[Editorial] Is avex Afraid Of Letting Ayumi Hamasaki Release Singles?

[TeamAyu2004]

^ Sadly I think at this point in her career its just her fans that go to her concert...

otherwise, why go?
I hardly doubt casual listeners would fork over that much cash for a concert.

[happiholic★]

^I do. There are singers I like more than others, but I still go to their concerts. Gwen Stefani, for example, I'm not a hardcre fan, but I still forked over a couple hundred dollars to see her live because she had just gone solo.

[Andrenekoi]

Ayumi performs to between 300k and 400k people every year during her own concerts... This is among the biggest yearly attendance of all jpop music acts... There are hardly only hardcore fans watching her.

[Delicious n Bold]

I guess you could say that Ayu is now the Japanese Madonna:
-both sell a fraction of whatever they were able to sell before
-not entirely popular with the new generation (i.e. their new music like PQ and MDNA doesn't create new fans as easily as, say I am... or Ray of Light)
-sell out stadiums like hot cakes

[TeamAyu2004]

It's because she is a legend, and their fans love them.

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold

I guess you could say that Ayu is now the Japanese Madonna:
-both sell a fraction of whatever they were able to sell before
-not entirely popular with the new generation (i.e. their new music like PQ and MDNA doesn't create new fans as easily as, say I am... or Ray of Light)
-sell out stadiums like hot cakes

When u notice that:

- Loud Tour was attended by 1,200,800 in 98 dates (12k/concert)
- Californean Dreams Tour by 1,066,831 in 124 dates (8,6k/concert)
- I Am... Tour by 932,715 in 108 dates (8,6k/concert)
- The Monster Ball by 1,469,682 in 201 dates (7,3k/concert)

And you remember that Hotel Love Songs was expected to be seen by 300,000 in 28 dates, so 10,7k people per concert, you see how she is in the same level of any big popstar over there... Without leaving her own country. Madonna's level is slightly harder (3,557,445 people in 85 dates, 41k per date) But even if people over here complains she is touring too much, I believe she still tours less than what the public demands her...

[Pieces_of_SEVEN]

I feel like this whoooooooole thing has been so over-dramatized. I mean...just release another single. Your fans will support you, and even if the sales figures aren't the best, we love you ayu. We always want you to keep singing.

I do think if Avex played their cards right though, they could get pretty great sales for a new single.

"Ayu's first single since 2010! 10 tracks! A new song, being used as the theme for (Insert popular drama or movie or something here), with remixes of this song and two previous songs! A single like the old days for ayu! Please look forward to it!" followed by lots of promotion and and AMAZING cover...I think would sell great.

[happiholic★]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

Ayumi performs to between 300k and 400k people every year during her own concerts... This is among the biggest yearly attendance of all jpop music acts... There are hardly only hardcore fans watching her.

This isn't meant to sound skeptical, but where exactly do you get this info? I'm honestly just curious.

[SURREAL__RAINBOW]

Originally Posted by happiholic★

This isn't meant to sound skeptical, but where exactly do you get this info? I'm honestly just curious.

NEXT LEVEL 2009 tour was on the news because she performed to 300k people that year, I think she's been having more tour dates ever since.

[TeamAyu2004]

also, 7 Day Final was in the news... she performed to around 400K people.

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by happiholic★

This isn't meant to sound skeptical, but where exactly do you get this info? I'm honestly just curious.

The average capacity of the arenas where she performs is 10k people (some more, like Saitama Super Arena, some less, around 8k). She also always have 2 (3 last year) CDL dates, at Yoyogi, that have +- a 13k people capacity.

When she does interviews about her tours, it's also very common for the magazine to point out how many people went to the concerts, specially since 2009 when she started having really long tours.

[isthisLOL?]

^ Don't forget a-nation! Festival sets are still played concerts, I know for a fact Rihanna and Katy even count them as regular tour dates sometimes when they do one-hour sets, so the same type of set Ayumi does.

[saigodansu]

It's easy to find statistics on concert attendance & record sales, even the book and poster sales could probably be found. But as far as how much Ayu or Avex makes in profit on each one, for that you would need to know what % of each is in her contract. Even the part of her being a major share holder at Avex has nothing to really base it on. Celebrities are not even close to being wise with their money usually, that's why when the work stops you see the tabloid pics of how horrible their life has become. Every artist at Avex may have invested in the company, but they all may have chosen not to as well. The posts of her having over 10% of the stock is highly unlikely. The huge shoe collection & the lingerie collection that rivals it & the ridiculous items covered in crystals does not show much signs of handling money well. Neither does the $2000 - $20000 a night hotel stays when she travels or the occasional $600 meals.
LOVE itself already shows the lack of interest in lowering prices for fans & the complete opposite of everything Avex said these next 5 releases was for. They are releasing as usual in multiple formats CD & CD/DVD etc. plus they're billing a single as a mini-album to raise it's price from the start. If they include any other BEST album in these 5 it will be compounding the lie even further.

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by isthisLOL?

^ Don't forget a-nation! Festival sets are still played concerts, I know for a fact Rihanna and Katy even count them as regular tour dates sometimes when they do one-hour sets, so the same type of set Ayumi does.

Well... people were questioning her popularity and that only hardcore fans watched her, so, I just pointed her own concerts because those we can be 101% sure people went to see her...

