[CHARTS + SALES] GUILTY - second topic

[ayumisrael]

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

That doesn't mean she got #1 for the week - that's still up in the air. "Bowing in at the top spot" means she entered the chart at #1, probably for the day because Oricon still hasn't updated past 12/27. Hopefully she does get #1 for the week, but it's still not known for sure.

btw, I'm astounded by the lack of maturity of some of the people around here...

Peger said GUILTY got #1 on united world chart (so most likely on oricon too), we just need to wait for the page to update I guess.

[SunshineSlayer]

Originally Posted by ayumisrael

Peger said GUILTY got #1 on united world chart (so most likely on oricon too), we just need to wait for the page to update I guess.

Right, the UWC is what I'm talking about. There is no where on the UWC site that lists Ayu's album as #1 for the week, with sales figures (as they usually do.) There is just the message that it "bowed in at #1" which could mean daily or weekly. :

As Demure_Dusk pointed out, if she is #1 for the week, then she should be on this list: http://www.mediatraffic.de/albums.htm but she is not, although Kobukuro is. Even Bump of Chicken is way up there. It's for the first week of January. So hypothetically she should be on there somewhere, but oddly she is not. So yeah, still gotta wait for Oricon I think.

[ayumisrael]

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

Right, the UWC is what I'm talking about. There is no where on the UWC site that lists Ayu's album as #1 for the week, with sales figures (as they usually do.) There is just the message that it "bowed in at #1" which could mean daily or weekly. :

I think he was refering to the chart itself, more than this message (I think), or Peger just should explain.

Though I don't know if they would put such a message for 1 or couple of days on #1. Doesn't make sense.
I mean they could put kobukuro there instead of ayu for the #1, if they were the ones who are #1 (For the whole week). We gotta wait and see I suppose.

[SunshineSlayer]

Originally Posted by ayumisrael

I think he was refering to the chart itself, more than this message (I think), or Peger just should explain.

Yeah, as I said though, the chart itself doesn't have Ayumi on it. So there is conflicting information. And the link that the "bows at #1" message gives is to the Oricon daily chart.

[Peger]

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

Right, the UWC is what I'm talking about. There is no where on the UWC site that lists Ayu's album as #1 for the week, with sales figures (as they usually do.) There is just the message that it "bowed in at #1" which could mean daily or weekly. :

As Demure_Dusk pointed out, if she is #1 for the week, then she should be on this list: http://www.mediatraffic.de/albums.htm but she is not, although Kobukuro is.

That link is for last week's chart. They haven't posted any numbers for this week other than Alicia Keys' because she's the Global #1. When they update the Top 40 chart for this week, Ayumi, Kobukuro, and any other Japanese titles that made the list will have their estimates posted.

The UWC still gets data from Japan when Oricon goes on break; if you look at their archive from last year, you'll see they have Koda's second week #'s.

[ayumisrael]

Yes, that explains why ayu isn't there, it's from last week.
To tell the truth I won't be surprised if GUILTY is really #1.

[SunshineSlayer]

Originally Posted by Peger

That link is for last week's chart. They haven't posted any numbers for this week other than Alicia Keys' because she's the Global #1. When they update the Top 40 chart for this week, Ayumi, Kobukuro, and any other Japanese titles that made the list will have their estimates posted.

The UWC still gets data from Japan when Oricon goes on break; if you look at their archive from last year, you'll see they have Koda's second week #'s.

Ahh I see. Didn't Kobukuro release on the same week as Ayu though? Also, the chart says it's for 1/5/07, so kinda confusing.

[ayumisrael]

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

Ahh I see. Didn't Kobukuro release on the same week as Ayu though? Also, the chart says it's for 1/5/07, so kinda confusing.

GUILTY is "competing" against kobukuro's 2nd week of their album.

[Peger]

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

Ahh I see. Didn't Kobukuro release on the same week as Ayu though? Also, the chart says it's for 1/5/07, so kinda confusing.

