the person that passed away... - Page 3

balladesque · #41 26th December 2007, 05:56 PM

I feel for Ayu, RIP to Natsuki.

tehxiinae · #42 26th December 2007, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by hanabinokisetsu

I think what happened was that Natsuki was the first person who some sort of "wakes" ayu up...

i think this to be very true...in which case, I am so sad for Ayu

untitled ~for her~ is a very important and deep song too...

I think we should all support Ayu, this is such a tough time for her!!!

Bad Wolf · #43 26th December 2007, 06:39 PM

Nice find truehappiness!

Honestly, thinking about this almost.. makes me want to cry (I'm such a sap, god). Is it weird that I kind of think people see Ayu--or other major musicians/artists--almost as if they exist in their own world where these things can't happen to them? Not that *I* think that, only that it seems like the Ayu we see and hear in PVs, concerts and on albums is somehow distance from the Ayu beneath it all, like there are "two" Ayus runnin' around. I think she shows this a lot in her PVs, most particularly the sad ones and especially in Together When... the outward Ayu waiting for a taxi cab ride to leave, while the "darker" Ayu is left feeling broken and in pieces.

It's actually really.. really heartbreaking to think about it. I'm remembering a message Ayu wrote (I believe it was for TA a while back?) saying that when she sat down to listen to GUILTY all the way through she actually started to cry. Makes me want to give the poor thing a hug.

Diana · #44 26th December 2007, 06:53 PM

Aw..i dont know who it is but I feel sorry for Ayu

Glad she made song for her.. and I was wondering who it was for

SunshineSlayer · #45 26th December 2007, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tethevo

So, we know that someone important in Ayu's life passed away at the end of October/early Nov (right before HEYx3 recording).

Then, she has alluded to her in "untitled ~for her~" and with a message at the end of the GUILTY booklet.

The Japanese fan community is saying that the person that died is 豊田夏来 (Toyota(?) Natsuki).

According to here, she's a person that has been a close friend of hers since her debut. She appeared in the "For my dear..." video.

Thoughts? Is this the person?

I think that is very likely. If you go to Masa's page and read his translation of her first All Night Nippon appearance, she talks a lot of Natsuki. Basically she was Ayu's first friend after coming to Tokyo and first person in her life that treated her like Ayu thought a family member should be treated.

criminal · #46 26th December 2007, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by criminal

I have a weird idea. Maybe the person who died is the friend that Ayumi wrote Wishing about. Though it's just a shot in the dark.

I guess I was right, though... when you think about how Ayumi's mother treated her, the loss of Natsuki is even worse?

tethevo · #47 27th December 2007, 12:51 AM

OK. Just to also clarify and say that this is what is being spread among the fan communities. None of this is confirmed. So for all we know, Natsuki is running around in Tokyo screaming at the people in CD stores for not buying more GUILTY...

chocopockymaster · #48 27th December 2007, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by tethevo

OK. Just to also clarify and say that this is what is being spread among the fan communities. None of this is confirmed. So for all we know, Natsuki is running around in Tokyo screaming at the people in CD stores for not buying more GUILTY...

Were there any obituaries or news stories posted around the time she supposedly passed away? Does anybody know?

Yukitora · #49 27th December 2007, 01:46 AM

oh my. I read that ALL NIGHT NIPPON thing last year for my assignment on ayu's music, and I had wondered what had happened to Natsuki. To hear this is really saddening. I hope it wasn't suicide......

the angel song · #50 27th December 2007, 02:02 AM

I know! Man if I was a japanese fan and heard about someone close to ayu passing away, I would've scoured the internet and newspapers for obituaries trying to connect them to people she's talked about. It's hard for us because there's a language barrier, and I know it's not our place to be curious over this, but ayu put these lyrics out for us and for herself, to tell us she's hurting. I think we just want to understand her pain a little better, to better connect to her as fans in a more personal way, not the 'kawaii ayu' we see on her tv spots. Not only that, but there are some people in the thread who've done a 180 on liking this song through seeing who it was meant for. I think we just want some answers is all.

Reading through that All Night Nippon and believing it's Natsuki who passed made me so close to tears though.

tethevo · #51 27th December 2007, 10:38 AM

There aren't any news articles on her because...she's not famous (well in the showbiz sense). So, no, if she did pass away, there's no official word.

