『A SUMMER BEST』8. August 2012 ~III~

[Zeke.]

Originally Posted by isthisLOL?

Maro's chest is godly.

Are you serious? Lol, props on the abs but his chest is severely under-developed.

[ohsixthirty]

Originally Posted by Zeke.

Are you serious? Lol, props on the abs but his chest is severely under-developed.

haha, looks better than most of ours!

[TeamAyu2004]

Originally Posted by Zeke.

Are you serious? Lol, props on the abs but his chest is severely under-developed.

agreed.

and the good news about being sold out?
She is more popular then people think she is??

[emi♡]

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004

She is more popular then people think she is??

Publicity stunt


lol j/k.

[isthisLOL?]

Originally Posted by Zeke.

Are you serious? Lol, props on the abs but his chest is severely under-developed.

I prefer it like that. There is no completely universal ideal of beauty especially when it comes to muscle definition - just ask bodybuilders and they will all focus on something different. And that's already one niche group only.

[TeamAyu2004]

^ I know know! Thats why i said all of japan is in on it.
I dont even think avex is considered that big of a company... isn't it still technically an independent company? (meaning not a big time company, Sony, Universal, WB... which come to think of it, the only difference is that those three are international the world over.)

Originally Posted by isthisLOL?

I prefer it like that. There is no completely universal ideal of beauty especially when it comes to muscle definition - just ask bodybuilders and they will all focus on something different. And that's already one niche group only.

he wasnt talking about beauty... he was saying that the chest is underdeveloped, which his chest is small compared to some people and not as defined as his abs, hence the comment.

[isthisLOL?]

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004

he wasnt talking about beauty... he was saying that the chest is underdeveloped, which his chest is small compared to some people and not as defined as his abs, hence the comment.

He was questioning my beauty ideals openly in his post ("are you serious?") and used his subjective ideal of developed(there is no objective "underdeveloped" as not everybody strives to reach the same development ratio and body shape) as argument for that. I don't see how it's not about beauty.
If he feels like I misunderstood his post please let him explain it to me himself, since it's obviously possible I misunderstood, but I'd prefer hearing that from the person I supposedly misunderstood, not a third person that may be just as wrong as me.

[TeamAyu2004]

Originally Posted by isthisLOL?

He was questioning my beauty ideals openly in his post ("are you serious?") and used his subjective ideal of developed(there is no objective "underdeveloped" as not everybody strives to reach the same development ratio and body shape) as argument for that. I don't see how it's not about beauty.
If he feels like I misunderstood his post please let him explain it to me himself, since it's obviously possible I misunderstood, but I'd prefer hearing that from the person I supposedly misunderstood, not a third person that may be just as wrong as me.

I was commenting mainly because I agree with him about it being underdeveloped. And saying he is underdeveloped is not subjective in the fact that he is smaller then some people.
Just because you dont want to reach a certain level of fitness doesnt mean you are still developed as much as others. He is underdeveloped. fact.
Is he happy with his body, a different story all together. Do you think he is hot... yet again another story. beauty is subjective, but actual level of fitness is not.
As for the bolded part. You are being an **** so do us all a favor and stop it.

[susiowong]

Originally Posted by Deep snow

As per always, the booklet shots are way more gorgeous than the covers.

I concur. I don't hate the cover photo, but some of those shots are just really stunning.

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004

I was commenting mainly because I agree with him about it being underdeveloped. And saying he is underdeveloped is not subjective in the fact that he is smaller then some people.
Just because you dont want to reach a certain level of fitness doesnt mean you are still developed as much as others. He is underdeveloped. fact.
Is he happy with his body, a different story all together. Do you think he is hot... yet again another story. beauty is subjective, but actual level of fitness is not.

Not to barge in, but there are fitness and size ideals that vary from person to person, so I do also think the statement that he's underdeveloped is subjective.

[Zeke.]

Originally Posted by isthisLOL?

I prefer it like that. There is no completely universal ideal of beauty especially when it comes to muscle definition - just ask bodybuilders and they will all focus on something different. And that's already one niche group only.

I was speaking from technical terms and not regarding preference / beauty standpoint (although I do prefer chest to be fuller - mine is more developed than his and I still am nowhere near content). But, most bodybuilders don't focus on a certain area, they strive to focus on a well-balanced overall physique, without certain muscle areas being noticeably overpowering. Hence the term "body"builder, lol.