[News] 44th single: Days/GREEN & GREEN/Days (12/17 Release)

[Melrose]

Originally Posted by mizu_akira_ayu

^it was released right before (m)u, people wanted to buy the album instead of the single to save some cash since both song sand PVs will be on the album

Hmhm, I knew that, but I'm wondering why after that all her sales have gone down to. Like B&D killed 50% of her fans.

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

I think it did turn some people off. Japanese much prefer someone to be humble and B&D was the exact opposite of that, especially the PV. It was way too diva for Japan imo.

Ah, okay. Makes sense. But then to actually lose so many fans? : / Well the song is kinda meh, imo.

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

I kinda agree with that, but Ayu's PVs used to be amazing though and Together When isn't that bad. These days though, yeah they do seem to be more just about being pretty and that's about it. Or if there is a meaning in there, it's very shallow. Having a few pvs like that is fine, but not all of them.

Hmm, do you think so? Putting the Secret-GUILTY songs on a list (I might miss a few):
---- Secret
JEWEL - Very gorgeous and suits the song, great PV.
1 LOVE - Nice concept, nice images, cool PV.
BLUE BIRD - OK, this one is kinda meh, but it does suit the song nicely and the JP people loved it.
Startin' - Meh... Not Ayu. I agree this isn't a good PV.
Beautiful Fighters - Cute, suits the song, good PV.
Born To Be... - Need I say more? Bad.
momentum - Great PV, nice concept and plot twist. Great atmosphere.
---- GUILTY
(don't) Leave me alone - I actually really like this one, but I guess it could be seen as boring.
Marionette - Awesome PV, concept, artistic. Amazing atmosphere.
talkin' 2 myself - Good, nice choreography, suits the song.
decision - OK, bad. But not "looking pretty".
glitter & fated - At least they tried, right?
Together When... - Nice scenes, artistic, nice concept.

Idk, I'm not really seeing many bad PVs. Mirrorcle World was pretty nice, too.

Originally Posted by GRACE

Word to the wise for everyone after reading the last two pages. Stop feeding the troll and it will starve. Trolls get enjoyment out of people responding to their posts, because that means they've caused panic and you've let them win. baby ayumi/Luv/ashohee/DDD and all that crowd will get bored of bashing Ayu if we stop listening.

Anyway, I really hope Days is energetic and fun, because I'm really in no mood for a ballad~

OK. ^^; But Luv~Venus is a troll, too?

[Ayumiko]

I personally don't mind if Days is a ballad too....HEAVEN/will was a great single. However, it would be nice if Days is a upbeat song like step you or ladies night. As much as I love ayu's rock songs, I don't want one for this single.

[SunshineSlayer]

Originally Posted by Melrose

Hmm, do you think so? Putting the Secret-GUILTY songs on a list (I might miss a few):
---- Secret
JEWEL - Very gorgeous and suits the song, great PV.
1 LOVE - Nice concept, nice images, cool PV.
BLUE BIRD - OK, this one is kinda meh, but it does suit the song nicely and the JP people loved it.
Startin' - Meh... Not Ayu. I agree this isn't a good PV.
Beautiful Fighters - Cute, suits the song, good PV.
Born To Be... - Need I say more? Bad.
momentum - Great PV, nice concept and plot twist. Great atmosphere.
---- GUILTY
(don't) Leave me alone - I actually really like this one, but I guess it could be seen as boring.
Marionette - Awesome PV, concept, artistic. Amazing atmosphere.
talkin' 2 myself - Good, nice choreography, suits the song.
decision - OK, bad. But not "looking pretty".
glitter & fated - At least they tried, right?
Together When... - Nice scenes, artistic, nice concept.

Idk, I'm not really seeing many bad PVs. Mirrorcle World was pretty nice, too.

I really didn't think there was a single great PV on Guilty. Marionette I have always felt is kind of overrated. Talkin' 2 Myself and Together When are good, but not in the great category. On Secret, Momentum and 1 Love were the best, but still not fantastic imo. All in all, when you compare her PVs of the last two years to her previous ones they just aren't anywhere near as good I don't think. Really, prior to 2006 I thought that her only sub par PVs were B&D, Pride, and maybe a few off of a Song For Xx - other than that she had 7 years of PVs that ranged from good to amazing, many of which leaned towards the amazing side. Then, I just don't know what happened the last two years other than that she used Takehide Ishii waaaay too much and stopped using the more creative people like Kouki Tange. Or maybe people that weren't so creative, but at least knew how to light a shot and use interesting angles and good camera work like Isou and Takeishi.

btw, is there any word on who is shooting the PVs for Green/Days? Please don't let it be Takehide Ishii, Please don't let it be Takehide Ishii, Please don't let it be Takehide Ishii, Please don't let it be Takehide Ishii.