But when we consider a lot of people from A-nation that keep to the very end and enjoy her performance aren't her fans also, we see her power too. Damn! If we consider the screen time she got on the TV reports for Kishidan Expo, her power on the industry is also made very clear!

[Chibi-Chan]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

When u notice that:
And you remember that Hotel Love Songs was expected to be seen by 300,000 in 28 dates, so 10,7k people per concert, you see how she is in the same level of any big popstar over there... Without leaving her own country. Madonna's level is slightly harder (3,557,445 people in 85 dates, 41k per date) But even if people over here complains she is touring too much, I believe she still tours less than what the public demands her...

Those numbers are impressive I think!

Originally Posted by saigodansu

It's easy to find statistics on concert attendance & record sales, even the book and poster sales could probably be found. But as far as how much Ayu or Avex makes in profit on each one, for that you would need to know what % of each is in her contract. Even the part of her being a major share holder at Avex has nothing to really base it on. Celebrities are not even close to being wise with their money usually, that's why when the work stops you see the tabloid pics of how horrible their life has become. Every artist at Avex may have invested in the company, but they all may have chosen not to as well. The posts of her having over 10% of the stock is highly unlikely. The huge shoe collection & the lingerie collection that rivals it & the ridiculous items covered in crystals does not show much signs of handling money well. Neither does the $2000 - $20000 a night hotel stays when she travels or the occasional $600 meals.
LOVE itself already shows the lack of interest in lowering prices for fans & the complete opposite of everything Avex said these next 5 releases was for. They are releasing as usual in multiple formats CD & CD/DVD etc. plus they're billing a single as a mini-album to raise it's price from the start. If they include any other BEST album in these 5 it will be compounding the lie even further.

And your point is..? Ayu can't handle money well?

[emi♡]

Originally Posted by saigodansu

The huge shoe collection & the lingerie collection that rivals it & the ridiculous items covered in crystals does not show much signs of handling money well. Neither does the $2000 - $20000 a night hotel stays when she travels or the occasional $600 meals.

Once again, fallacious conclusion that could also go many other ways.

We have no idea how much she makes. Those things seem fairly straightforward to me for people who have a lot of continuous income rolling in, and very few responsibilities as far as family, school, etc.

Besides that, I'm certain Avex and her manager wouldn't let her do completely foolish things.

Hotels in the thousands of dollars a night are common for celebrities. Hell, here, they're common for wealthy people in general. Ridiculous shoe collection is subjective. You collect massive amounts of clothes over time. Most high end shoes will be between $600-$1200 a pair. Dropping a few thousand on shoes here and there is not going to kill her, or probably even make a dent in her allowance, which I'm sure she has.


Do you know many wealthy people? Most of them keep their money in banks. Many of them get monthly allowances in the thousands. Many millionaires are able to take care of all their day to day spending based on just the INTEREST their money sitting in the bank makes.

A lot of that monthly allowance, is probably only interest. We can't even know when she's using her actual money

Money is WAY too complex. You can't just say, "she makes this, she spends this." It's not always black and white when you have millions and millions, and when you have royalities, perks, etc, all the time.

[Mr. Goto]

Originally Posted by Delirium-Zer0

Avex wants the money. If ayu's not moving as many units, they have to charge more. If they wanna charge more, they have to call it a mini-album.

but then wouldn't basically every artist release mini-albums instead of singles? also I think the public would tend to purchase a single over a mini-album, singles just have more commercial appeal.

back to profit and using FIVE as an example if they split the mini into two-three singles I'm pretty sure the combined profit from those singles would be more than one mini. avex is def just afraid of ayu losing her #1 single streak

[tokyoxjapanxfan]

The way I see it is, stopping the streak from continuing by not releasing singles is the same as the streak being ended by a single failing to get #1.

Either way it doesn't continue.

[Chibi-Chan]

^true!

[saigodansu]

@emi
again you prove how you misunderstand everything I say.
the expensive hotels are common everywhere for people making so much money.
I'm sure so are the ridiculously priced collections.
The point is, is the most common thing with rich people is the need for more money, they cannot get enough, it drives them to do even the stupidist things as long as they can have more of it.
I was pointing out the enormous amount of reasons to ignore yet another stupid press release by Avex who expect Ayu's fans to be so gullable they will believe absolutely anything if they add it's said by Ayu herself. A company and a singer both that rich are not about to skip the opportunity for more money, they both want all they can get.

If you want some statements by Ayu to believe in, then pay attention to those she made when stressed the most. In 2010 she seemed to desperately want to quit drinking. But when she's working and hanging out with the ones she works with her lyrics point to it being drinking to forget. Just before TA diary became A STAFF BLOG, she said the stress was bothering her so much she felt like running away. Somewhere in between those 2, she said she was starting to notice that she was getting to be too full of pride and it was getting in the way of making better decisions.

Back on the subject of the editorial and the new 5 releases. The rich always want to be richer. If they say it's for the fans, they're expecting exactly what so many fans on AHS are doing, you buy what they say and admire them for that & go & purchase more product, probably even more than you would have if they would not have sounded like they are being so generous to the fans. And the rich become richer and work on their next sales gimmick to do it again next time.

And I've seen alot of celebrities go completely broke & my ex step dad was a millionaire who lost it all. And it doesn't become a fallicious conclusion based on you & others disagreeing with every post I make. That's just your opinion, like my posts are my opinion.