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Old 6th February 2008, 11:29 AM
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It's too bad America is so prejudice against Asians
There's no way she'll make a breakthrough here (and yes yes, attack/argue with me all you want but it's true). Especially cuz her English is not entirely up to par. I'll buy her album either way...even though I'm not entirely into BoA.
I don't think it's like that at all. I think America has come a long from that "Me so horny" crap and are accepting not just Asians but a large variety of cultures into the music busy even htough it's little by little. I think the only problem with Americans liking an Asian artist might be because of their english. No American [excluding us] doesn't want to hear an artist that they can't understand and that's the truth.

BoA and Hikki's music is appealing enough to be a success, if their record label would promote them right. Exodus had all the right tunes, beats, whatever to be a success but yall know she got that crappy promotion. Everyone knows that the way to be successful in the music biz is to be promoted on MTV's TRL. XD Seriously, it is.

Well, anyway....

This year will be great year for Asian artists. There is going to be quite a lot of them debuting here. [yay!] And after all that "Tila Tequla" stuff, I don't think MTV fans would turn down asian people much anymore. lol
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Old 6th February 2008, 05:37 PM
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Hmmm.... as much as I love BoA... I have a feeling that she's going to flop.
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Old 6th February 2008, 06:42 PM
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Really? I hope she does better than Utada, but unless she gets really lucky with producers and ends up with an Umbrella-style surprise hit I don't think she'll become a star in the US.
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ehh.....I seriously don't want another Utada thing to happen..honestly...namie's music would do better in my opinion....I don't know about Boa.
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Old 6th February 2008, 07:26 PM
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Now Angela Aki on the other hand...should release an album in America...see, she speaks perfect English. =)
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Old 6th February 2008, 07:40 PM
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I don't think it's like that at all. I think America has come a long from that "Me so horny" crap and are accepting not just Asians but a large variety of cultures into the music busy even htough it's little by little. I think the only problem with Americans liking an Asian artist might be because of their english. No American [excluding us] doesn't want to hear an artist that they can't understand and that's the truth.

BoA and Hikki's music is appealing enough to be a success, if their record label would promote them right. Exodus had all the right tunes, beats, whatever to be a success but yall know she got that crappy promotion. Everyone knows that the way to be successful in the music biz is to be promoted on MTV's TRL. XD Seriously, it is.

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This year will be great year for Asian artists. There is going to be quite a lot of them debuting here. [yay!] And after all that "Tila Tequla" stuff, I don't think MTV fans would turn down asian people much anymore. lol
I don't think it's like that at all either. Because what about stars like Jackie Chan, Lucy Liu, etc? It's no longer really the matter of skin tone, but whether or not you can generate enough appeal to sustain people's interest.

I kind of agree with the TRL bit too simply because the mainstream music industry is aimed towards teenagers. Since the show is so popular and influential, and teenagers are more easily swayed to follow popular culture, whichever artist appears on it surely must be worth checking out.
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I think its worth a try for her... ^^ I have faith in BoA.
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Utada's english album flopped, and I don't think BoA has anything that will set her apart from other artists. I saw Utada's CD at wal-mart when it came out, so I was optomistic, but it just kind of came, and went.

I don't know if it's an image thing, or if it's just that the music itself just isn't made for the mainstream American audience. I'd love some japanese artists to make some sort of splash over here, but the reality of it is that it's too much of a risk for the labels to put that much money into these artists, and without huge backing they just kind of come and go.

These artists really have a niche appeal in the states when it comes down to it, and nothing more. It's a little sad, but then again it might not be the same if one of your favorite Japanese artists truley blew up big over here. They'd have to change up their sound, and/or image to even hope to do anything substantial.
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Utada's english album flopped, and I don't think BoA has anything that will set her apart from other artists. I saw Utada's CD at wal-mart when it came out, so I was optomistic, but it just kind of came, and went.

I don't know if it's an image thing, or if it's just that the music itself just isn't made for the mainstream American audience. I'd love some japanese artists to make some sort of splash over here, but the reality of it is that it's too much of a risk for the labels to put that much money into these artists, and without huge backing they just kind of come and go.

