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Old 26th October 2008, 01:36 PM
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Sorry but Hikki's known for her bad PVs. wtf is traveling about? JEWEL, Marionette, etc. etc. own those clips ANY day.

(And I like Hikki's music to but that's just the way.)

Ayu's high budget PVs DO tend to turn out the best IMO. Otherwise where does the money go?
omg, how can someone seriously be so ignorant. look at the songtext of traveling and you understand, and even without, the PV is very fitting to the song name. what the hell is JEWEL about? about ayu sitting in bling bling? ayu understands to hide her messages in nonsensical PVs which show of her beauty but nothing else usually. lately, I was especially disappointed by Together When...'s PV. omg, poor ayu, crying again fake tears. seen that before.

Marionette was her only good PV from the GUILTY era imho.

but hikki's PVs lately suck too. but at least she has some really artistic **** like traveling, SAKURA Drops, Deep River, Keep Tryin' and Passion. I love how fitting they are to her music.
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Old 26th October 2008, 03:00 PM
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omg, how can someone seriously be so ignorant. look at the songtext of traveling and you understand, and even without, the PV is very fitting to the song name. what the hell is JEWEL about? about ayu sitting in bling bling? ayu understands to hide her messages in nonsensical PVs which show of her beauty but nothing else usually. lately, I was especially disappointed by Together When...'s PV. omg, poor ayu, crying again fake tears. seen that before.

Marionette was her only good PV from the GUILTY era imho.

but hikki's PVs lately suck too. but at least she has some really artistic **** like traveling, SAKURA Drops, Deep River, Keep Tryin' and Passion. I love how fitting they are to her music.
How can YOU be so ignorance???

The whole thing about JEWEL is she is talking about her "treasure," in the last line, she says "My important treasure."
I think it only makes sense for her to be in a winterland of treasures, if she is talking about that.
She is talking about how her treasure made her feel peace and kindness, and she is peacefully and looking kind in the PV.
So I don't know what's the problem of JEWEL...

Did you wanna her to be happy and dancing in Together When...?
How do you know it's a fake? Can you know her real emotions?

Out of all the pv you mention, I think Marionette is the one with least meaning, yet you wanna say its the best? I'm so confused at what kind of pv you like.

don't leave me alone's pv was so good too... except the pants.. ahaha
She was saying how she changes to adapt to things with the change ties,
And how she must always find ways for her to make things feel less hurtful.

I think maybe you gotta re-think about it..
I find a lot of the times Utada Hikaru has really bad pvs.
Much worse than Ayumi. (like Heart Station? Prisoner of Love? ._.); )

I just think you should stop making bad talk about someone which a bbs is dedicated to..
You can take your extreme criticisms of her somewhere who hates her.
Because obviously, people her will defend her so much, so no points.

unless you wanna stir trouble~ LOL

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Old 26th October 2008, 03:19 PM
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How can YOU be so ignorance???

The whole thing about JEWEL is she is talking about her "treasure," in the last line, she says "My important treasure."
I think it only makes sense for her to be in a winterland of treasures, if she is talking about that.
She is talking about how her treasure made her feel peace and kindness, and she is peacefully and looking kind in the PV.
So I don't know what's the problem of JEWEL...

Did you wanna her to be happy and dancing in Together When...?
How do you know it's a fake? Can you know her real emotions?

Out of all the pv you mention, I think Marionette is the one with least meaning, yet you wanna say its the best? I'm so confused at what kind of pv you like.

don't leave me alone's pv was so good too... except the pants.. ahaha
She was saying how she changes to adapt to things with the change ties,
And how she must always find ways for her to make things feel less hurtful.

I think maybe you gotta re-think about it..
I find a lot of the times Utada Hikaru has really bad pvs.
Much worse than Ayumi. (like Heart Station? Prisoner of Love? ._.); )

I just think you should stop making bad talk about someone which a bbs is dedicated to..
You can take your extreme criticisms of her somewhere who hates her.
Because obviously, people her will defend her so much, so no points.

unless you wanna stir trouble~ LOL
Sometimes it's hard to understand Ayu's PVs if you don't understand the lyrics.
Hikki's PVs were cool back in the days when she was married. The pre-Deep River ones, and post UB ones suck terribly and that's a fact ^^, not just a matter of opinion XD
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Old 26th October 2008, 03:19 PM
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How can YOU be so ignorance???

The whole thing about JEWEL is she is talking about her "treasure," in the last line, she says "My important treasure."
I think it only makes sense for her to be in a winterland of treasures, if she is talking about that.
She is talking about how her treasure made her feel peace and kindness, and she is peacefully and looking kind in the PV.
So I don't know what's the problem of JEWEL...

Did you wanna her to be happy and dancing in Together When...?
How do you know it's a fake? Can you know her real emotions?

Out of all the pv you mention, I think Marionette is the one with least meaning, yet you wanna say its the best? I'm so confused at what kind of pv you like.

don't leave me alone's pv was so good too... except the pants.. ahaha
She was saying how she changes to adapt to things with the change ties,
And how she must always find ways for her to make things feel less hurtful.

I think maybe you gotta re-think about it..
I find a lot of the times Utada Hikaru has really bad pvs.
Much worse than Ayumi. (like Heart Station? Prisoner of Love? ._.)

