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[njanjayrp]

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

^ There are plenty of non-JE people that get major tie ins too. And a lot of the people that do have major tie ins, don't necessarily need them to sell well either, but they do need them to sell like stratospherically high though. Like B'z didn't exactly need Buzzer Beat for Ichibu to Zenbu to sell well; it would have anyways. But having a successful drama tied with it made it sell even better. Same thing with Ayu probably. Everything else I agree with though. Still though, Ayu having a major tie in for once would be nice. Dandy Daddy though not a huge hit drama was at least a step in that direction. It didn't seem to have a positive effect on her physical sales though maybe it is what helped drive the digital sales.

No no no, you got it wrong, I meant that it seems that major tie-ins are usually (and mostly) the dramas featuring the JE people (and I mean no disrespect)

Considering that B'z's 2008 singles couldn't clear 200k either and that their last album barely sold 320k, I'd say yes the song needed a tie-in, else I really doubt it would sell close to the amounts it did. Sure I'd like seeing Ayu get a tie-in like that someday

[SunshineSlayer]

Originally Posted by njanjayrp

Considering that B'z's 2008 singles couldn't clear 200k either and that their last album barely sold 320k, I'd say yes the song needed a tie-in, else I really doubt it would sell close to the amounts it did. Sure I'd like seeing Ayu get a tie-in like that someday

I used B'z as an example because you said Ayu didn't need a tie in to sell well. B'z single sales last year are comprable to Ayu's - in fact they only had one single last year and it just barely outsold Ayu's last year. So if Ayu's non tied in drama singles are considered selling well enough, then B'z sales as well should also be considered selling well enough is what I mean. But just like many artists that don't need a tie in to sell well, the tie in - if good - can make it sell a lot more. Don't know if how I just explained it made any sense though.

[njanjayrp]

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

I used B'z as an example because you said Ayu didn't need a tie in to sell well. B'z single sales last year are comprable to Ayu's - in fact they only had one single last year and it just barely outsold Ayu's last year. So if Ayu's non tied in drama singles are considered selling well enough, then B'z sales as well should also be considered selling well enough is what I mean. But just like many artists that don't need a tie in to sell well, the tie in - if good - can make it sell a lot more. Don't know if how I just explained it made any sense though.

Yes I know and that was exactly what I was trying to say. They didn't sell just well with a tie-in, but extraordinary well :p - considering they were selling as much as Ayu in 2008 I wasn't trying to imply B'z wasn't selling well without tie-ins if thats what you meant

[KarenPang]

Both A-sides for B'z's Ichibu to Zenbu / DIVE single had really strong tie in's which contributed to the extraordinary sales which it obtained despite the fact that it was only sold in 1 edition

like Ichibu to Zenbu was used to promote Buzzer Beat while for DIVE , it was used to promote Suzuki's Swift compact car

MY LONELY TOWN was released in 2 editions but it's struggling to cross the 250K mark D:

maybe avex should ask Vermillion Records for advise to get better tie in's for ayumi

[SunshineSlayer]

Originally Posted by njanjayrp

Yes I know and that was exactly what I was trying to say. They didn't sell just well with a tie-in, but extraordinary well :p - considering they were selling as much as Ayu in 2008 I wasn't trying to imply B'z wasn't selling well without tie-ins if thats what you meant

^ Yeah, yeah that's what I meant. I interpreted your post as meaning that B'z sales were only good with tie ins.