Do you truely still like ayumi?

[Aldonia]

Of course I still like Ayumi! I like her even more than I did when I first joined AHS. I'm kind of sad to see so many so-called fans deciding they dislike her now.

[AznkidoOo2]

Hm..Ok @_@..But her songs are starting to get me again ..

[Unimatrix Prime™]

Originally posted by LX DAI
I didn't understand anything in that post... Please rephrase and I can comment better on that...(the middle part). The end part I understood fine. I prefer to see a rounded person in all perspectives rather than a flat person with only ups. Or even a 2D person you can say. I see pros, I see cons. More pros over cons type of perspective. Versus, 3D I see pros, I see cons, I see pros here, and I see cons here. Turn her around and I see pros, and I see cons. More cons than pros here. When I said turn her around, don't take that into a literal sense of her back. I'm mor less demonstrating let's say... an art work that was made into a sphere. A pretty painting or something... some sides are prettier than others(granted it's not mono colored or anything repetative) If I lost anyone here just ognore it. Nothing big. A brief summary of what I'm saying is that I like to see everything possible both pros and cons about interests of mine. Makes thing more interesting to learn rather than all pros. Too optimistic for me. I'm a pesstimist.

What?? This made absolutely no sense to me.

Good point AFanforXX, it's almost like starting a fight/argument and not finishing it. At least with me I try to end it on a lighter note though not everyone will feel the same. Do peopl care about my opinions? I hope not, they are personal opinions and shouldn't matter to you. As I have respected the rights of other people's opinions now and stopped targeting them by what I feel should be right.

Respected rights of other people's opinions?? hmm.. last I remember, you were trying to instill your opinions on others in that "Bias" thread without accepting the fact that people can like Ayu however they want. If they wanna buy loads of CDs and have their room filled with posters, than that's up to them. Do you live with these people? Are they doing any actual bodily harm by being fans, or saying that they like something about Ayu that you don't?

But really, you need to lay off me and stop targeting me without flaming. I'm sure Testuo some what understands what I'm trying to get at but just chooses to block out certain fields.

What flaming is she doing? Here's a definition of what flaming is:


(n.) A searing e-mail or newsgroup message in which the writer attacks another participant in overly harsh, and often personal, terms.

I don't think she said anything that could be taken as a personal attack. Unless she called you some vulgar name or made fun of you in some way, I dunno how you think that she (or anyone else, for that matter) is flaming you.

I've met people (online) who showed pictures of their rooms, COVERED in Ayumi crap.(crap doesn't have to me sucky stuff but a combination of good and bad... sort of like feces... filled with 30% good stuff for your body, 70% waste... disgusting I know but just some more useless facts for people to learn for the day.)

Wow... thanks for sharing that fact with us...

So please don't even say I'm not an Ayumi fan because I am, I just prefer to be different from everyone else and take a side which few stand on. Better to see views that way(IMO).

How come saying something bad about Ayu is some "unheard-of" idea? Check a general Jpop forum and see what people say about Ayu and you'll be almost guaranteed that some people there don't like Ayu (perhaps to the point of hating her). People here express their thoughts is many ways, but it doesn't mean that they have to say rude things about Ayu to be "fans" (or whatever it is you're looking for in people here).

So once more, you may think I'm "flaming you", but I'm not. I'm just saying that once more, you're instilling your views on people because you're "LX Mastery" (or whatever it is you call yourself, and I don't really care if you're joking or not). I don't necessarily hate you, but I don't really see a need to try and explain this to you any further. If you'd like to reply to me (as you probably will), do post here in this thread, as I've said what others may have said to you if they were to post here.

[Luna Saisho]

I still refuse to understand why people would even consider arguing as to why you like the subject of a forum. Isn't that why you're here? I mean, really. It's an Ayu fan forum.

Like I said, some people love her to death or so they say, even IDpeaceboi pointed out they can love without meeting. But that requires contact information. Something no on here has with Ayumi. Understand some of that? I should have included contact information in my previous reply. Oh well... that's enoguh from me for now...

Wow.... You think that's a valid point? Sorry it's not. The topic states "Do you truely still like ayumi?" You don't have to have contact with a person to like them nor admire them. Admire and liking are basically the same thing here. (Mods .. is it bad if I tell LX DAI to go cry a river about not using the "proper" words for a DB Topic somewhere else? Or saying how low it is to use that against the topic?) Ayumi is in the public eye. We are the public. Thus we do have some form of contact with her. Have we ever talked to her? ... That's just plain stupid, and anyone would tell you that. We aren't speaking Hamasaki Ayumi, the woman behind the superstardom. We're talking about Ayumi. Ayu. You're posts are becoming tiresome and annoying. Though you are entitled to them and I'm able to not read them - it gets hard when you always post the same thing over and over again.

I still am a fan of Ayumi's. I believe that she comes out with new fresh things often. Though, like any artist, she will have her dry spots. No one is perfect. We've known that since she released her first single.

She's an entertainer not a saint. She doesn't have to do things for charity. Though it would be helpful to those charities, it's really none of our business how she uses her fame and her money. Has DAI done for the needy? :S

[Piccolo]

This thread is going nowhere. Closed.