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Old 8th September 2010, 04:22 PM
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I have stated several times "in my opinion", you should reread my posts before saying that. At no point have I attempted to present my opinion as fact, because it is purely that - an opinion. I am neither right nor wrong, as is anybody else.
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Old 8th September 2010, 04:30 PM
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After GUILTY I kinda lost hope for her PV's, because I didn't particularly like Mirrorcle World, GREEN and Days. Then Rule and especially Sparkle were good again, but Sunrise / Sunset were obviously disasters. I personally hated You were..., but then BALLAD is was quite nice.

But Ayu never really won me over again (PV-wise) until Don't Look Back. That PV is just incredible, she's gorgeous in it and the editing is well done, it's a top notch PV.

So it's basically on and off for me, but I know she can still make amazing PV's, so I've got high hopes for Crossroad (full) and L!

On a side note, I found MOON very boring. I think that's her only PV I only watched once. Even Sunrise and Sunset I watched a couple of times

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Old 8th September 2010, 04:33 PM
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After GUILTY I kinda lost hope for her PV's, because I didn't particularly like Mirrorcle World, GREEN and Days. Then Rule and especially Sparkle were good again, but Sunrise / Sunset were obviously disasters. I personally hated You were..., but then BALLAD is was quite nice.

But Ayu never really won me over again (PV-wise) until Don't Look Back. That PV is just incredible, she's gorgeous in it and the editing is well done, it's a top notch PV.

So it's basically on and off for me, but I know she can still make amazing PV's, so I've got high hopes for Crossroad (full) and L!
Yeah I totally agree with you about Don't look back, it was her best PV in a LONG time, and it did win back a lot of faith for me in regards to her PVs.
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Old 8th September 2010, 04:34 PM
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Ok... Here I go:

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Ayu bad PVs IMO:
Trust
For my dear...
Depend on you
Love ~ Destiny
To be
Boys & Girls
kanariya
Fly High
vogue
far away
SEASONS
Surreal
M
Dearest
Daybreak
Free & Easy
Voyage
Real me
ourselves
greatful days
Hanabi Episode 2
No way to say
Moments
Inspire
Game
Carols
Walking Proud
Humming 7/4
fairyland
Bold & Delicious
Pride
startin
born to be
jewel
glitter
fated
decision
(don't) leave me alone
days
rule
next level
sunset - love is all -
microphone
moon

Ayu good PVs IMO (favorite in bold):
Poker Face
YOU
WHATEVER
appears
evolution
endless sorrow
Connected
Rainbow
forgiveness
Because of you
Angel's Song
About You
Step you
is this LOVE?
my name's WOMEN
alterna
HEAVEN
rainy day
ladies night
blue bird
beautiful fighters
1love
momentum
part of me
talkin' 2 myself
together when...
marionette
mirrorcle world
green
curtain call
sparkle
sunrise - love is all -
you were...
ballad
sexy little things
lady dynamite
don't look back


So... Yeah, IMO her recent videos (from My Story era to now) are far better than the cheap looking bad produced, pretentious videos she had on the past... And I'm pretty sure some people hate the videos I like the most... so, what's up with stating a opinion as it is a fact and getting offended cuz people disagreed from you?
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Old 8th September 2010, 04:39 PM
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no, they haven't. the majority of her PV's are still high quality.

my different thoughts on the PV's you mentioned :

Microphone - unique, creative, exciting. it has that "wow" factor to me. i've watched it so many times.
Sunrise and Sunset - pretty boring.
MOON - beautiful and creative. it really made me want to cry. one of my favorite PV's.
Lady Dynamite - we get to see the fun ayu who loves to have a blast and not take herself seriously all the time. i love it!
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Old 8th September 2010, 04:43 PM
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anyone who thinks that Ayumi's PVs have gone down hill should go and watch Angels Song, To Be, and Bold & Delicious and then get back to me.
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Old 8th September 2010, 04:46 PM
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Old 8th September 2010, 04:51 PM
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i think she want something more simple now...

