Ayumi in SLT = oh, another GaGa copy?

[Cherry Dynamite]

Originally Posted by StrawbariSnowAyumi

while this thread still exists should we go back to seeing how ayu copied madonna in 2002. oh no! because it just matters so much.)

No one wants to talk about that because I'm quite sure it's been discussed here a lot of times. We should just probably say that originality no longer exists.

[primavera♥]

Originally Posted by BanaCherry

No one wants to talk about that because I'm quite sure it's been discussed here a lot of times. We should just probably say that originality no longer exists.

yeah and it never killed us all now did it?

originality nowadays is a joke. being urself however is different.

i just dont get it i guess. but then in sense i do.

[kendelle]

People accusing Ayu of ripping on Gaga should look at videos like alterna, Ladies Night, Beautiful Fighters, Kanariya, JEWEL etc. Ayu did this before Gaga debuted =|

[ayu_ready?]

no I don't think she copied anything

even the heels were different, ahha

if she dressed & looked futuristic it doesn't mean she copied. it's just in fashion now & everyone just does it. thanks to Gaga for triggering off the fashion though

[JackieRos]

when ayu does it is inspiration but when other artist copy ayu is COPYING

like I always say it doesn't bother me cos I ain't no overzealous fan

[hanabi2]

it's just a fashion trend~i think the costume designers are related or something, i enjoy this PV so much~~

[Cherry Dynamite]

Originally Posted by JackieRos

when ayu does it is inspiration but when other artist copy ayu is COPYING

like I always say it doesn't bother me cos I ain't no overzealous fan

LOL Yeah, I hate to admit it but I sometimes do that too, not with copying though I don't care about that.

[panda87]

this whole thing is quite lugubrious. as if Gaga is original? she ripped off Ace the Base with her one song. but like i always say, people have the right to have influence. i'm not completely happy with any of Ayu's new songs, but who the h--- cares about what is alike? it's inevitable with the existence of "trends" these days. people make such a scene about, omg, this is like that, that is like this, what the h--- is she/he doing? it's great to have an opinion to show you have some character at the least, but to have to say what was before and after what and create such [discussions/debates] about, pretty much, the "sin" of similarities, just seems to me quite ridiculous.

some may think, if you don't like discussions like this, don't come here. but i just want to address how, in the end, what truly matters is that it's entertaining. things like this just makes me go, "whaaaaat? are these guys serious?" think about it. honestly, it only needs an isolated "hey, it's gaga-ish, but it's fun". not "omg, rip-off of gaga! ayu is so cheap now" as long as an artist just doesn't sit down and let people write an artist's eventually released music/lyrics, dictate his/her entire performance and career for him/her to play out like a doll, i don't consider it cheap, which are very few (and i could list names, but that's not my thing b/c it's unnecessary).

[waterballoon]

^ well-said.

IMO the video had the Gaga-vibes but it's not like it's the end of the world. The PV was still very entertaining, Ayu had fun, the song rocks... and yeah that's what I care about at the end of the day.

[Yumsushi]

Looking back the PV if anything, its seems like Ayumi is mocking the idea of Bad Romance; with Sexy little things, the song says 'dont be fooled by my looks youre the one thats trapped' not 'im forever trapped by your horrible love.'
I think she did it sutbley enough that its her own touch.

[nikku76]

The only thing 'high fashion' about that ***** is that the designers were probably high when they came up with it.

I don't get most fashion though so eh.

[Andali]

In Japan, imitation is the highest form of flattery. So Westerners cry "copycat" but don't understand that it isn't copying. Ayu's always done weird things. Just cos she picked the same designer as Gaga. Ever wondered if Gaga is an Ayu fan? You know, Poker Face, even her name, think Bold and Delicious "ya ya, ga ga, wo wo etc" think about it... :p

[CaseNumber:825]

I'm just gonna take this moment to say:

I loved the video so much, and I think that's partly because I did get 'Gaga-vibes' from it.
I don't think Ayumi copied Gaga. She might have gained a bit of inspiration from Gaga and then she took that inspiration and molded it into something that is just so... well .... so Ayu ^_^
(Although, to be fair, one of the best things about the video was the way it linked so cleverly to Microphone, I just thought that was brilliant)

I love Gaga, I love Ayu
I loved Bad Romance and I loved Sexy Little Things.