These artists really have a niche appeal in the states when it comes down to it, and nothing more. It's a little sad, but then again it might not be the same if one of your favorite Japanese artists truley blew up big over here. They'd have to change up their sound, and/or image to even hope to do anything substantial.
Wholeheartedly agree with everything you said. I don't think it's a matter of ethnics. The main problem is just that US has already enough artists competing on the mainstream music side, and for somebody from another country to really stand a chance, they really have to have something very promising that'd be able to become a mainstream hit. I honestly don't really think BoA has the energy and inspiration to do that...heck, one of those days she was even talking about quitting for studies. I really foresse she'll flop miserably if she dare try going to america.
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Wasn't she supposed to be taking a break? What's all this, now? o__O
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I have to agree with you there. It's funny too, because all of my friends seem to like Namie, whether or not they actually like J-Pop in general. Her style is very hip and if it were in English, I'm sure it would be enormously successful here with the right promotion. She would just need to work on her English as well. I've never seen her speak it out of songs like Ayu did in the CNN interview.
Namie Amuro seems the best to go international, she has a great image and has great producers for her music, if Queen of Hip-Pop was in English it would of sold like OMFG!!! Alot of my friends like Namie the best, WoWa is like gold to them lol! It would be the new Umbrella-ella-ella...etc
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A couple of years ago I would have been so excited about this, but since MI20 I've really gone off her. I think it's good she kept it so quiet though - nice surprise for the fans! Is she not taking a break though?

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She did and it flopped.
It didn't flop. I'm pretty sure it was independent. If Angela had one of the BIG FOUR, it won't flop. Angela has yet to flop...she hasn't even really debuted in America.

...Back on topic...BoA will of course fail. We know that. However, the fact that she'll release an album a lot of us will understand is pretty good.
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I don't think it's like that at all either. Because what about stars like Jackie Chan, Lucy Liu, etc? It's no longer really the matter of skin tone, but whether or not you can generate enough appeal to sustain people's interest.

I kind of agree with the TRL bit too simply because the mainstream music industry is aimed towards teenagers. Since the show is so popular and influential, and teenagers are more easily swayed to follow popular culture, whichever artist appears on it surely must be worth checking out.
Remember though, those are actors and actresses. That's not that big of a deal but when it comes to music it's a different story. Everywhere I go, people just assume all Asians are 'Chinese' and they all speak 'Chinese' and then they don't even pay any attention to Asian stuff (unless it's food). And like Luv ~Venus~ said, it's probably that they don't think they can speak english....and most people in America don't want to listen to someone who can't speak english.

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I don't think it's like that at all. I think America has come a long from that "Me so horny" crap and are accepting not just Asians but a large variety of cultures into the music busy even htough it's little by little. I think the only problem with Americans liking an Asian artist might be because of their english. No American [excluding us] doesn't want to hear an artist that they can't understand and that's the truth.

BoA and Hikki's music is appealing enough to be a success, if their record label would promote them right. Exodus had all the right tunes, beats, whatever to be a success but yall know she got that crappy promotion. Everyone knows that the way to be successful in the music biz is to be promoted on MTV's TRL. XD Seriously, it is.

Well, anyway....

This year will be great year for Asian artists. There is going to be quite a lot of them debuting here. [yay!] And after all that "Tila Tequla" stuff, I don't think MTV fans would turn down asian people much anymore. lol

Well I still think a lot of Americans are pretty racist against Asians here when it comes to music and Asian stuff. They just start judging right away and don't even give it some Asian stuff a chance. Like the movies and all (with the exception of a few)...and the music...every Japanese artist (basically) who has tried to debut in America failed miserably. It could be because of lack of promotion but who knows? I know that's what happened with Utada.

Also, I don't understand why Americans debut in Japan and are well-accepted for the most part...but when it's the other way around it never works out.

