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[love in music]

Originally Posted by zelenk0

Seriously though...Ayu's own sentiments have been that she's not going to stop singing anytime soon. So what's the difference? I'd love for her to do well, but she's basically a permanent fixture (for lack of a better term) of avex, and as long as her fans are there for her, that's all that matters. Keep in mind too, she has a good following in other parts of Asia besides Japan.

And look how much we're anticipating this single! Ayu's doing fine.

this.

i swear i read this same ayu popularity conversation/debate at least every couple months. it's always with the same few people too lol

[maze]

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

A lot of people in Japan hate Koda Kumi and are very vocal about it.

LOL she is still one of the most popular singers in japan anyway

[ayumisrael]

Originally Posted by identity

this.

i swear i read this same ayu popularity conversation/debate at least every couple months. it's always with the same few people too lol

We Enjoy great discussions.

We bring each other our points and opinions in a civil way and there's nothing better in a forum than such a discussion (if you exclude talking about ayu new releases *_*).

[aloopy]

sure, her latest album didn't sell much, but her singles still sell steady (MW, D/G - 190k, R/S - 140k).
Ayu has been in the industry for a long time and still selling well for today's standards. and I think that the only solo female artists who can do that are Ayu, Namie & Utada.

ofcourse there's the young, new generation of great top selling girls like YUI & ayaka, and I love them alot, but we have yet to see if they are still on top after 10 years.
as for Koda Kumi, she started of weak, was a best selling artists for 2 years thanks to her 2 best-of albums.. her singles never sold much. and now her latest single sales are kind of laughable again. she's definitly not on the same level as Ayu, Namie & Utada (imo)

some of you guys should stop worrying so much, if she doesn't get a #1 single, so what?
I do kind of agree with the guy saying that she should take a break, just for a little while.
so she can get more involved in her music again, but if she likes her current sound who am I to tell her different lol

on topic: I hope we get covers soon

[TeddyGrahams]

Originally Posted by waterballoon

I do agree that Sunrise was quite a popular song, alongside Days and to a lesser extent Rule. What I was trying to say was the reason why avex isn't doing mass promotion for her is because the general public is "sick" of her (however true that may be)...

I think they are trying to maximize profits by not promoting her much. It's like she's well known in Japan that she doesn't need to be up and everywhere anymore, but it's clearly not the case. Look at Next Level, a chance to win box of tissues isn't really any incentive to buy the album... lol

[Bigtop]

We're already 19 pages deep, and it's not even a week after this thread was created!? You sure are really discussing very much about this, all because of the Fukuyama threat...

[JackieRos]

also talking about utada and namie
is the waiting for the covers is ok we all are

[CoriKaru]

Other artists still being torn down in order to lift Ayumi up I see.

Well if Japan as a whole truly is tired of Ayumi, then the time to start cooling down on Ayumi's omnipotence really isn't right before a Single's Release. The time for such action is inbetween Single and Album releases, which she/they doesn't/don't really seem too keen on.

[Zeke.]

I hate when people say Ayu is not popular anymore. You tell me, which other top singers sell so much more than her? God, Kumi is in the same range and Ai has fallen way below (sadly). Everyone is suffering.

[love in music]

i'm so stumped and curious about how the covers will look. especially since she said this:

The approach for the jacket photos is a little bit different than anything I've done so far... when you combine them with the song itself, the photos are really great, so look forward to them♪

i mean.. how could it be so different than anything she's done so far? i really don't get it. unless it actually didn't have her on the cover x_x but i don't think it could be that or else there wouldn't be so many changeable jacket card things, IDK.

[maze]

^ lol, or maybe like these..





XDDDD

[SunshineSlayer]

Originally Posted by Tsubasa2591

LOL she is still one of the most popular singers in japan anyway

I have nothing against Koda Kumi. I was just disputing the point that someone said no one says any other artists are looked down on in Japan.

[JackieRos]

funny how some bring ayu UP and bring other artist DOWN
but other people bring ayu DOWN to bring their favorite artist UP

hypocrisy i tell ya

oh i hate X hair but nope is not so ugly like ayus

[aura~]

I think Ayu is in a moment of her career when she is still singing because she loves it and because she wants, not because she needs it (money-wise I mean) And because of that I think she doesn't care a lot about singles, sales, streeks, records, etc... and that now she's free to make and sing the music she wants to and focus more on singing in fron of her fans rather than promoting herself... not that her previous music is something she didn't wanted, but I think that avex had more power over Ayu than nowadays... it's like ayu is in her own way...

So well... as others said, if she keeps singing, I'm happy, no need anything more ^^

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And about the covers, now I read again what Ayu said I wonder what she hasn't done already... XDD I think S/S covers came on friday... I hope we'll have them this friday!

[maze]

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

I have nothing against Koda Kumi. I was just disputing the point that someone said no one says any other artists are looked down on in Japan.

yes, I know.. I have the matter closed ^^
this is the ayu thread after all, so..

I WANT THE COVERS AND PREVIEWS!!!

[Bigtop]

I'm just wondering about how the cover will be - with her dark hair? I don't know how it will be...

[AyUta]

i'm getting impatient

[ハート〜ブレーカ♥]

nothing new..

[ayumisrael]

In a positive manner, it's kind of good that we don't get the covers, rips and stuff already (or even just covers), by the time the single would be released, it would be overplayed and the covers will start to appear normal (even if we would really love them). xD
Getting all the stuff in just 3 weeks is better than in 4 or 5. =P

[Crystal_Ageha]

Aa, I see you guys had the "Ayumi isn't liked in Japan anymore" debate again, lol. I won't participate this time. It's pointless to debate against something so ridiculously untrue, lol.

Originally Posted by walking.proud

I think Ayu is in a moment of her career when she is still singing because she loves it and because she wants, not because she needs it (money-wise I mean) And because of that I think she doesn't care a lot about singles, sales, streeks, records, etc... and that now she's free to make and sing the music she wants to and focus more on singing in fron of her fans rather than promoting herself... not that her previous music is something she didn't wanted, but I think that avex had more power over Ayu than nowadays... it's like ayu is in her own way...

So well... as others said, if she keeps singing, I'm happy, no need anything more ^^

This is a very good point. I don't think, either, that Ayumi cares a whole lot about being at the very top. Of course she cares for her success and wants to continue her records and streaks if at all possible, but the most important thing for her right now is just singing, for her fans and for anybody who'll listen. I'm sure she's content with her place right now (how could she not be--she's still definitely one of the biggest artists in Japan). We should probably stop worrying so much about her sales, or even where she is on the charts, at least for now. If she starts selling 50k singles and barely makes it into the top ten for a debut, THEN we can start worrying. D:


Anyways... I assume we'll get some sort of leak next week. I don't mind, as long as we get something. I may not even listen to previews this time, so I'm just excited to see the covers, mostly. ^_^ And I agree with what you said there, Israel. ^