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Old 12th June 2009, 06:38 PM
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I dunno... I think if she fell ill, and it really was that serious, there's really only so much a label can do to promote a record without the person who is ON the record to be out there and promote it as well. It's like trying to promote a book without the author.

Also, if she's slated to have the next Eva movie theme released soon she probably was either working on that or they're (as I think someone mentioned previously) holding up to see if she can come up with something by now.

Y'know, Hikki isn't the only artist who does things like this. There are some artists who just never tour at all, never really promote their albums besides relying on word of mouth. Rurutia comes to mind, but there are western acts who do the same thing. I wouldn't say it makes them better than artists who go out there and do commercials and tie ins and talk shows and all sorts of stuff to get the word out about their records--nor would I stoop so low as to make a crack about another artist and their PVs--that's just what makes them different.

The band Rammstein comes to mind. For the last record Rammstein didn't do any promoting or touring, not even in Europe, which they've been so successful in for so long. Not only that but that record was a collection of songs that didn't fit on the previous one, combined with some songs they'd just recorded--so it wasn't like, brand spanking new stuff. That came out in 2005--that was four years ago and they've been on "break" ever since @_@ Though supposedly they're back in the studio recording stuff, it still is a long way to wait. Also, Portishead have nearly a 10 year gap between their second record and their third. TEN YEARS, PEOPLE D: We all thought they were bust and all our hopes were dashed until one of the guys in the group just randomly put "Yes, we're working on a new record" up on his Myspace. I mean wtf .

I don't think for most people it's a deliberate or conscious act of neglecting their work, it's just... something that happens. Rammstein are getting up there in years and all have families to think about, so I can see how they'd utilize a hiatus to its full effect by spending time with people they love. Hikki's probably just doing whatever Hikki does lol, which I've yet to really pinpoint but... I guess it involves music in some capacity.

On the other hand, I can see why people would be frustrated with Hikki. I understand that frustration because I feel a little bit of it myself. She's got the talent and the brains and the musical ability to really make it over here if she took the extra steps to solidify herself in the musical world. I think of artists who want to tour America, or who have to rely on like, anime conventions or ****** Hot Topic or "energy drink" tours just to even MAKE it over here, and then I look at Hikki who can get a record label and release music that's nowhere near what she's known for and I'm kinda like "Bzuh?" Though in the end, it really is up to her (and her management) what goes on as far as promotion and pimping out the record... it's just a pity because I'd like to see her break out of her usual Hikki ways and realize she's gotta haul ass for a different market.

idk maybe she doesn't want to lol.
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Old 12th June 2009, 07:04 PM
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Hmm why do people give them self the right to say they know what kind of person an artist is and what are her goals? It's really silly to say Utada only works and makes music cuz she is simply lovin' it. Sure if it was all about the money she'd stop years ago (she might be a Zeni Geba though, kidding). Even though she might've never used her "looks", she has exploited tie-ins like no other artist. From product CMs, games, movies, dramas - she has done it all. That's an obvious fact. That's not really a bad thing imo, many people became popular that way or at least have been able to draw some attention. On the other hand, I can't remember when was the last Utada Hikaru single released that didn't have a tie-in? In the end that won't make me like her songs any less, but it surely changed my opinion on her over the years as it seems she'll only release when there are good chances her releases will sell. Once again, I think people are really underestimating her as a business woman, she wouldn't have gone trough all the troubles of releasing the album and bragging about how she made a "good pop" album if she didn't want it to sell this time. So yeah, should she be promoting - of course.
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Old 12th June 2009, 07:42 PM
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why the hell are people arguing here
worry about hikki and not what other people think
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Old 12th June 2009, 07:59 PM
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the thread is hilarious because 90 percent of the year, when she isnt releasing new material, it's people arguing and then the remaining 10 percent is spent talking about the material she releases
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Old 12th June 2009, 08:15 PM
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^I love your exclamation mark at the end.

Some people think she's lazy. Honestly...she probably really isn't...she probably just has other things to do. Or maybe, she's just not creative or something...you know...like writer's block.

who cares...I don't understand how you can't understand people that like an artist who bothers them.

Some of us are only in it for the music and we couldn't care less about the person making it.

you never know the reason...so don't let it get your wings all aflutter.
Bur it really annoys me.... it's like the Ayu area of the forum... there are people who don't like anything she has done since... Rainbow or something that keep saying how good she was before! And I can't think about anything but "If you don't like it, let it go! Or get a life that it's not based on when jpop artists are going to release their new music! That will make it easier to wait for new releases and stuff!" ><
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Old 12th June 2009, 08:47 PM
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First, I really would like to say that I love the fact that there are fans here, like xheartstation, amorphose, greggerz189 and Andrenekoi who like the artist, but aren't afraid of giving their opinion frankly and honestly, but without bashing.
I love discussions, and especially discussions where everyone states good points that make sense.

Only the lack of use of the "enter" buttons gives idd some headache...


Then; I'd like to state my points;

NO official news has come out yet of Utada, and I think we need to pay a little attention to this.
I think she really might have had her tonsils removed if it takes already this long to give us some news.
And this is more of a dramascenario, but what if her voice is damaged?

Other thing is that she is recovered, or is recovering and is having a lot of meetings to set up a new touring and promoting plan.

Further about her "lazy" thing..
It's true that she's different from other artists in this promotional thing...
She doesn't appear in many magazines, and certainly doesn't give a lot of performances.
But she has this superstar status in Japan, ever since her first album.. People love her, whatever she might do, in Japan, and she doesn't need mega, super promotion in Japan.