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Wow, I hope she makes it, it could help Asian Music come more popular in America. Plus BoA is great and I'll be glad if she gets the success she deserves.
Lol they thought the same thing with Utada and we all saw what happened with that....
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Lol they thought the same thing with Utada and we all saw what happened with that....
I think Utada would have done a lot better if she'd gotten better promotion.
I really hope BoA does well, though. Even if the album sucks, I'll probably still buy it.
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I think Utada would have done a lot better if she'd gotten better promotion.
I really hope BoA does well, though. Even if the album sucks, I'll probably still buy it.
I saw Utada's album well enough when I was here. She would have her own cardboard cutout with a shelf of CDs in it, whenever I walked into some record stores. I think for an entirely new artist with an ethnicity that went against the mainstream popularity, she actually had decent promotion. After all, she did have her own special segment on MTV and commercials for her album. Not many newcomers are lucky enough to get those. I think her lack of success was that she didn't have a single that appealed to a broad genre of audiences, something a lot of other newcomers were able to get lucky with.
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Remember though, those are actors and actresses. That's not that big of a deal but when it comes to music it's a different story. Everywhere I go, people just assume all Asians are 'Chinese' and they all speak 'Chinese' and then they don't even pay any attention to Asian stuff (unless it's food). And like Luv ~Venus~ said, it's probably that they don't think they can speak english....and most people in America don't want to listen to someone who can't speak english.




Well I still think a lot of Americans are pretty racist against Asians here when it comes to music and Asian stuff. They just start judging right away and don't even give it some Asian stuff a chance. Like the movies and all (with the exception of a few)...and the music...every Japanese artist (basically) who has tried to debut in America failed miserably. It could be because of lack of promotion but who knows? I know that's what happened with Utada.

Also, I don't understand why Americans debut in Japan and are well-accepted for the most part...but when it's the other way around it never works out.
I'm sorry I just think this statement is BS. Maybe were you live it's like that but generalizing every American is like saying every British person carries an umbrella and shouts "Bloody Hell!". Lol.

I think the reason why an Asian hasn't really made it over here is because you never really see very many in the media. Asian's haven't contributed to the music scene and brought a new sound. The Hispanics brought their own flavor to the table, Europeans have, as well as Blacks. But Asians haven't really done that. Maybe in their native country or in underground circles, but as far as reaching the U.S. mainstream audience they haven't done anything. Look at Kung-fu/Martial-Arts, Anime, and Asian Movies/Foods. It's so famous and well known because it was brought into the mainstream instead of staying in the darkness. I think if more Asians came out into the wood's and got with a record company that wasn't scared to promote them I think we would have been had a huge Asian singer. Record companies are scared because it's like venturing into the unknown. And we know how huge record companies are about taking risk's. They don't like doing that, lol.

But as for this deal with BoA? Meh. Her music is really not that good to tell you the truth. To me she kind of has a mediocre/manufactored sound. Not trying to hate but that's just how I view her rmusic. But hey, if she actually pulls through and releases a full English album, I guarantee she'll have better promotion than Hikki, and it could sell well and she'll be known as the first mainstream Asian artist. In one hand I think it'll flop, but in the other as I look at the crap that's hitting it big over here now she'll probably have a good chance if she's promoted good.

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Everywhere I go, people just assume all Asians are 'Chinese' and they all speak 'Chinese' and then they don't even pay any attention to Asian stuff (unless it's food).
You think that's just Asians? Lol, every ethnicity has a sterotype. I don't think that garners towards their never being a mainstream popular artist. But that's just my opinion anyway...

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I saw Utada's album well enough when I was here. She would have her own cardboard cutout with a shelf of CDs in it, whenever I walked into some record stores. I think for an entirely new artist with an ethnicity that went against the mainstream popularity, she actually had decent promotion. After all, she did have her own special segment on MTV and commercials for her album. Not many newcomers are lucky enough to get those. I think her lack of success was that she didn't have a single that appealed to a broad genre of audiences, something a lot of other newcomers were able to get lucky with.
Maybe you live in a bigger city like LA because in normal places I saw diddley squat. Matter of fact, when I went to go buy her cd it was pushed way to the back of the shelf. That was after I went to 2 other stores who didn't even carry her cd! The only way I saw or heard about her was that segment on MTV. I wasn't the only one either. Most people across the country didn't know who she was. Plus her single "Easy Breezy" was lame as hell, lol. I love her but that song should have stayed as an album filler if anything else...
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Maybe you live in a bigger city like LA because in normal places I saw diddley squat. Matter of fact, when I went to go buy her cd it was pushed way to the back of the shelf. That was after I went to 2 other stores who didn't even carry her cd! The only way I saw or heard about her was that segment on MTV. I wasn't the only one either. Most people across the country didn't know who she was. Plus her single "Easy Breezy" was lame as hell, lol. I love her but that song should have stayed as an album filler if anything else...
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