I love this whole new wave of fun, weird, quirky, bizarre styles. And if more people want to draw inspiration then that's just fantastic, I'll sit back and enjoy the show ^_^

[Nessa]

Sorry this has nothing to do with Ayu or Gaga, but when something urks you even after reading on for 7 more pages, it must really urk you.

Originally Posted by perfectodub

"shoves everything they produce in everybody's face" sounds to much noble to be true

the world is plagued by USA companies in every corner of the planet.
USA can promote and publishing anything they want, anytime, anywhere.
is all about money and power.

that not make an artist bigger

This is borderline offensive to me, as an American citizen. After all the crap that gets slung at my country elsewhere, you go and bring BS like this to an Ayumi Hamasaki forum? I don't know if you realize just how offensive this can be. Please leave your bashing of my country off a fan-forum for a Japanese pop-star.

[Misa-chan]

Originally Posted by Andali

In Japan, imitation is the highest form of flattery. So Westerners cry "copycat" but don't understand that it isn't copying. Ayu's always done weird things. Just cos she picked the same designer as Gaga. Ever wondered if Gaga is an Ayu fan? You know, Poker Face, even her name, think Bold and Delicious "ya ya, ga ga, wo wo etc" think about it... :p

No, Lady Gaga's name did not come from Bold&Delicious. Do read up on her history at least.

[njanjayrp]

Originally Posted by Misa-chan

No, Lady Gaga's name did not come from Bold&Delicious. Do read up on her history at least.

Plus it's not like Ayu actually wrote that part herself

[panda87]

Originally Posted by waterballoon

^ well-said.

IMO the video had the Gaga-vibes but it's not like it's the end of the world. The PV was still very entertaining, Ayu had fun, the song rocks... and yeah that's what I care about at the end of the day.

honestly, right? and i've kept up with Gaga's music career and i didn't even feel like Ayu cheated me in her SLT video b/c of some kind of similarity, whatever it is. as a smart viewer, i view things as an isolated product without regard to anything BUT the artist and her work. and if i'm enjoying it so far, i'd careless about similarities. it may exist, but i'm not going to throw a tantrum over it like most people here.

[waterballoon]

Originally Posted by panda87

honestly, right? and i've kept up with Gaga's music career and i didn't even feel like Ayu cheated me in her SLT video b/c of some kind of similarity, whatever it is. as a smart viewer, i view things as an isolated product without regard to anything BUT the artist and her work. and if i'm enjoying it so far, i'd careless about similarities. it may exist, but i'm not going to throw a tantrum over it like most people here.

the worst thing was people get crazy defending either Ayu or Gaga because of the fashion similarities... I might try to understand if it's a video concept or something, but clothing? That's kinda pushing it... better send a warning letter to Ayu not to wear anything that Gaga has worn before in her PVs otherwise people are gonna accuse her of being a copycat and bashing Gaga for 'bringing down' Ayu

[Kanzaki]

Originally Posted by joshohhhhh

i don't care who wore the clothes first. the fact of the matter is people act like lady gaga invented avant-garde clothing, which she did not. she is merely riding on the coattails of fashion designers, waiting for the next out-of-the-ordinary outfit to appear. she's a shock jock with minimal writing talent. nothing about her is edgy or unique, she's just another blonde pop star in my eyes. instead of people thinking of lady gaga when you see such an outfit, you should be crediting the designer. lady gaga did nothing but wear the clothes, which i'm sure her record label is responsible for (testing a new type of marketing).

+1

[Zeke.]

In response to the +1 and quote above, I'll repost this:



No writing talent? Not edgy or unique? The designer should get credited? We could say the same for every single popstar under the planet, including Ayu. That she would be nothing without the composers/producers/arrangers for her music. Some people are so ignorant!