but she keep changing, so we will see what she will do in the future
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Haha I personally love Bold & Delicious, its just so trashy and diva-ish, it's sooo funny!
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Old 8th September 2010, 05:44 PM
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Been on decline for me ever since the PVs for the Next Level album tracks....The Days PV was great...the GREEN PV was ok....Sparkle and Rule were pretty solid.....everything else just sort of wilted from there.
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Old 8th September 2010, 06:00 PM
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Some PVs just aren't to my tastes, no matter what album they are from. I think they became a little more visually shallow, but MOON was beautifully done and You Were... was wonderful too. I do like a lot of recent PVs and a lot of old ones. It just all depends on taste. Some people will find MOON and You Were... boring but I loved the production, filming, settings, colours etc
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i was thinking...MY problem with ayumi's PVs of late is that my expectations are too high. perhaps other fans suffer from the same.

what i mean is that i'm often a little disappointed after watching a new PV, but they almost always grow on me and soon enough i love them. i remember when i first watched you were... i thought it was ok, but it quickly grew on me and i loved it. i guess i think of what i'd like to see and then i feel disappointed that ayumi didn't do this or that in her PV, but once i watch it a couple of times i end up loving it.

thats just my two cents.

except angels song...i still hate that PV. and sunrise/sunset...those are dreaful.
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Old 8th September 2010, 08:40 PM
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i was thinking...MY problem with ayumi's PVs of late is that my expectations are too high. perhaps other fans suffer from the same.
i belive 90% of us fans are affected by this disease i'm sure..we have seen too many PV, our expectations are too high and it's quite impossible to feel completely satisfied.
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Old 8th September 2010, 06:40 PM
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Imo a good pv doesn't have to have cheesy storylines or some plot or be super interesting to be good. Someitmes pvs like moon are just looking at this gorgeous piece of beautiful art. And DLB may be boring. But it has meaning. And she was able to portray that in a more subtle way. Classier
Ayu may not always be aiming for excitement etc

Anyhow I can't say they've declined. And I'm not a biased old fans who usually sees anything that is older ayu as much better
I got to see most of the pvs 2008-1998 at once
So my opinion:

For my dear
Trust
Depend on you
Appears
Boy & girls
Love ~destiny~
To be
Vogue~far away~seasons
Daybreak
Dearest
Voyage
Carols
Humming 7/4
Pride
Born to be
Blue bird
Glitter
Decision
Next level
Curtain call
Sunrise ~love is all~
Sunset ~love is all~
(And yes I really like some of these. Ayu normally has much better pvs than most people. But they're not like super amazing)

I just don't feel that a lot of these were some awesome masterpieces or something. Ayu still has amazing ones today. Ayu has had amazing ones in the past. There's no point in time where I can just say all her pvs are perfect or generally bad. She has a lot of good pvs imo. I LOVE ayus pvs
I just feel at times her old "classic" ayu image is just somewhat overrated (which is natural for fans to do especially since each like different things). Especially. ASFXX-Duty.
Ayus been A okay to me. Still coming with nice unique to herself pvs. She may always be taking a different direction with them but hey. That all her
I do feel however if u switched the release dates of these pvs some of these new lackluster pvs would be considered great and everyone would be complaining about the old pvs. But I think that's just how things always work.
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Old 8th September 2010, 08:31 PM
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Imo a good pv doesn't have to have cheesy storylines or some plot or be super interesting to be good. Someitmes pvs like moon are just looking at this gorgeous piece of beautiful art. And DLB may be boring. But it has meaning. And she was able to portray that in a more subtle way. Classier
Ayu may not always be aiming for excitement etc
Oh yes to everything said here!

and I agree with jbrat2219 on pretty much everything

Not every PV needs to be like ourselves with concepts/meanings/plots that are as obvious as they are they. It can just be a beautiful PV like MOON that it simple but can also be seen as meaningful. The ink covering part was not typically beautiful but can create emotions and visually interesting parts.
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Old 8th September 2010, 06:46 PM
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^is that your list for PVs that suck...cause I think that's the first time I ever agreed completely with someone's list lol

(I might add a few...but I wouldn't take any out...which is very rare...for me...)
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^is that your list for PVs that suck...cause I think that's the first time I ever agreed completely with someone's list lol

(I might add a few...but I wouldn't take any out...which is very rare...for me...)
Basically (its definitely not the ones I love lol) I mean I don't hate em. But some of them are kinda bad. But basically I find them her worst pvs. So yeah. Its nice someone agrees lol.
These vids are just not so hot XD but oh well.
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I might be in the minority in this... But I like her recent PVs WAY more than her old ones... Her old ones being pre-RAINBOW. I don't even remember what they look like lol. But if you're talking about the last 2-3 years, I still very much so disagree.

