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Old 25th October 2009, 06:12 PM
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also would it kill her to put more english in her songs or stop naming everything en english, of 11 studio/compilation albums, we only have like 5 japanese titled songs, none of which have any english in them.
I'd rather she continue titling things in English without any English in the songs themselves. And a lot of singers in Japan use solely English titles. What's wrong with that?
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Old 25th October 2009, 06:33 PM
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I think it was Now&Forever, or something.
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Old 25th October 2009, 10:47 PM
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I'd rather she continue titling things in English without any English in the songs themselves. And a lot of singers in Japan use solely English titles. What's wrong with that?
what annoys me is that every single song title is in english and she didn't speak a single word of english in them till her 4th album "Maria" wow, yeah. even her japanese titled songs are written in romaji, hana, hanabi, kanariya (it either means canary or gonorrhea, still trying to figure it out)

I don't know any japanese artists that give every single song an english title and not sing a single english word in them. (sotsugyo doesn't count cause it's a cover song). I dont think it would kill her to try it out once in a while.
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I really hope she'll smile on at least one of the covers.. She looks gorgeous when she smiles!
The last smiles we had was Secret CD-only and Glitter/Fated CD+DVD covers!

I'm hoping for something that looks like the Days/GREEN covers.. But instead of flowers I want there to be snow, and I want it to be darker.. and I want her to smile xD

*sigh* not gonna happen

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Old 26th October 2009, 12:14 AM
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the covers will be exactly the same as the sunrise/sunset covers, but there will be photoshopped snow in the background instead of water/flowers and they will photoshop on a skimpy santa outfit and hat
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I'm hoping for something that looks like the Days/GREEN covers.. But instead of flowers I want there to be snow, and I want it to be darker.. and I want her to smile xD
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Old 26th October 2009, 03:34 AM
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I really hope she'll smile on at least one of the covers.. She looks gorgeous when she smiles!
The last smiles we had was Secret CD-only and Glitter/Fated CD+DVD covers!

I'm hoping for something that looks like the Days/GREEN covers.. But instead of flowers I want there to be snow, and I want it to be darker.. and I want her to smile xD

*sigh* not gonna happen
Me too!! Come on man, don't be pessimist!!! hopefully there is going to be at least one feature of the few you mentioned. Sunrise/sunset covers were ugly, but Green/Days covers were atrocious!!!!

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I liked Sunrise covers, I just hated the background...

I am thinking this time it will be good ones, but not like some of her previous winter ones.
I hope not like No Way to Say covers though, because I hated that cover.
Like, Carols, or a cover that is not so photoshopped!!

I am expecting a lot~~~

I don't really like BALLAD title, but I am gonna see the lyrics and see how it connects, cause I dont think she would name it BALLAD just because its Ballad.



Well... i'm not so interested about the covers. Haha, as long the songs are amazing i, however have the feeling the covers will be amazing, like Mai said. I have a good feeling about these

I was disappointed with the BALLAD title, but hopefully this will be a good song, so it compensates the cheesy title ^_^

I guess i'm expecting a lot too
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I dont think it would kill her to try it out once in a while.
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AYUMI HAMASAKI NEW ALBUM:「ALBUM」 01.01.10 RELEASE
featuring the hit ballad, BALLAD

That's really funny!!!
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what annoys me is that every single song title is in english and she didn't speak a single word of english in them till her 4th album "Maria" wow, yeah. even her japanese titled songs are written in romaji, hana, hanabi, kanariya (it either means canary or gonorrhea, still trying to figure it out)

I don't know any japanese artists that give every single song an english title and not sing a single english word in them. (sotsugyo doesn't count cause it's a cover song). I dont think it would kill her to try it out once in a while.
She's been giving all of her songs English/romaji titles for ten years now. Really, deal with it. It's such a trivial thing to complain about.

So where does the logic that English title = English content come from? Have you heard of a little thing called cultural integration? I think the world is globally connected enough that the English language can be used by the Japanese as they see fit. Same way that English constantly borrows from other languages.

Ayu is using English titles! But she's Japanese! How terrible. She should be indicted!

The notion of cultural purity should die together with the days of the Final Solution.

Going over this thread, when did the forum become so whiney?

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Old 27th October 2009, 12:08 AM
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She's been giving all of her songs English/romaji titles for ten years now. Really, deal with it. It's such a trivial thing to complain about.

So where does the logic that English title = English content come from? Have you heard of a little thing called cultural integration? I think the world is globally connected enough that the English language can be used by the Japanese as they see fit. Same way that English constantly borrows from other languages.

Ayu is using English titles! But she's Japanese! How terrible. She should be indicted!

The notion of cultural purity should die together with the days of the Final Solution.

Going over this thread, when did the forum become so whiney?
it still really makes no sense,

Let's take an american artist. someone that doesn't speak a word of japanese, taylor switft! its like her album fearless, is it? having every single song title in japanese. It would make no sense, she doesn't speak a word of japanese and you turn to the back of the album and see every single song title is in kanji like sotsugyo shashin, and anata ga shite kureta koto (yes, koda kumi!)

