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Old 12th October 2006, 12:37 PM
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It's probably better not to jump to conclusions, since none of us really know the particular relationships between composers and labels and singers, or what deals get made behind the scenes. Music companies do have lawyers though, and if they felt they were being infringed upon surely it would be in court. I'd just enjoy the music and leave the legalities to the copyright owners.

What probably disturbs me more is that people jump the bandwagon and carelessly toss around accusations of ripoffs (a very, very serious charge that people here take too lightly) and then use that to justify a criticism of the artist.

Could any kind soul please upload or name the KinKi Kids song that's compared with walking proud? The links in the old thread are already dead, and I don't trust hearsay.
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Old 12th October 2006, 12:51 AM
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When I read the title of this thread as "Koda Kumi facing..." from the main page of the forum, I thought it was going to be a thread on her facing charges.

Anyway, I don't see what the big deal is. I don't really care if something is a rip-off or not. Besides, as Ryoko said, it's highly possible that two songs can end up sounding quite similar to each other. It has happened before, and it will always continue to happen.
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Old 12th October 2006, 06:24 AM
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When I read the title of this thread as "Koda Kumi facing..." from the main page of the forum, I thought it was going to be a thread on her facing charges.
I smell another "Janet Jackson + Superbowl" scandal!

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music nowadays only had a chance of 0.1% of it being original i think... so many musicans in the world n u expect every piece of music they make is original? of cos there would be a very very high possibility that some part of the tune r similar...
I actually agree very highly with this. It's not like chords and chord progressions are highlighted. There similarities - sometimes downright striking - that I find in music but it's completely inconcievable that all of them are rip-offs.

I mean, In The Corner... I found parts of it very similar (both Jade's and Ayu's versions) to Mary J. Blige's Family Affair, but I doubt it was done intentionally (now Sarah Connor's Bounce, that may be another story altogether).


I didn't even realize it could be picked up so easily with Kuu's songs, though.... they're so bland and forgettable (I mean these two particular songs, just so you know. I do love Kuu, quite a lot, but this single sucks)
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Old 12th October 2006, 12:13 PM
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When I read the title of this thread as "Koda Kumi facing..." from the main page of the forum, I thought it was going to be a thread on her facing charges.
sorry i gonna edit the title now

I heard Ayu's "Will" is a ripoff of the theme song of Kiki's Delivery Service ( CHIBLI) or whatever
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Old 12th October 2006, 01:27 AM
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music nowadays only had a chance of 0.1% of it being original i think... so many musicans in the world n u expect every piece of music they make is original? of cos there would be a very very high possibility that some part of the tune r similar...
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Old 12th October 2006, 02:11 AM
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Who's the singer from the first part of the clip? Her voice is awesome! Hanako's......not so much. I'd love to hear the full version (not Hanako's).

I'm pretty sure it will be credited in the single. No harm done.
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Old 12th October 2006, 05:08 AM
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Damn...this stuff kind of happens all the time in the US; your just have to know your music-history to catch it. I'm actually kind of curious about it because it seems J-Pop fans take this stuff seriously. Didn't know "walking proud" was similar to a KinKi Kids song. But I guess I kind of expected Kuu's song to really be a rip off. Mainly because mostly ALL her stuff I have heard/been bombarded with are in-some way grand-thefted material.

LOL in cases such as these, I did learn one thing from America's Next Top Model...cycle 6? (it was the one before the ongoing one):

IF YOU'RE GONNA COPY SOMEBODY...MAKE SURE YOUR VERSION IS WAAAAAAAAAY BETTER THAN THEIRS CAN EVER BE! ^-^ But hey, I'm not a musical fan of Kuu's so I guess that's ya'lls desicion on whether or not it's fair/right/blah-blah-blah/other stuff.
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Old 12th October 2006, 06:07 AM
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You know, since Yume no Uta is like, boring to me now, all I could think of is: if you're going to rip of (hypothetically) a song, let it be at least a good song.
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^ I don't see why though... nothings wrong with it...
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Old 12th October 2006, 12:16 PM
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It wasn't really..

It's the hirahirahirahira part that was sort of similar with the BGM of Kiki's Delivery service, but it was probably coincidence. I mean come on. It's just like two notes XD
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Old 12th October 2006, 12:21 PM
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yea, i checked it on youtube
the hirahirahirahira part is a little bit similar with that one
but kuu's new single is absolutely a ripoff now
sigh.......
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Old 12th October 2006, 01:02 PM
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It looks like the song in question was KinKi Kids' Angel.

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(作詞:浅田信一　作曲:谷本新　編曲:白井良明　コーラスアレンジ:松下誠)

From their 'D' album.
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/D_album
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It looks like the song in question was KinKi Kids' Angel.

エンジェル
(作詞:浅田信一　作曲:谷本新　編曲:白井良明　コーラスアレンジ:松下誠)

From their 'D' album.
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/D_album

Thank you very much, truehappiness You're my Obi Wan Kenobi.

By the way, would you know the particular Kiki's Delivery Service BGM simonlau was referring to?
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Old 12th October 2006, 01:27 PM
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What's this Otsuka Ai business? I didn't know she ripped off someone. Could I ask what songs she ripped off from?
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Old 12th October 2006, 01:39 PM
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What's this Otsuka Ai business? I didn't know she ripped off someone. Could I ask what songs she ripped off from?

Oh I found that site that compared her songs a few weeks ago..
It was umm.. SMILY and some other song and Sakuranbo with a number of songs...

http://bestizgm.cafe24.com/zboard/zb...5f4f538463d17c

http://pya.cc/pyaimg/pimg.php?%20imgid=3561

The Sakuranbo one is kinda like Kuu's... How its various music pieced together..
But the bad thing is... Ai wrote her music.. Kuu didn't so... hmmm...
But seriously... I doubt Avex would do something stupid to risk the success of this single...
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Old 12th October 2006, 01:48 PM
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Supposedly Sakuranbo and SMILY were copied from some old folk music/video game songs.

The song that 'Will' copied. :/
http://fish.kakiko.com/toutsukai/61.swf

Site of Ai Otsuka 'copies'. Click the bolded links and the left will have a flash with the 'songs'
http://fish.kakiko.com/toutsukai/

http://pya.cc/pyaimg/pimg.php?%20imgid=3561
Sakuranbo one. :x
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LOL! XD
Planetarium & Suteki da ne!! XD



Oh noes,...even my top fave Kingyo Hanabi. O_O
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Old 12th October 2006, 04:00 PM
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LOL! XD
Planetarium & Suteki da ne!! XD
No wonder it's so hard to remember the Planetarium song sometimes. I always mix "Ikitaiyo... futari te o tori" but I would NEVER EVER consider that a rip off or copy. It's like what? 5 notes?
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Old 12th October 2006, 01:57 PM
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I just went to that site truehappiness went to..
I went to the SMILY one and like they had newspaper clippings and stuff in the background... x__X;;
And seeing as how big Kuu is, this could turn out badly...
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Old 12th October 2006, 03:06 PM
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OMG ! the ai otsuka's songs ripoff are .....!!! >_<

and she even credit herself for the composition ! ..... shameless !
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