[Utada Hikaru] ٠•♥She Wanna See The Bottles Poppin' In Her 28th Thread♥•٠

[HonMaru]

Originally Posted by kang daesung

Please reread this statement and tell me how that makes any sense. Because I don't get it. R&B is Utada's original genre, how is she trying too hard to be fit into a section of music that she's always been in?

Just because R&B is her original genre doesn't mean this latest album is any good. I think what JackieRos was trying to say in the "try too hard" comment was that this latest return to her roots came out contrived and is missing some soul in the music.

[emi♡]

Originally Posted by TeeMo

Her voice is truly amazing. But I'd still prefer BoA's voice....(But I still love Hikki's voice.^^)

really? I'm different lol...BoA's voice literally ruins her music for me...kinda feel bad about it...but oh well...

About the hikki's style thing...I don't know you know...she always, I mean R&B is supposed to be her style and genre, but I always kind of saw her music as devoid of a genre lol it's so different...that being said, I think she knows exactly what she is doing when she has something sound a certain way, I mean, she's very smart, and she knows a ton about music...The album was supposed to be mainstream, and R&B and pop. A lot of the songs for me are like throwbacks to those genres in the past.

The album sounds...exactly how she wanted it to...so...I don't know if I'd say she was trying too hard...she tried for something, and accomplished it.

I actually think it's not as R&B and mainstream as it really could have been...you still don't hear a lot of songs on the radio that sound like the ones on this album...

[Polyrhythm]

^Its not BoA's voice that ruins her music....its that lame vocodor they made her use that makes her voice sound all electronicky and fake. What she needs are a couple of ballads to showcase her pipes

[emi♡]

oh no...I mean, that's just for me, like my own bias.

I never liked any of her music because her voice annoys me lol there are only a few songs i like.


I don't really know about the encoder things...I thought they were okay...I mean, it's all that kind of music anyway lol

[kang daesung]

Originally Posted by HonMaru

Just because R&B is her original genre doesn't mean this latest album is any good. I think what JackieRos was trying to say in the "try too hard" comment was that this latest return to her roots came out contrived and is missing some soul in the music.

Except that's not what he said. He said that she's trying too hard to be R&B, which he then admitted was her genre. So how can one try "too hard" to be a genre they're already in?

I've noticed a lot of the fans who like TITO are the ones who enjoy her older stuff and/or like American music, and those who hate TITO are the ones who only like post-DEEP RIVER and/or dislike American music.

[FuNsTyLe]

^^ Yeah I noticed that too. And it's okay, but then people must realise that Utada and Hikaru Utada are two different artists, not the same.
She said it herself. Hikaru Utada is her Japanese artist-name, and that artist makes different music that Utada, which is making music for American audience, and therefor it sounds different. As she said in the Sephora Interview; "My Japanese songs are Japanese and will not be translated to English"

I for one really like both artists in their own ways...

People need to stop comparing her Japanese work with er English work, they are two very different projects.

[sparkle glitter]

I love American music, but I hate TITO. Stick with what you're good at Hikki.

[bluegie]

Originally Posted by kang daesung

I've noticed a lot of the fans who like TITO are the ones who enjoy her older stuff and/or like American music, and those who hate TITO are the ones who only like post-DEEP RIVER and/or dislike American music.

I guess I'm the exception then. To me TITO doesn't sound anything pre-Deep River at all. Of course I love things after Deep River, but for me DR was still her greatest era in terms of her music. I dun even know how you can compared TITO with anything hikki has done. Like FuNsTyLe said, Utada and hikki are technically two different artists. It's like you're comparing a dolphin with a whale. Honestly I only like hikki.

TITO sounds too generic (mainstream American R&B). I treat it as "just another typical R&B album".

[kang daesung]

I think people who like that kind of mainstream American music (Chris Brown, Rihanna, Beyonce, etc) will generally like TITO. And the J-Pop community is known for being made up of mostly people who rip on American top 40, R&B, hip-hop or anything they find "too mainstream," so I'm not entirely surprised that there are people who are making these kind of complaints.

Of course 5 seconds after I post this someone's going to come in and say "I am a huge Rihanna/Chris Brown/Beyonce fan and I hate TITO omg!!" but whatever

I guess there are always going to be some fans who are unhappy with her works. And yeah, FuNsTyLe, you are very right They are two different artists, and I don't ever want Utada to try to remake Utada Hikaru's music. It's just ridiculous. I would never buy an album of English stuff that sounds like ULTRA BLUE or something, that would just be a hot mess (and an even bigger flop than EXODUS).

[Yum!Fruit_Salad!]

Originally Posted by kang daesung

I've noticed a lot of the fans who like TITO are the ones who enjoy her older stuff and/or like American music, and those who hate TITO are the ones who only like post-DEEP RIVER and/or dislike American music.

I second the exception. Had my doubts when CBTM was released but listening to TITO a bit, I really like it. I like Exodus more than TITO but it stands strong in my book. Deep River will be the perfection of Hikki's Japanese career to me. Everything released afterwards I pretty much love/like to a great degree with a few misses.

[Melon Panda]

Personally, I don't think This Is The One is her best work, but it's not bad. It didn't blow me away or anything, but a few tracks stuck in my head for a while.

(I'm hoping she attempts the orchestra and/or rock genre next.)

[ayumixfan]

Originally Posted by emiko

really? I'm different lol...BoA's voice literally ruins her music for me...kinda feel bad about it...but oh well...

