What Remixes are considered to be in the "dubstep" genre?

[MapTheSoul]

Originally Posted by Delirium-Zer0

Those are dub, not dubstep... dubstep is MUCH faster and is more in the realm of like.. like drum & bass or hardcore (not as happy sounding as h-h stuff like the Seasons remix). I'd have to go through her remixes and see, but offhand I can't think of any... I'll let you know

That is... not right as far as I know. It is a bit complicated to describe both genres, but I wouldn't say dubstep is faster. Both are about 70 beats per minute. Drum'n'Bass is already around 160 beats per minute or more.

Dubstep is a slow, bass-filled, grinding-like music. It has influences from dub, reggae, drum'n'bass and so on. People often dexcribe it as a "dirty love-making" sound" (lol).
I haven't come across a real dubstep remix of Ayu's songs yet. Or at least I can't remember one.

Dub originated in reggae, you can hear that quite well, but dub songs usually (not always) are remixes of a song. It then adds tons of echoes to get a kind of... more dimensional structure, remodels the whole song to the max, removes vocals or "uses" them as instruments and also emphasizes the bass.
Examples for this genre are:
Happy Ending (Mad Professor Remix) from ayu-mi-x 6 <--especially this one!
Dearest "The Implication Dub Mix" from ayu-mi-x 4
Who... "Who dub it?" from ayu-mi-x 2

There are a lot of mixes that use the term "dub" though. But not to refer to the dub genre, but "to describe the re-formatting of music of various genres into typically instrumental, rhythm-centric adaptations", meaning it is a remix that focuses more on the instrumental work of a song than the singing.

[Delirium-Zer0]

Originally Posted by MapTheSoul

That is... not right as far as I know. It is a bit complicated to describe both genres, but I wouldn't say dubstep is faster. Both are about 70 beats per minute. Drum'n'Bass is already around 160 beats per minute or more.

Dubstep is a slow, bass-filled, grinding-like music. It has influences from dub, reggae, drum'n'bass and so on. People often dexcribe it as a "dirty love-making" sound" (lol).
I haven't come across a real dubstep remix of Ayu's songs yet. Or at least I can't remember one.

Dub originated in reggae, you can hear that quite well, but dub songs usually (not always) are remixes of a song. It then adds tons of echoes to get a kind of... more dimensional structure, remodels the whole song to the max, removes vocals or "uses" them as instruments and also emphasizes the bass.
Examples for this genre are:
Happy Ending (Mad Professor Remix) from ayu-mi-x 6 <--especially this one!
Dearest "The Implication Dub Mix" from ayu-mi-x 4
Who... "Who dub it?" from ayu-mi-x 2

I guess whether you interpret a dubstep's track as 70 or 140 bpm can depend on the specific drum track used... either way though, it's not tropical sounding the way those dub mixes you listed are, it doesn't have much of the reggae influence left in it, and it's maybe slower in a more atmospheric sense but it's certainly not calm (at least the examples I've heard). I think it's probably the "shuffling" drum track that really makes something sound like dubstep and not just dnb or trip-hop.

[Mintkisses]

Originally Posted by Delirium-Zer0

I guess whether you interpret a dubstep's track as 70 or 140 bpm can depend on the specific drum track used... either way though, it's not tropical sounding the way those dub mixes you listed are, it doesn't have much of the reggae influence left in it, and it's maybe slower in a more atmospheric sense but it's certainly not calm (at least the examples I've heard). I think it's probably the "shuffling" drum track that really makes something sound like dubstep and not just dnb or trip-hop.

It's a very hard genre to explain. Reading everyone's posts that are trying to explain make me giggle because I know exactly what everyone is trying to say.

GAME x Yoji is definitely dubstep. I'm listening to it right now~~
I was also thinking of the Beautiful Fighters remix off ayu-mi-6 -GOLD- (don't know the exact remix name).