I don't even think ayu knows what they mean. she didn't speak a word of english till just a few years ago and I bet if we went years and years back and had her read us the track list off one of her albums. she wouldn't be able to do it. it would be just as weird as if every single song off an album of hers had a title in french or swahili. Really pointless unless your incorporate that language into it.

namie has tooons of english song titled...songs. but they all have tons of english in the lyrics and yes, she has a french titled song with no french in it (moi et tu? is it?) but that is one. you don't see her naming every song she has in french.
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Old 27th October 2009, 12:12 AM
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it still really makes no sense,

Let's take an american artist. someone that doesn't speak a word of japanese, taylor switft! its like her album fearless, is it? having every single song title in japanese. It would make no sense, she doesn't speak a word of japanese and you turn to the back of the album and see every single song title is in kanji like sotsugyo shashin, and anata ga shite kureta koto (yes, koda kumi!)

I don't even think ayu knows what they mean. she didn't speak a word of english till just a few years ago and I bet if we went years and years back and had her read us the track list off one of her albums. she wouldn't be able to do it. it would be just as weird as if every single song off an album of hers had a title in french or swahili. Really pointless unless your incorporate that language into it.

namie has tooons of english song titled...songs. but they all have tons of english in the lyrics and yes, she has a french titled song with no french in it (moi et tu? is it?) but that is one. you don't see her naming every song she has in french.
ayu lived in New York for 2 years before her debut. She had to know at least "just some" words in English.
It doesn't mean she is fluent or anything but I'm sure it was enough period of time to understand the titles she is coming with. I'm sure she also learns new words when the time goes by.

Also YUI is another example of using just English/romaji titles, she has no title in Japanese.
Naming songs in English is just a trend in japan. For ayu's case at least she must know at least the meanings of the titles she chooses as she lived in New York 2 years before her debut and she visits the US/Hawaii almost every year.

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Old 27th October 2009, 07:19 AM
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it still really makes no sense,

Let's take an american artist. someone that doesn't speak a word of japanese, taylor switft! its like her album fearless, is it? having every single song title in japanese. It would make no sense, she doesn't speak a word of japanese and you turn to the back of the album and see every single song title is in kanji like sotsugyo shashin, and anata ga shite kureta koto (yes, koda kumi!)

I don't even think ayu knows what they mean. she didn't speak a word of english till just a few years ago and I bet if we went years and years back and had her read us the track list off one of her albums. she wouldn't be able to do it. it would be just as weird as if every single song off an album of hers had a title in french or swahili. Really pointless unless your incorporate that language into it.

namie has tooons of english song titled...songs. but they all have tons of english in the lyrics and yes, she has a french titled song with no french in it (moi et tu? is it?) but that is one. you don't see her naming every song she has in french.
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The difference between the Taylor Swift and Japanese and Ayu and english is that in high school, there is an english class, so pronounciation of english is already known, even if theres an accent. In america, you dont have to take japanese one, right? so you cant compare. Japanese already know how to pronounce english ones, even if the meaning is not clear.
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it still really makes no sense,

Let's take an american artist. someone that doesn't speak a word of japanese, taylor switft! its like her album fearless, is it? having every single song title in japanese. It would make no sense, she doesn't speak a word of japanese and you turn to the back of the album and see every single song title is in kanji like sotsugyo shashin, and anata ga shite kureta koto (yes, koda kumi!)

I don't even think ayu knows what they mean. she didn't speak a word of english till just a few years ago and I bet if we went years and years back and had her read us the track list off one of her albums. she wouldn't be able to do it. it would be just as weird as if every single song off an album of hers had a title in french or swahili. Really pointless unless your incorporate that language into it.

namie has tooons of english song titled...songs. but they all have tons of english in the lyrics and yes, she has a french titled song with no french in it (moi et tu? is it?) but that is one. you don't see her naming every song she has in french.
Okkkkkkayyy. But see, unlike japanese, English is pretty much the universal language. Singers from all over the world use english titles because they're most accessible. So it's NOT just as weird as a title being in french or swahili; It's english, and english is the most-spoken language on our planet.. Taylor Swift using Japanese titles would be weird, because Japanese is spoken mostly in one country - Japan. English is spoken everywhere - obviously to different extents in different countries - but still, more or less everywhere. Jeez... talk about trvial things to nitpick about

And I don't even know where to start with CoriKaru's post...

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Someone has caught Kumi Koda-itis.

I guess Ayumi isn't taking that break she so desperately needs.
What? She's released 3 singles this year, one in February, one in August, and one in December. Those are long gaps for releasing singles, especially compared to Koda Kumi :S

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You wonder if she even likes or wants to be doing what she's doing lately. Then again, she did write "THE SUN SONG" herself and that was lackluster so who knows.

And I wouldn't really jump all over her for the titles. I'm not sure if she's even writing these songs, but if not, odds are she's not titling them either.
First of all - "THE SUN SONG"? What? And you're suggesting that Ayumi Hamasaki isn't writing these songs? Again... What? Excluding the cover songs, she's written every single song in her discography. This is such an elementary Ayu fact that I can't believe I'm reiterating it here XD

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Ballads never excite me, and when I come across a ballad with the title of "BALLAD", which I never have before (How original and creative yes? NO), it sends an emasculating shiver so deep down within my being to the extent where I know I'll never be warm again.
While I agree that BALLAD is one of the worst titles ever, I think you take it to all new levels of hyperbole. Yes, the title of a song will keep you from ever being warm again. ever.
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