[CHARTS + SALES] GUILTY - second topic

[somethinglost]

Originally Posted by Demure_Dusk

Hm I think this album was much more well received than for example (m)u. I guess the promotion with a power ballad does help because Japanese love those kind of ballads. Btw which record label are kobukuro?

Kobukuro are on Warner Music Japan.

[Raleigh]

Originally Posted by somethinglost

Kobukuro are on Warner Music Japan.

Thanks. Usually record labels like Johnny's and avex are rumored to make deals with Oricon on rankings so.. let's see..

[criminal]

That puts a WHOLE NEW MEANING to close. D: OMG
I just had a thought yesterday. What if single A sells 39,525 copies and single B sells 39,247 copies. What happens? Would Oricon "adjust" the numbers or something. I've never seen anything that close and now it's happening with Ayumi! :O :O

My guess is that the album sells about 540k. I'd love it if it were 555k, just like Secret was 666k.

[ayumisrael]

I wonder if the total sales will be that close too =P I guess the total real sales will change that...

[TITANIC]

so this album sales better than secret ^^
i hope this album still in top 10 at yearly chart

[elepop]

^ Not really.

"Secret" sold 386,280 on it's first week.

Originally Posted by LNany

Seems like Oricon page for subscriptors (paying members) has been updated with daily rankings for the last days. Kobukuro and Ayu are really close.

"Day" 　Kobukuro　　Ayu　　 EXILE　　
――――――――――――――――――――
12/24　*33,384　***,***　*24,610
12/25　*21,742　*39,292　*15,207
12/26　*16,841　*24,256　*11,568
12/27　*14,960　*18,391　*10,547
12/28　*16,383　*19,874　*11,775
12/29　*17,619　*18,070　*11,785
12/30　*17,907　*20,449　*12,151
12/31　*22,730　*19,066　*11,068
01/01　*16,698　*22,453　*10,851
01/02　*19,315　*17,810　*16,400
01/03　*25,556　*24,645　*21,453
01/04　*12,517　*10,881　*10,952
01/05
01/06
━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━
Index 　235,652　235,187　168,367

Expected sales:
#1: Kobukuro (5296) -> 235,652 (x1.7) = 400,608
#2: Ayu (GUILTY)-> 235,187 (x1.7) = 399,818
#3: EXILE (EXILE LOVE) -> 168,367 (x1.7) = 286,224

WHAT!?! Come on Ayu, you can get #1.

[ayumisrael]

Just now I noticed that it lack 2 days!
Wow so GUILTY will eventually sell more than 450,000 (I think) for 2 first week!
Those are pretty awesome sales and ayu's popularity remain the same as last year... wow.

[Raleigh]

Originally Posted by riozz

so this album sales better than secret ^^
i hope this album still in top 10 at yearly chart

No Secret had better sales up till now. I think Secret sold almost 500k in the first two weeks. However GUILTY might have a better chart life.

[Lee_Hamasaki]

Originally Posted by riozz

so this album sales better than secret ^^

no...secret sold 494,399 in the first 2 weeks

[ayumisrael]

I don't think GUILTY's will be so far from Secret...
With only index numbers it will be about 410,000 so with the added sales it might be around 450,000+ first 2 weeks which doesn't make it so far from Secret, and if it will have a longer chart life (with a miracle) so it can outsell it...
but it's all 50/50 right now.

[TITANIC]

thanks for notice me..
ow yea.. i forgot this album in 2weeks

so it seems the sales are weaker than secret.. T____T

[°~Kitty~°]

how about the download charts for guilty does anyone know them?

[JinHamasaki]

Go ayu go!!!!!!!

The indicator for Ayu's might be much higher than Kob's. I'm hoping a lot of people pre-ordered it since first press included the photobook.

Remember CDJapan is OUT of First Press.....hope this is indicative of other online stores as well!

[ayumisrael]

I think GUILTY did pretty well on HMV as well, it was #1 a lot.

[TITANIC]

Originally Posted by °~Kitty~°

how about the download charts for guilty does anyone know them?

not yet..

actually ayu's sales is higher than kobukuro..but its not fair..
they count guilty only 11 days and kobukuro 12 days

[Raleigh]

Originally Posted by ayumisrael

I don't think GUILTY's will be so far from Secret...
With only index numbers it will be about 410,000 so with the added sales it might be around 450,000+ first 2 weeks which doesn't make it so far from Secret, and if it will have a longer chart life (with a miracle) so it can outsell it...
but it's all 50/50 right now.

This is my theory so I might be wrong but I think that the first few weeks are when the normal fans purchase the album as they usually do so they are fairly similar. In the last three years the first week was (approximately) 350k. So thus now it will depend on how well received this album will be. If it will be popular casual fans and others and have a longer chart life.

Right now I predict that this album will sell around 650-700k so probably the sames will be similar to Secret.


Btw wikipedia says "Together When..." was downloaded 1,000,000 times from Recochoku, is there proof for this or this is another fake thing?

[Yukitora]

^So it only sold 166k after that? Wow O_o That's really... poor.

[TITANIC]

Originally Posted by Yukitora

^So it only sold 166k after that? Wow O_o That's really... poor.

thats only the prediction

[Lee_Hamasaki]

Originally Posted by Demure_Dusk

Btw wikipedia says "Together When..." was downloaded 1,000,000 times from Recochoku, is there proof for this or this is another fake thing?

wiketheppn says tw was downloader 900k+ (all song) and another 900+ (ringtones) from chaku uta.

[Raleigh]

Originally Posted by Lee_Hamasaki

wiketheppn says tw was downloader 900k+ (all song) and another 900+ (ringtones) from chaku uta.

Okay guess we cannot know unless avex or someone else reports it.. but 900k+ sounds pretty good.