responded towards your 1st post which was meant for me. Well, It's just that you made a very umm. how to put this, ... STUPID IGNORANT statement about western people what made me realize that you are far from reasonable. And calling a loose thought stupid proves to me how reasonable you really are.

Now, you come with this explanation where it seems that you think that I'm someone who doesn't knows the rules.

About the "untouchable" part; You have no idea how wrong you are on that. You should question whether it's me or you pretending to behave that way.

About me "turning the subject" this is also false, I found it worth to note that ayu uses an different vocal technique when singing songs like Mirrorcle World. What?! Do you want me to talk about the effects she has applied to her voice the whole time?? It's not like I completely went to another topic, + I even continued talking about it, so I really don't see what's your burden.
I always stand behind what I say, unless someone can proves that I am wrong, and that did not happen, so therefor no reason to drop a subject.

For your information, Whoever says anything in this forum can do it based on their thoughts, knowledge etc etc. Why would I have to prove something, and especially towards a person that says it like this: "Where is your proof?", what do you think that this is? CSI, NCIS or whatever?