Edit: I will add though, that Jewel is very pretty and all the shots are lovely. It just shows once again how good Wataru Takeishi is with a camera. So it's a pretty PV, but I don't really have great apprecation for it beyond that.

[Melrose]

Take is from Mirrorcle World? If so I don't want him no.

But OK. XD I love her recent PVs and think her old ones are kinda meh..The ones from ASFXX and LOVEppears I really don't like..I don't think they become very good until the RAINBOW era (with exceptions, like Daybreak and Dearest). ^^ Though really it varies from album to album.. I thought MY STORY had very average PVs. I don't like About you and GAME as they're pretty much random flashes of images, etc. They were good, but I like (don't) Leave me alone and Marionette better. walking proud was just plain strange, and I prefer Together When... Humming 7/4 was boring, and CAROLS was "OK". HEAVEN isn't such a long song, so it's OK to do a one-scene thing, but CAROLS is so freaking long. o_o Where did the swinging part from the making of go anyway? I wanted that in the PV. : / Would'a been beautiful.

[ayumisrael]

Originally Posted by Melrose

Take is from Mirrorcle World? If so I don't want him no.

But OK. XD I love her recent PVs and think her old ones are kinda meh..The ones from ASFXX and LOVEppears I really don't like..I don't think they become very good until the RAINBOW era (with exceptions, like Daybreak and Dearest). ^^ Though really it varies from album to album.. I thought MY STORY had very average PVs. I don't like About you and GAME as they're pretty much random flashes of images, etc. They were good, but I like (don't) Leave me alone and Marionette better. walking proud was just plain strange, and I prefer Together When... Humming 7/4 was boring, and CAROLS was "OK". HEAVEN isn't such a long song, so it's OK to do a one-scene thing, but CAROLS is so freaking long. o_o Where did the swinging part from the making of go anyway? I wanted that in the PV. : / Would'a been beautiful.

LOL at the long parts XDDD.

I really really really wanted to see ayu swinging too! It would so fit the song (and the amazing cover) T_T.
Too bad there was no CAROLS -Another PV Version- but as we know they didn't shot the swinging scenes because of the storms at that place over that time. Stupid storms.

I think that someone said here that MW's PV director is the same for GREEN but before the freak out people need to give him another chance, the shots look good, but let's see the PV before we judge XD.

[SunshineSlayer]

Originally Posted by ayumisrael

LOL at the long parts XDDD.

I really really really wanted to see ayu swinging too! It would so fit the song (and the amazing cover) T_T.
Too bad there was no CAROLS -Another PV Version- but as we know they didn't shot the swinging scenes because of the storms at that place over that time. Stupid storms.

I think that someone said here that MW's PV director is the same for GREEN but before the freak out people need to give him another chance, the shots look good, but let's see the PV before we judge XD.

More than the director, it's Ayu over the top facial expression in MW that almost ruin the PV for me. Seriously, I have to laugh when she is walking in the trench coat; no way that can be taken seriously.

Originally Posted by Melrose

Take is from Mirrorcle World? If so I don't want him no.

But OK. XD I love her recent PVs and think her old ones are kinda meh..The ones from ASFXX and LOVEppears I really don't like..I don't think they become very good until the RAINBOW era (with exceptions, like Daybreak and Dearest). ^^ Though really it varies from album to album.. I thought MY STORY had very average PVs. I don't like About you and GAME as they're pretty much random flashes of images, etc. They were good, but I like (don't) Leave me alone and Marionette better. walking proud was just plain strange, and I prefer Together When... Humming 7/4 was boring, and CAROLS was "OK". HEAVEN isn't such a long song, so it's OK to do a one-scene thing, but CAROLS is so freaking long. o_o Where did the swinging part from the making of go anyway? I wanted that in the PV. : / Would'a been beautiful.

Mirrocle World was actually Kazuyoshi Shimomura. Takahide Ishii did such gems as Startin', Born to Be, and Blue Bird. However he did also do Momentum, so he does have the capacity to not be total crap, but his track record isn't that good. Although, Momentum is good because the story/concept is good, not that his direction is really that good.

That's why even Ayu's somewhat simple PVs from the past like Carols or even evolution etc I still find to be very good. They may not have a great story, but those pvs were always shot extremely well. (the cinematography and what not)

[ayumisrael]

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

More than the director, it's Ayu over the top facial expression in MW that almost ruin the PV for me. Seriously, I have to laugh when she is walking in the trench coat; no way that can be taken seriously.

I know it was so divaish that me and my friend was on the floor as we enjoyed that PV with the whole matrix feeling into it XD.
I love this PV FOR the exaggerations ^-^.
Though 1 MW is enough I say, I like this PV and I hope it will stay unique with the whole idea.

GREEN PV looks it's going to be different with the whole wig and the dragon parade thingy, but we will see.