I'm going to give small explanations as to why I like all of the PVs I like since GUILTY because I'm at school in between classes and am extremely bored! Read if you wish, GREENdays! Tell me if you agree or not. I find it hard to believe you think ALL of these PVs are an indication in a decline in quality from the olden days lol.

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Talkin' 2 myself - I loved the concept of this PV and I loved that she attempted to do a little dancing for us! It was very dark, dirty and gritty just like the song.

decision - To me it's like an upgrade version of evolution. It was filmed with a very J-rock vibe and the lights and camera angles make it very visually appealing in my opinion. Sure not a lot goes on but Ayu looks liked great, the song is great and the video looks great. What more could you ask for?

glitter/fated - They're not exactly my favorite but I really appreciate the effort. (Technically it doesn't really belong in this list lol!!!!)

Together When... - Definitely one of my most favorite songs and PV. Both are extremely personal and it was very simple, clear-cut, not a lot of theatrics. I think if Who.../Ever Free/or Mem. Add were made into PVs, they would be a lot like this.

Marionette - Come on... You can't tell me you think Marionette is bad! It's MARIONETTE! xD; Sure you may not like it, but you can't think it's crap! You'd be crazy LOL.

Mirrorcle World - MW took a long time to grow on me to be honest. But it is very visually appealing. Ayu looks great, she's in a foreign location and she has GREAT costumes. Seriously the best clothes in a PV I've ever seen her in. I also love the head shot with the eye-lashes. <3

Days - Very typical story, very nice scenery, very nice hair and outfit. People may have their nit-picky issues with Days but it's far from a bad PV and Japan would definitely agree.

GREEN - A foreign location again. The only downside about this PV is the directing/editing. Ayu is flawless. Scenery is flawless. Nuff said xD;

Sparkle - Sparkle PV isn't really what I had in mind when I was imagining it but love it or hate it, you can NOT say it's boring, not innovative or unoriginal.

Curtain Call - I may be in the minority of CC lovers, but I LOVE this PV. I love its simplicity, I love how dressed down she is, I even love its flaws. I think the dislike for this PV stems from nit-pickiness again. "She's walking to fast" "It's all one scene" "Boring, unoriginal" blah blah blah.

Sunrise/Sunset - May not be the best PV to watch, but it was definitely the best PV to BE in. It's nice that she has PVs every now and then that fans get to join. As a fan myself I greatly appreciate that.

You were... - I adore this PV. I'm not ashamed to admit I cried when I first saw it lol. I think I have a thing for simplicity because this is one of my top favorite Ayu PVs. Again, not too much going on, not much of a story. But it's visually stunning and it's open to great amounts of interpretation. I find that (some) Ayu fans like to be told a story, beginning to end, don't leave out any detail because if I don't get it I'll call it "boring, dull, crap." Open your minds people.

BALLAD - EXTREMELY beautiful PV, great contrast, love the animated cats. Even though the story is well told, it is still open to interpretation, just like You were...

Microphone - I know some fans feel this PV is dumb because she wasn't in it enough, but even Ayu is big enough to share the spotlight even if some of you aren't (same goes for blossom). I love this PV, extremely great use of transitions. Nice to see some British talent.

Don't look back - Ourselves part II. Very simplistic yet super powerful statement. It's awe-inducing, draw-dropping and creepy as hell. Haters to the left.

Lady Dynamite - This PV gets a lot of hate but I think it's just from nit-pickers who have spikes up their butts and are NO fun. Just kiddinggggggggexceptnot...

Sexy little things - This PV gets a lot of love. Personally, I'm only a big fan of her costumes. I'll let the lovers tell you why it's so great LOL.


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Yes they have, they went from somewhat interesting clips that I would like to watch more than once to extremely boring lame PVs that I struggle to get through on the first watch. She's gone from doing stuff in her PVs and trying to tells some kind of story to just sitting a chair pretending to cry for 5 mins spliced in-between clips of her crying but at a different angle and/or location.

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As long as Ayu looks beautiful I don't really care about the rest. One of my favourite PVs is JEWEL and it's basically only sparkly stuff and Ayu looking beautiful while singing - that's enough for me. I don't expect hidden messages, amazing visuals or a brilliant story line when watching a Music Video. But that's just me.
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