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Old 9th December 2007, 10:30 AM
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forcing it and singing emotionally are two really different things.
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Old 9th December 2007, 10:45 AM
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Ayu sang TW very nice at Music Japan and Domoto Kyoudai.
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Old 9th December 2007, 10:48 AM
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Her singing for Together When in Music Japan is good
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Old 9th December 2007, 10:51 AM
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I liked her singing better in general when she sounded more high pitched and cuter. But her lives were worse before. Now I think they're in general nice and adds a lot to the song. A live is not supposed to sound like a recording... Then they might as well lip synch.
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Old 9th December 2007, 10:54 AM
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I liked her singing better in general when she sounded more high pitched and cuter.

Me too
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Old 9th December 2007, 11:07 AM
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She is most certainly flat at various points in many of her lives. Unfortunately she just isn't as vocally gifted as some singers and has to work a little harder in order to perfect her live vocals, at times ultimately resulting in performances that seem overly emotional. I did not watch a single talkin' 2 myself live that I thought was impressive because in most of them she was out of breath due to using too much energy. Overall, she's quite a mixed bag when performing live. However, like Beyond the Sea said, her DVD released lives are always of a much higher quality, which could very well be (at least in my opinion) due to editing in order to make her sound better. After all, concert lives usually need to be at least partially edited for any artist to, at the very least, remove the insane amount of noise coming from the crowd (or so I've heard).
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Old 9th December 2007, 11:35 AM
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I dunno.. She has been singing like that (sounds flat) since talkin' to myself. She wasn't like that during glitter/fated or even the A BEST 2 era. Personally I dun believe she's struggling or forcing to hit higher notes. It's just that her voice is very very flat lately. Together When... at musicstation is an obvious example. I was like, "what's going on?"
I dunno. She might sounded flat during probly 5 or 10 seconds during a live performance back then, but not like this time. Her voice was so flat for 80% of TW... weird..
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Old 9th December 2007, 11:40 AM
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only thing that bugs me most is her vibrato for the last few years ..
i wish she wouldn't go all out on those vibrato .. really ruin her lives
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Old 9th December 2007, 12:26 PM
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indeed. ASIA TOUR was flawless when i saw her. was pretty amazed. perhaps the song made so emo that she cant sing properly.
Really?? Where did you watch the ASIA TOUR video?
well, imo, she's not the best live singer, her voice is sometimes un-control, but it's better sing live than lip-sync...
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Old 9th December 2007, 01:56 PM
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She sang Glitter soooo well during A nation. She didnt start with a low pitch and she was back to her chirpy voice ^^ Only for glitter, though.
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Old 9th December 2007, 02:36 PM
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Really?? Where did you watch the ASIA TOUR video?
well, imo, she's not the best live singer, her voice is sometimes un-control, but it's better sing live than lip-sync...
she meant that she saw ayu singing live on her asia tour concert..

and yea me too. she sang great in her tour..i attended her asia tour concert too and i sat quite near to loudspeaker..so kinda heard her voice pretty clearly..
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Yeah, and ayu @ a-nation sang really nice except T2M.
Fated n glitter was sung very good.
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Old 9th December 2007, 03:01 PM
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^yes! a-nation was a surprise for me...it sounded quite bad in the preview, but the TV version was very gd...and her TW... live at Music Japan was great too!

of coz we all love it when she sings close to the Studio version, but i think AYu has her own way singing live...sometimes she goes deeper (which im not that fond of but as long as its not too much), and sometimes, her emotions may make her go a bit off...well, to some it may be disappointing given her status..many expect the best from her..but thats rather impossible..

talkin' 2 myself is REALLY HARD to sing..its so energetic and Ayu had to have some action and keep up with the tempo...and the song itself, Ayu sang with her newer deeper vocals unlike Together When..., which is higher-pitched..

and its great that people who went to ASIA tour said she sang very well coz thats very promising...speaking of that, WHERE IS THAT DVD?!?!?! omg
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I have to agree with you guys that her singing for concert is way better than she sounds in TV performances. I attended ASIA tour and her voice there was undeniably good.

But sometimes things sound different at different scenes. I know someone who went to Hey!*3 to saw her singing Together When. That person actually commented that her vocal there was flawless. But when he watched it again on TV, the vocal sounded different. Or may be that's the problem with post-processing...
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Most of the time, Ayu can't hit the high notes but I think it's normal. On recordings, she gets to have more than 1 chance to hit the note. Ayu isn't exactly the greatest singer and she doesn't have the strongest voice. I think she still manages to pull it off quite well depending on the songs. Songs like "Voyage" and "RAINBOW" are good for her. They really show her soft beautiful voice. "Close to you" also. But with songs like "TW..." that has a lot of low and high notes, it can be difficult.

I agree with some that Ayu shouldn't sing such loud vibrato though. It gets annoying at times and she does it with all of her songs lately.

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Ayu's live performance are always crappy unless they're released on DVD by avex so they have time to be altered.
Sounds like someone needs to go check Ayu's "forgiveness" performance @ MS.
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Old 9th December 2007, 06:13 PM
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Sounds like someone needs to go check Ayu's "forgiveness" performance @ MS.
What year?? I would love to see the performance

and btw, yeah fated @ a-nation was amazing! and so does TW @ Music Japan!!
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Old 9th December 2007, 06:41 PM
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What year?? I would love to see the performance

and btw, yeah fated @ a-nation was amazing! and so does TW @ Music Japan!!
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v726180PT...238546&rank=12
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Old 9th December 2007, 07:01 PM
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It really depends on the song. Personally, I like her lower voice after the Rainbow era better. And when she's at the studio, she has a music sheet in front of her, so it's much easier to be on key.

Just a thought, would this have something to do with her ear?
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Old 9th December 2007, 07:14 PM
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Just a thought, would this have something to do with her ear?
maybe it has something to do with her ear
she has problems to hear the instrumental if it isn't loud enough (in ballads for example)
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Old 10th December 2007, 08:11 AM
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^ It could be...Dunno.

By no means am I saying she's a bad artist. I still LOVE LOVE ayu's songs and feel alittle dumb that her songs continue to appear on my playlist, annoying my sister quite a lot I'm sure. But I can't help but notice ayu's lives going lower..and lower and eventually flat. I hope it doesn't become a pattern!

I think she's managed emotional and on-key before so I don't think it's cuz it's too emotional that she can't hit the note. I hope she's just been working too hard and her voice wasn't in top shape.
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