[jbrat2219]

Originally Posted by Melrose

Take is from Mirrorcle World? If so I don't want him no.

But OK. XD I love her recent PVs and think her old ones are kinda meh..The ones from ASFXX and LOVEppears I really don't like..I don't think they become very good until the RAINBOW era (with exceptions, like Daybreak and Dearest). ^^ Though really it varies from album to album.. I thought MY STORY had very average PVs. I don't like About you and GAME as they're pretty much random flashes of images, etc. They were good, but I like (don't) Leave me alone and Marionette better. walking proud was just plain strange, and I prefer Together When... Humming 7/4 was boring, and CAROLS was "OK". HEAVEN isn't such a long song, so it's OK to do a one-scene thing, but CAROLS is so freaking long. o_o Where did the swinging part from the making of go anyway? I wanted that in the PV. : / Would'a been beautiful.

I agree, I don't know what people mean by "older PVs" when they say they prefer them over the new ones... Because A Song for XX and LOVEppears PVs were... not very good ><; I mean back in the day when you first saw them, maybe... (like when I first saw Fly high I thought it was so fun, not so much now...) but compared to her new ones, I don't think they hold a candle... Sure her new ones aren't perfect, but I do think they're better. And I also think/hope GREEN and Days will be another two great PVs.

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

That's why even Ayu's somewhat simple PVs from the past like Carols or even evolution etc I still find to be very good. They may not have a great story, but those pvs were always shot extremely well. (the cinematography and what not)

I guess if you're more into how it was shot, those PVs would seem better... to be honest, I don't pay much attention to that stuff unless it's hard to not notice how bad/good it is...

[LEOyumi]

Quoting melrose (because the post was too big and I was lazy to edit:


glitter & fated - At least they tried, right?

LOOOOOOOOOOOL I just burst off with that! XD

[Zeke.]

baby_ayumi: (Hope I got your attention, ha ha) I just want to say I do feel bad for the bashing you seem to be recieving for voicing your opinion, but it just seems you are wording your criticism of Ayu a little to harshly...? I mean some of the things you have said really are cut-deep comments. Yes, lately Ayu's PVs haven't been the greatest, although Together When... and Marionette were amazing. Her music quality isn't increasing at all, but I do have to agree that even though I love her ROCK stuff, it's a little too much right after the other - change it up a little bit Ayu, ha ha. And referring to your comment regarding "she is no longer the queen" or something and how "Namie has beaten her" ... Namie was in the sewage gutter for a while there. Lol. Some of her stuff was good but she was NOT on top until recently. Ayu will always be the QUEEN, even though her sales are no longer 4,000,000 - she still accomplished more than anyone and her tours are the grandest of them all.
All in all, I am sorry for all the members ganging up on you, but they have a point. Just keep your criticism more subtle? Ha ha.

[Milox]

I hope these covers are ala MW and not Blue Bird like. As in, you can atleast see some difference in the covers

[greggerz189]

I want to see another artsy-looking cover like Endless sorrow.

[SunshineSlayer]

Originally Posted by greggerz189

I want to see another artsy-looking cover like Endless sorrow.

That would be nice. I don't think we will get it though.

[rakeru]

i feel like Days is going to be a rockish ballad. but then again, i'm never right about these things. i thought decision was going to be a slow song

[truehappiness]

Supposedly, GREEN is directed by Kazuyoshi Shimomura and has the same team working on it as Distance Love.

[futureLOVE]

^

...i hope that doesnt mean this is going to be Distance Love~prequel~ lol

ugh i couldn't stand those PVs but it was a nice effort

[a_kingdom21]

i think ayu pvs are amazing.....

i can say like this isnot becuz i'm a big fan of ayu but here in my country in indonesia where j-pop are really not familiar,my friend who dont like j-pop neither said that ayus pv are amazing whereas they arnt fans of ayu, they said that ayus pv are great with many creative ideas....

when the ayu-hater said that ayu just keep going on showing her prettines,i thought that they just felt envy about ayus face.....(*^_^*)

n ayu's pv have a great meaning i guess,,,,,,
if u understand about the meaning of the song u'll get understand about the pv...
n i think they're a "heavy" pv cuz we cant directly understand about the pv,n we have to think hard to guess what is the meaning of those pvs are...

n btw....

i dunt realy like a love-story-line pv like glitter/fated they seems like a regular pv whose many artists did.
n i guess glitter up-beat rhytm doesnt suit with the pv.....

i hope this new pv will be amazing just like ayu used to be.....

i'm really lookin forward to watching the pv soon.....

[LacusClyne]

^nooo more Distance Love, it's too c-pop movie/mv ish

[TITANIC]

time for buying new single.. yiihhaa

[AMANDABYNES]

I predict this single will be a HIT and sell at LEAST 350k.