I just think you should stop making bad talk about someone which a bbs is dedicated to..
You can take your extreme criticisms of her somewhere who hates her.
Because obviously, people her will defend her so much, so no points.

unless you wanna stir trouble~ LOL
oh I love you XDD.
Your posts are always so cute ^-^.

Anyway it's always easy to say that ayu fans are to defending and then write hikki's PVs are the best, I like them better than ayu. Like they defend hikki and it's ok but when people defend ayu it's not.

It's also always easy to find meanings in hikki's PVs and excuse ayu's just for beauty and divaish meanings and not find the true meanings behind them and ayu's crying is always fake while it's a PV and I say - even if she had to fake it, it was for the actual PV who cares if it's fake or not it's for a story/meaningful PV! (and all that because they don't really care for ayu's PVs, but they will care for hikki's even if the whole PV is only about recording a song or sitting in a train which I'm sure they have some meaning in but still not one of her best or interesting PVs.. imo).
Ugh.

I hate those comparisons, they always get the worst of fans (both's fans).
And I also don't like fans of someone who pop somewhere and say "x PVs are better/worst than x" all of a sudden, like our new forum friend did.

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Old 26th October 2008, 03:19 PM
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Hmm...

I'm not fan of Utada Hikaru, I've listened only couple of her songs. I just watched Hikari and I think it was nice and cute. I like glam PVs, like Ayu's JEWEL, but I also like these "normal life" -PVs.

As for Ayu, she has an amazing variety of PVs, there's something for everyone. So it's really up to your personal tastes. For GREEN and Days, I don't really have any particular wishes... suprise us, Ayu!
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Old 26th October 2008, 03:34 PM
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@maikaru: I agree with you

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omg, how can someone seriously be so ignorant. look at the songtext of traveling and you understand, and even without, the PV is very fitting to the song name. what the hell is JEWEL about? about ayu sitting in bling bling? ayu understands to hide her messages in nonsensical PVs which show of her beauty but nothing else usually. lately, I was especially disappointed by Together When...'s PV. omg, poor ayu, crying again fake tears. seen that before.

Marionette was her only good PV from the GUILTY era imho.
Ignorant..because I don't like Hikki's PV? While you don't like Ayu's PVs because you can't understand the symbolism, and just call it diva-ish and looking pretty? Hmmm ok! lol~
With "what's it about?" I didn't mean it literally, but as a figure of speech like "why is it so messed up/freaky/ugly?". But still, not understanding an PV, I'd hardly call that ignorant. XD

But anyway LOL that's kind of contradictory, don't you think? Saying that traveling's PV fits the song's title, but that JEWEL's PV makes no sense. Umm, there are JEWELS in the PV? Not to mention that it also suits the lyrics.

Most of Hikki's PVs just give the impression that they lacked skill with making it and they just threw it into "LOLZ lets make it look all weird and messed up and call it artistic! Let's put a lot of people in a train thingie with weird colors and costumes!". She should'a let someone else do the PVs than her "awesome" ex. But then again I haven't seen ALL her PVs. I do really like the Passion PV and Keep Tryin' is kinda cute, though.

As for Together When, I would prefer Ayu's "moving" PVs anyday over Hikki's. Be My Last and Dareka are just so cheesy that it's ridiculous. The hit-with-the-car-scene was like wtf? It looked like a parody on the real PV (if there had been one). o_X PVs like HEAVEN and rainy day are just gorgeously fragile and moving..But that's my personal preference. After having done a take 10 times, who can really cry that perfectly? Maybe her crying just isn't that movie-style-pretty-pretty.

And actually I'm not just a fan of PRETTY PVs, because I did rather like the way they incorperated the chorus and verse timings and the turning on/off of the water crane at Hikari's PV. But it was still so boring lol.

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but hikki's PVs lately suck too. but at least she has some really artistic **** like traveling, SAKURA Drops, Deep River, Keep Tryin' and Passion. I love how fitting they are to her music.
Forgetting Ayu's Endless sorrow, RAINBOW, etc.?

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Anyway it's always easy to say that ayu fans are to defending and then write hikki's PVs are the best, I like them better than ayu. Like they defend hikki and it's ok but when people defend ayu it's not.
Hahaha~ EXACTLY!

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like our new forum friend did.
Would that be me? .____.

Anyways BACK ON TOPIC. XD I can't wait for GREEN and Days. XD

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Old 26th October 2008, 03:46 PM
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Would that be me? .____.

Anyways BACK ON TOPIC. XD I can't wait for GREEN and Days. XD
I meant to ♛_baby_ayumi_♛ XD.

and me too! I really want to know how Days sounds like!
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Old 26th October 2008, 04:04 PM
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Be My Last and Dareka are just so cheesy that it's ridiculous.
hey the PV to Dareka is connected with the movie Casshern! So it actually HAS a meaning that it's so cheesy >.<"
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Old 26th October 2008, 05:31 PM
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hey the PV to Dareka is connected with the movie Casshern! So it actually HAS a meaning that it's so cheesy >.<"
Wait, what? So because Dareka is connected to a movie, it's cheesy? o_O But..I said it's cheesy? I didn't say it didn't have a meaning. ^^;

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I meant to ♛_baby_ayumi_♛ XD.

and me too! I really want to know how Days sounds like!
Ooh ok! ^^

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