ARENA TOUR 2009 A ~NEXT LEVEL~ setlist and pictures [III]

[truehappiness]

Thank you, TakaSama.

The DVD for this will probably be out in January or February 2010 judging by the October finale date. As for a TV version, there is only a month or so between the two legs of the tour [with the month inbetween being a-nation] but.. we could still get SOMETHING. Like a digest of clips in some sort of release.. maybe..?

I always find it hilarious how when Ayu sings terribly, people are all up in arms over it and then when she sings rather well, people accuse her of using a vocal track. I don't think people are being fair, to be honest.. haha.

Why didn´t post the entire review instead a short one?

What´s the point in let us in suspense? xD

Probably gonna take a while to type out like 4 pages of review. I recall some reviews were really long after a short little blurb about how good the show was, haha. So don't get your panties in a bunch.

I bet Ayu could release a pile of dog crap as an album and people would still say it sounded totally awesome.

Depends on the person listening. I mean a lot of people don't exactly like Bjork and loads of people love her. -isn't a Bjork fan really- Haha.

[Zacek]

Thanks for the report! I'm waiting for a full review!

[TeddyGrahams]

njanjayrp@ you're my hero! haha

Anyways, omgosh! I'm loving NL tour so far. So lovely. and thanks TaKasama! ^^ Glad to hear some positives in this thread.

[freedreamer]

^ I'LL JOIN BOTH OF U IN THAT IDEA
somehow GUILTY fit my life so I loved it. NEXT LEVEL offered something bright and new...which is just great

[aura~]

^me too, I love both extrems and GUILTY has a lot of great songs!

and taka-sama, i'm anxious to read your report!!

AAAAAH!!! I WANT TO GO T____T WHYYY??? why I have to go to university and pay for a room this year and can't spend this money to go and see ayu's tour??? WHYYY??!! -_________-

[freedreamer]

everytime i listen to NEXT LEVEL...i keep having that craving for a dark song to just add that spice..(and the closest would be Sparkle...for the mysterious part) LOL

[MissElin_]

Personally...

GUILT > NEXT LEVEL

Just because GUILTY came closer to me and did have more variety imo. But yes both albums are great. Now Im just waiting for the middle between GUILTY and NL meaning I am...(album) pt. 2!

[noidea]

^ OMG, perfect xD I just noticed how that describtion exactly fits I Am... and how I Am... kind of is my favourite album together with GUILTY

[jbrat2219]

Originally Posted by MissElin_

Now Im just waiting for the middle between GUILTY and NL meaning I am...(album) pt. 2!

Yessssssss \(T_T)/

[truehappiness]

I don't think we'll get a TV version for this. The break inbetween isn't long enough to warrant one.

Ayu sometimes synchs only parts of the songs...(many UNITE! choruses, some evolution choruses, ANGEL's SONG CDL0809 had the last lines live(and out of breath) as well...) But I don't want to start a discussion now, I will wait for a TV or DVD release to say she sung it live or playback, this is only to say that thats not much of a proof when it comes to ayu xD

... why are you throwing around your speculation as fact?

[Ayumiko]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

... why are you throwing around your speculation as fact?

agreed

[JackieRos]

omg where the hell have i been i missed the whole first threads fill me in
(too lazy to read)

[njanjayrp]

Originally Posted by JackieRos

omg where the hell have i been i missed the whole first threads fill me in
(too lazy to read)

I think that is going to be very hard

@Ayusan - thank you~
@truehappiness - Yeah, that's what I've been wondering too, but at least lip syncing parts of the songs would make more sense xD But then again, please, let's not start the whole lip syncing talk again.

[rookies]

Originally Posted by JackieRos

omg where the hell have i been i missed the whole first threads fill me in
(too lazy to read)

Just read through the first post of this thread, it has all the important info / videos / pics, so there's really no need to look through all the posts of all the threads.

[jbrat2219]

Lol. I would have to be super focused to lip sync parts of a song. Knowing when to come in and when to shut up.