Kobukruo released their album the week before Ayumi, which is why they're album is listed as new on the un-updated link. I believe the date listed is the official publication date of the chart; for some reason, it's always well after the week in question ends. For instance this week's Billboard chart is the 1/19/08 chart.

[naxxo.licious™]

LOLZ this chart stuff is so complicated sometimes XD!! I think we should better wait for the oricon results. Meanwhile let's cheer 4 ayu

[ayu_fan929]

Originally Posted by Peger

The UWC still gets data from Japan when Oricon goes on break; if you look at their archive from last year, you'll see they have Koda's second week #'s.

The thing I don't get is how UWC still gets data from Oricon while paying members in Japan don't...

[ayumisrael]

Originally Posted by ayu_fan929

The thing I don't get is how UWC still gets data from Oricon while paying members in Japan don't...

Perhaps the UWC pay for them for numbers+names... that's the most reasonable thing anyway...

[SunshineSlayer]

Originally Posted by Peger

Kobukruo released their album the week before Ayumi, which is why they're album is listed as new on the un-updated link. I believe the date listed is the official publication date of the chart; for some reason, it's always well after the week in question ends. For instance this week's Billboard chart is the 1/19/08 chart.

Thanks for clearing that up.

[v3lun420]

Luv ~ Venus~... I LOVE ur spirit, but aren't u Utada's fans???

GO AYUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
I DON'T CARE WHAT DUMMIES ARE SAYING ABOUT YOU IN THIS THREAD, I JUST WISH YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE, ANOTHER No. 1.

[ayumisrael]

Originally Posted by v3lun420

Luv ~ Venus~... I LOVE ur spirit, but aren't u Utada's fans???

GO AYUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
I DON'T CARE WHAT DUMMIES ARE SAYING ABOUT YOU IN THIS THREAD, I JUST WISH YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE, ANOTHER No. 1.

She's an ayu fan as well XD
She's one of the honest people and though she has another favorite she still wish for ayu's album to be #1! She's fair and honest ^-^.

[Luv ~Venus~]

Originally Posted by v3lun420

Luv ~ Venus~... I LOVE ur spirit, but aren't u Utada's fans???

GO AYUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
I DON'T CARE WHAT DUMMIES ARE SAYING ABOUT YOU IN THIS THREAD, I JUST WISH YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE, ANOTHER No. 1.

LOL!

Yea, I'm a MAJOR Hikki fan. I'm huge of BoA, Namie, Ayu, misono, Crystal Kay, Sowelu, UVERworld, Asian Kung-fu Generation, Epic High, Seven, RAIN.....yea, I have many more but this isn't the place to tell them! lol

Anyway, I just can't stand when people act so fake and biased about they really feel. There have been people posting crap about, 'I don't care if she gets #1! She's still #1 in my eyes!" and all that other bull. As soon as this thread was made, those same people came in here, saying they almost had heart attack because she thought she was #2..

(Thanks for the complement! hehehehe Do you have my MSN address???)

Originally Posted by ayumisrael

She's an ayu fan as well XD
She's one of the honest people and though she has another favorite she still wish for ayu's album to be #1! She's fair and honest ^-^.

Who's my cutie, cutie?! You are! *kisses on the cheek*

Sometimes, I post confusing stuff that makes people go, WTF?"....I find it very funny. XD Yea, I want to be honest to you guys....I mean, why not be honest? When I first came here, everyone thought I was annoying posting girl! (I find that funny though) I even had a couple of members to tell me to stop posting so much! XD

Oh, crap...I have been going on and on....this thread is for ayumi---okay, getting back on topic now!

*AHEM*

[somethinglost]

I just think it's funny that while ORICON has been on break, this new thread has still been able to get to 6 pages. ;D

[Neil]

Ayumi debuted at #7 on the world charts with 202,000 sales. :-\

[somethinglost]

Kobukuro dropped to 13 with 142.000 !!

[Zemus]

Why the ":-\"? She has most sells in Japan for that week then A relief I guess...