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[summerain]

Originally Posted by hidekirby

I don't know... As regards being offkey, I believe editing can do wonders. I don't remember which live it was (but an old one) and I compared both versions (edited/unedited), it was just day and night. Without her sounding robotic or over edited (like some later shows).
If they could have such results 20-10 years ago I have no doubt they can correct everything they want by now.

As I said the live version of Life really stands out (not in a good way) among all the other edited renditions of the last concert.

I really think she sound good in Life. She's off-key during some parts, but most of the time it sounds good and stable to me.

[hidekirby]

Originally Posted by summerain

I really think she sound good in Life. She's off-key during some parts, but most of the time it sounds good and stable to me.

I think it's obviously been far worse in the past but she's still quite far from sounding good to me (in that particular performance). Too many offkey parts throughout the whole song. In that regard it's really contrasting with the edited versions of the other songs where (almost?) everything is on key and where she seems to hit every single note effortlessly.

That's what I mean when I say you can't really judge from prerecorded live versions. With ayu the difference between edited and unedited has been pretty noticeable. Above all when the source material wasn't great to begin with.

I would say she's still trying not to scream and have more control which is definitely a good thing to carry on. And we all heard good improvements with the last non-edited Promised Land. Hope it's going on like that. At least it shows she is really focusing on vocals these days.

[summerain]

Originally Posted by hidekirby

I think it's obviously been far worse in the past but she's still quite far from sounding good to me (in that particular performance). Too many offkey parts throughout the whole song. In that regard it's really contrasting with the edited versions of the other songs where (almost?) everything is on key and where she seems to hit every single note effortlessly.

That's what I mean when I say you can't really judge from prerecorded live versions. With ayu the difference between edited and unedited has been pretty noticeable. Above all when the source material wasn't great to begin with.

I would say she's still trying not to scream and have more control which is definitely a good thing to carry on. And we all heard good improvements with the last non-edited Promised Land. Hope it's going on like that. At least it shows she is really focusing on vocals these days.

Well, we have cases like that since I remember being a fan of her, specially during Countdown Lives (as we usually didn't have access to unedited Arena Tour recordings). I remember how different she sounded during Endless sorrow @ CDL 05-06, with a lot of editing to make her sound on-key at the DVD version.

My point is, considering all the circumstances and given her actual condition, I think she sounds as good as she can and she's not struggling or shouting a lot. Also, her singing difficulties aren't on her way to convey emotions during the performance (different from POA^3, when she was too disturbed, probably because she couldn't her herself properly). I'm personally satisfied with that, but I know it's subjective.

[hidekirby]

Originally Posted by summerain

Well, we have cases like that since I remember being a fan of her, specially during Countdown Lives (as we usually didn't have access to unedited Arena Tour recordings). I remember how different she sounded during Endless sorrow @ CDL 05-06, with a lot of editing to make her sound on-key at the DVD version.

Yes I know what you mean. I used to listen to the non edited live, if you compare it with the dvd you can really hear the work being done. And to be honest the source material wasn’t sooo bad. She sounded quite strong that CDL.

Originally Posted by summerain

My point is, considering all the circumstances and given her actual condition, I think she sounds as good as she can and she's not struggling or shouting a lot. Also, her singing difficulties aren't on her way to convey emotions during the performance (different from POA^3, when she was too disturbed, probably because she couldn't her herself properly). I'm personally satisfied with that, but I know it's subjective.

Of course, I agree on that ; )
(I remember she sounded quite sick that night during POA^3 recording or like she damaged her voice previously).