[noidea]

^ No, she doesnt, because its usually the chorus...also, her mic is turned off when she synchs, so she doesnt have to care at all, she just cant shout things when shes synching

@truehappiness
If she uses the same playback several times...its not speculation but fact...and you are starting the discussion again, please stop it. The only "speculation" is about the end of ANGEL'S SONG, but no mic-noises for all the song and then suddenly mic-noise(and out of breath) for the last lines IS proof, because the possibility of that happenign is near 0.00000001% or something...they would have to add micnoises on the playback with a computer, but they would have done for all the song and not for the last 4 lines
Takasama is speculating and letting it sound like a fact("I know she sung live because she was out of breath") but you only mind if it doesnt make ayu seem like a goddess, do you?
Ayu sings live!(speculation without evidence(or however that word is written in english))
you: no comment
Ayu sings playback!(speculation with evidence)
you: STOP SPECULATING!!!
Isnt both exactly the same? And both is possible in the same way.

[TakaSama]

Sorry about this, if you don't want to get into the discussion of lip synching, please skip this post.

Originally Posted by noidea

Takasama is speculating and letting it sound like a fact("I know she sung live because she was out of breath") but you only mind if it doesnt make ayu seem like a goddess, do you?

Interesting that I'm getting brought into this. Actually, I know that Ayu has lipsynced in the past, and I don't deny that. HOWEVER, I know what her lipsynced songs tend to sound like, and EnergizE DID NOT sound like lipsyncing. And, unlike your assumption about me, I was watching for lip synching, because I didn't trust Ayu NOT to do it based on previously existing speculation.

More fully expounding on what I saw and heard during this song : Ayu used her cute voice, but it seemed to strain her. She would drop syllables, for example "dakara tte wake janakute" came out like "dakara __ wake janakute" because she couldn't keep up with the movement and the singing consistantly. Those syllable drops became more noticable as the song went on, and she became more out of breath. Also, the English bits of the song were louder than the rest of the singing, and therefore MAY have been lipped, but I'm tentatively attributing it to the fact that Peko/Princess were singing along.

[noidea]

Originally Posted by TakaSama

Sorry about this, if you don't want to get into the discussion of lip synching, please skip this post.



Interesting that I'm getting brought into this. Actually, I know that Ayu has lipsynced in the past, and I don't deny that. HOWEVER, I know what her lipsynced songs tend to sound like, and EnergizE DID NOT sound like lipsyncing. And, unlike your assumption about me, I was watching for lip synching, because I didn't trust Ayu NOT to do it based on previously existing speculation.

More fully expounding on what I saw and heard during this song : Ayu used her cute voice, but it seemed to strain her. She would drop syllables, for example "dakara tte wake janakute" came out like "dakara __ wake janakute" because she couldn't keep up with the movement and the singing consistantly. Those syllable drops became more noticable as the song went on, and she became more out of breath. Also, the English bits of the song were louder than the rest of the singing, and therefore MAY have been lipped, but I'm tentatively attributing it to the fact that Peko/Princess were singing along.

OK, the things about the syllabes, you didn't write that before, so I wasnt able to know. I thought you only said it was live because she sounded out of breath at the end. In the way you wrote it now, I think EnergizE is live, but it's still different from what some users read in japanese reviews, sure, its possible she changed, like lipping the first few concerts and singing live later(like Marionette AT08, she FORGOT her lyrics in the very first concert, but the two performances we saw were playback, so she changed that during the tour, and please, dont attack this line, it HAS been proven, simply by her using the same vocal track in both concert we saw AND the fancams)
This tour, to me, seems like her "I stop lipsynching!" tour anyway, the only 2 songs that were doubted were EnergizE and Identity, a really small amount of songs and it seems shes singing both live now.
Please notice that I never said you were lying, only that you didn't have any more or better arguments than I had, now you have and I believe you

[truehappiness]

Ayu sings playback!(speculation with unproven evidence)

Yeaah. At least this thread is really close to getting done with so I can start a new one, whew~

Ayu sings live!(speculation without evidence(or however that word is written in english))
you: no comment

Do you think that TakaSama is lying or something? Obviously, someone who hasn't even seen her live [you] doesn't even have credence over someone who has! [TakaSama] It appears that you have problems accepting the truth when it comes to things you feel strongly about, and I understand that, but.. wow. Blah.

[jbrat2219]

NEWS FLASH

Ayu stops performing because fans won't shut up about "speculation."

Now there's something to complain about



Come on guys, we know she sings live, we know she lip syncs. Can we please just leave it at that and not nitpick when she does or does not lip sync. It really doesn't ****ing matter O_O;