About the hikki's style thing...I don't know you know...she always, I mean R&B is supposed to be her style and genre, but I always kind of saw her music as devoid of a genre lol it's so different...that being said, I think she knows exactly what she is doing when she has something sound a certain way, I mean, she's very smart, and she knows a ton about music...The album was supposed to be mainstream, and R&B and pop. A lot of the songs for me are like throwbacks to those genres in the past.

The album sounds...exactly how she wanted it to...so...I don't know if I'd say she was trying too hard...she tried for something, and accomplished it.

I actually think it's not as R&B and mainstream as it really could have been...you still don't hear a lot of songs on the radio that sound like the ones on this album...

^ lol BoA + britney sounding music = bad idea :S lol her songs are catchy I guess but they're just not that great because her voice doesn't suit it.

I agree with utada she did achieve what she wants. An album that resembles music of the past and i think it definietly gives me that vibe lol. The only setback is that the american public might not accept that :S!

[v3lun420]

Originally Posted by kang daesung

I think people who like that kind of mainstream American music (Chris Brown, Rihanna, Beyonce, etc) will generally like TITO. And the J-Pop community is known for being made up of mostly people who rip on American top 40, R&B, hip-hop or anything they find "too mainstream," so I'm not entirely surprised that there are people who are making these kind of complaints.

Of course 5 seconds after I post this someone's going to come in and say "I am a huge Rihanna/Chris Brown/Beyonce fan and I hate TITO omg!!" but whatever

I guess there are always going to be some fans who are unhappy with her works. And yeah, FuNsTyLe, you are very right They are two different artists, and I don't ever want Utada to try to remake Utada Hikaru's music. It's just ridiculous. I would never buy an album of English stuff that sounds like ULTRA BLUE or something, that would just be a hot mess (and an even bigger flop than EXODUS).

I HATE American Music like Rihanna, CB, blah3x. But Surprisingly I LOVE TitO a lot. I bought Exodus and it was such a huge disappointment to me, AT first I really hoped for nothing for TitO, but then I DL-ed them, didn't even bother to buy one and heard it. And OMG.... I LOVE it. I changed my mind right away... I'll buy one copy when her album hits the store here in US. Exodus worked poorly for me, but This (is the) One works wonderful for me

[kang daesung]

Originally Posted by v3lun420

Exodus worked poorly for me, but This (is the) One works wonderful for me

I so agree EXODUS was a hot mess, IMO.

Anyone notice how people only started talking about how great EXODUS was once CBTM and other TITO tracks came out? A year ago, everyone was hating on it. I think as albums age, people like them more and more. Like when UB first came out, I remember people hated it so much, and now it's a total favorite.

Originally Posted by Melon Panda

I'm hoping she attempts the orchestra and/or rock genre next.

[bluegie]

It's weird that I disagree your msgs today kang (are you ddd btw?). No, I still dislike Exodus. Actually I dislike most of the English materials released by hikki.. I mean Utada. I dunno why but none of her English songs have any huge impact to me as compared to her Japanese sides. Her Japanese works are more.. erhhmm.. philosophical. It feels like a blossom when listening to her songs like Deep River, SAKURA doroppusu, HEART STATION, Passion (yeah there are too many and I just name a few of them).

Edit: ooh that's just my personal preference about hikki, nothing against you .

[kang daesung]

^IDK.

Anyway, I'm so impressed with how well TITO is doing on the Oricon charts still. It's up to #5 today. It might actually have a better position for this week than it did last week. I knew this CD would have longevity in Japan!

[hpg23]

For me, Exodus was a total masterpiece (and was a total masterpiece for me back in 2004, although I agree with the theory of people loving albums more as they age). I don´t know, that album was just so very well written, and she was really trying out new things and experimenting with new sounds and genres and even visuals on the music videos and covers. For me, it was an evolution on Utada´s career and a key album on her discography. I prefer it a thousand times over ULTRA BLUE or First Love.

With This Is The One, she is playing more on the safe side, which is not a bad thing, but for me, it lacks that "power" and that bold atttitude that Exodus had. And honestly, if this was not Utada, and this album was released by, say, any other random American artist, no one would care, and I would like to see the reactions for it on the General Music chat. I think that they will not praise it as much as they do now. Just cause is Utada doesn´t means is great.

It´s an ok album, but definitely it´s really below Utada´s general standards of quality, and it lacks the identity that she is famous for.

[ayuayu798]

^ I could'nt have sade any better myself

[KarenPang]

^ I 2nd that as well

Lyrically , I definitely prefer This Is The One . Some of the stuff on Exodus were , I can't believe she wrote about certain issues but you can definitely tell that This Is The One's more mellow & less upbeat than Exodus , stuff that you can play real easily in a club

I guess this time round she wanted to do something more accessible to the masses

[ayumisrael]

^I 3rd that.
And I agree with bluegie.
I did like 5 songs off EXODUS though I'm not listening to them often I mainly listen to her japanese songs which are far superior to her english songs.

I wouldn't mind if EXODUS was be the only Utada album exist, I think she did with it what she wanted (and she said it herself) and I don't know a strong reason for keeping the Utada. She said she wanted to make a good pop album and it's a good intension, but I do wonder that after she says a thing like "I did everything I wanted to do with EXODUS" how come there are still things that popped to her mind to keep doing as Utada. hikki is far more superior (and I kinda wish there will be only Utada Hikaru). I don't mind the lyrics now but even how her japanese songs sound, they have got power in them.