**Zemus** · #52 27th December 2007, 11:05 AM

I didn't know it was her who appeared in the "For My Dear..." PV. Thanks, you learn stuff every day!
But I'm really sad for Ayu now, she mentions her A LOT in that All night Nippon broadcast indeed, and they seemed extremely close

EDIT: Random (as the MF link available at AHS died some time ago), but if somebody wants that All night Nippon in audio format then get it here: http://www.sendspace.com/file/9u7gb0

Yukitora · #53 27th December 2007, 03:27 PM

^Thanks! I didn't know an audio rip was available...

Surreal · #54 27th December 2007, 04:13 PM

I didn't even notice that women in for my dear PV before..but she certainly looks A LOT different from the person at the bottom of this page http://www.mishii-list.com/mania/05.html - she supposedly set up MATERIAL GIRL? My Japanese is not very good..but if she did I guess she must be very closed to Ayu since it's one of her favourite/endorsed brands few years ago.

4ever*ayu · #55 28th December 2007, 10:59 PM

i'm so sorry to hear that......if it was true, then ayu ..... T__T

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Originally Posted by Surreal

I didn't even notice that women in for my dear PV before..but she certainly looks A LOT different from the person at the bottom of this page http://www.mishii-list.com/mania/05.html - she supposedly set up MATERIAL GIRL? My Japanese is not very good..but if she did I guess she must be very closed to Ayu since it's one of her favourite/endorsed brands few years ago.

There are 2 women(3 if ayu included) in For My Dear PV, one of them has already been posted by Maxker in the previous page of this thread, but i don't think that's her.

And the other one is this women:

source: http://eneabba.net/ayu/video/videocl...or_My_Dear.htm

This is her latest pic from your URL above:

Now, i think that's her.

Btw, Zemus, i never know that All Night Nippon had the audio rip, thx so much!!

sitara · #56 29th December 2007, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Zemus

I didn't know it was her who appeared in the "For My Dear..." PV. Thanks, you learn stuff every day!
But I'm really sad for Ayu now, she mentions her A LOT in that All night Nippon broadcast indeed, and they seemed extremely close

EDIT: Random (as the MF link available at AHS died some time ago), but if somebody wants that All night Nippon in audio format then get it here: http://www.sendspace.com/file/9u7gb0

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! i really wanted this file, but when i requested it, nobody replied! :3 aaaahhhhhh, the young ayumi! i miss her ;___;

nikku76 · #57 30th December 2007, 06:17 AM

If it is true that her friend died of suicide.. that just gives so many new shades to some of the songs on GUILTY. Namely the title-track and (don't) Leave me alone. For some reason, after hearing that, (d)Lma really started to strike a chord with me when I hadn't really connected with it before.

This would also be another connection between Ayu's GUILTY and Kelly Clarkson's My December. Kelly also lost a friend to suicide this past year and wrote at least one song (Haunted) about her, though I suspect that a couple of others hint at it in the lyrics (One Minute, Hole). Weird, all these similarities in their albums/lives.

As someone mentioned before, I can only imagine the turbulent cycle of emotions Ayu has gone through... guilt being one of the big ones.

EDIT: When I read this on the page, it seemed kind of cold. I got so caught up in the artistic side of things, I forgot to say how bad I felt for both Ayu, having to go through this and for her friend, having to go through something so bad that it would drive her to end her own life. I'm sure Ayu feels the same as I do, wishing she had known and that she could have been there just to give her a hug and reassure her.

Qt Mashi · #58 30th December 2007, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 4ever*ayu

There are 2 women(3 if ayu included) in For My Dear PV, one of them has already been posted by Maxker in the previous page of this thread, but i don't think that's her.

And the other one is this women:

source: http://eneabba.net/ayu/video/videocl...or_My_Dear.htm

This is her latest pic from your URL above:

Now, i think that's her.

the 2 pics u have there they are different women, their head shape isnt alike, they both just have a fringe, but they do look quite similar...

but i think the woman Maxker posted on the previous page is the same woman as the later picture, except she didnt have a fringe back then

chocopockymaster · #59 30th December 2007, 07:28 PM

^ They have the same nose...

Another observation: if you look at the last page of the GUILTY booklet, she says how the album is dedicated to someone special, etc etc, 1976-2007. Natsuki was born in '76 according to the link that was posted earlier.

Surreal · #60 31st December 2007, 07:33 AM

QTmashi: they look exactly the same so I have no idea why you say they are different people.. o_O

thanks for the all night nippon file..never knew it existed..being a 8 yr fan of ayu o_O