I'm sure she's aware that she doesn't have the same status at all in the USA.
She was doing very good promotion untill she got sick, I think. She gave a lot of interviews, some photoshoots, performed already a few times, got on the radio, worked together with hit-makers to get more fame from that (yes she said it like that), ...
I don't know what's going on, bt we'll be hearing news from her.

Besides.. Nobody asked to do promotion yourself.. So please don't get upset as your "efforts" seem to be in vain ^^;
It's lovely that you try to promote Utada by all means, that's what I try too, all the time, but still, it's no responsibility.

Further than that, I just would say, keep it positive. It's also gotten to my nerves quite some times, that there was no new music, but when music gets there it always makes up for it ^^
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Old 12th June 2009, 08:57 PM
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That's a very good way to approach this situation, Rogue. And you're absolutely right--when Hikki gives us music, it usually makes up for the time between releases (it does for me, anyway). We just gotta keep our heads up, it seems.
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Ahh it gives me a headache to read through the last two pages.

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the thread is hilarious because 90 percent of the year, when she isnt releasing new material, it's people arguing and then the remaining 10 percent is spent talking about the material she releases
Yes it is. Since when hikki thread becomes like that I wonder... .
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Old 12th June 2009, 11:38 PM
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Uhm, maybe because the release was targeted toward the US market. It wasn't even Hikki's decision to release the album in Japan.
My point exactly. She should at least do what's required of her in terms of promotion prior to the album when her label moved to release the album in Japan in spite of being targeted toward the US market. There are parts of a job that you might not necessarily want to do or intend on doing, but it's your job, so you should do it properly for the sake of it being done well. That's why her reluctance and resistance to her label and in some ways, the industry altogether, can be seen in a negative light.

Sorry for the lack of spacing between paragraphs before, hehe.
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WTF happened to this thread? @_@
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Old 13th June 2009, 01:10 AM
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We're all restless because Hikki's been MIA ._.
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Ahh it gives me a headache to read through the last two pages.
Exactly. I couldn't read them lol.

Just....hope for the best guys, for her health I mean.
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LOL I just saw a commercial for a Nikkon camera on TV....and the song....I was like sooooooooooo familiar!! What is it?!! I remember Utada sang it....and then I was like OH! I realized it was Close to You. LOL totally random

Random thing about Utada from the singer Duffy.

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At the Grammy Awards, Duffy was greeted by Japanese-American singer Utada Hikaru, who she recalls "had a black bob and was a very sweet-looking girl!"
Source:http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-b...0090327r1.html

So for everyone who hates Utada's current hairstyle (including myself), atleast we know now its memorable. Haha.

Still no REAL news about Utada though. Sigh

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Old 13th June 2009, 05:58 AM
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Exactly. I couldn't read them lol.

Just....hope for the best guys, for her health I mean.
I know! haha I haven't been in this thread much since we started talking a couple pages back and after all the new, long posts I was like:

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My point exactly. She should at least do what's required of her in terms of promotion prior to the album when her label moved to release the album in Japan in spite of being targeted toward the US market. There are parts of a job that you might not necessarily want to do or intend on doing, but it's your job, so you should do it properly for the sake of it being done well. That's why her reluctance and resistance to her label and in some ways, the industry altogether, can be seen in a negative light.

Sorry for the lack of spacing between paragraphs before, hehe.
That's EXACTLY what I wanted to say to the people who keep saying that "she's about the music."

If she really wants to be an artist's artist then she should drop her album, record and release her music independently on the side and get a different job. Because even though she is an artist, it's still her job and if everyone else is expected to do their jobs correctly, why shouldn't pop artists?

I LOVE Hikki. She is my all time favorite artist. She's just irking me right now with all the quietness. It couldn't have come at a worse time, and I'm not saying she didn't need to take time off for her illness, because she definitely did.

But not even a blog entry or another press release from IDJ-- it's jsut unproffessional. And that's all I wanna say about it because it seems this discussion is starting to get really heated for a few people and we don't wanna get another thread trashed.


p.s. If we make it to another thread before there's any news (god, I hope not) we should name the next thread "Hikki's not doing much of anything in her 32nd thread!" XD

HIKKI COME BACK TO US~ COME BACK~

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Old 13th June 2009, 06:47 AM
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I know! haha I haven't been in this thread much since we started talking a couple pages back and after all the new, long posts I was like:



That's EXACTLY what I wanted to say to the people who keep saying that "she's about the music."

If she really wants to be an artist's artist then she should drop her album, record and release her music independently on the side and get a different job. Because even though she is an artist, it's still her job and if everyone else is expected to do their jobs correctly, why shouldn't pop artists?

I LOVE Hikki. She is my all time favorite artist. She's just irking me right now with all the quietness. It couldn't have come at a worse time, and I'm not saying she didn't need to take time off for her illness, because she definitely did.

But not even a blog entry or another press release from IDJ-- it's jsut unproffessional. And that's all I wanna say about it because it seems this discussion is starting to get really heated for a few people and we don't wanna get another thread trashed.


p.s. If we make it to another thread before there's any news (god, I hope not) we should name the next thread "Hikki's not doing much of anything in her 32nd thread!" XD

HIKKI COME BACK TO US~ COME BACK~
^_^ Yay, we're on the same page!
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Utada got sick and then her thread got sick with people popping out of nowhere exploiting the situation with their translucent motives that should have never been entertained. Well here's a little bit of medicine.

There's this little contest going on and Utada beat out Ayumi Hamasaki during her first round and made it to the next round. There are other polls going on to see who makes it to the next round with Utada and etc. and she'll battle it out once again. Keep track and vote or just relish in the fact that Utada's #1 for now at least.

Keep Track and VOTE!
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That aside, how's her music? Is it good?

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