What Remixes are considered to be in the "dubstep" genre?

[Mintkisses]

Title kinda explains all, lol. It's kind of a different question because only someone really into remixes/techno will know the answer.. so hopefully someone knows!

[U-GO-BOY]

I think Who... (Who Dub It?) and SCAR (Don't Cry mix) are Dubstep^^

[Delirium-Zer0]

Those are dub, not dubstep... dubstep is MUCH faster and is more in the realm of like.. like drum & bass or hardcore (not as happy sounding as h-h stuff like the Seasons remix). I'd have to go through her remixes and see, but offhand I can't think of any... I'll let you know

[Kanzaki]

^
I didn't know that dubstep had to be fast...
However now that I think about it, most DJ mixes that I listen to mixes with dubstep that has a sick speed.

[MapTheSoul]

Originally Posted by Delirium-Zer0

Those are dub, not dubstep... dubstep is MUCH faster and is more in the realm of like.. like drum & bass or hardcore (not as happy sounding as h-h stuff like the Seasons remix). I'd have to go through her remixes and see, but offhand I can't think of any... I'll let you know

That is... not right as far as I know. It is a bit complicated to describe both genres, but I wouldn't say dubstep is faster. Both are about 70 beats per minute. Drum'n'Bass is already around 160 beats per minute or more.

Dubstep is a slow, bass-filled, grinding-like music. It has influences from dub, reggae, drum'n'bass and so on. People often dexcribe it as a "dirty love-making" sound" (lol).
I haven't come across a real dubstep remix of Ayu's songs yet. Or at least I can't remember one.

Dub originated in reggae, you can hear that quite well, but dub songs usually (not always) are remixes of a song. It then adds tons of echoes to get a kind of... more dimensional structure, remodels the whole song to the max, removes vocals or "uses" them as instruments and also emphasizes the bass.
Examples for this genre are:
Happy Ending (Mad Professor Remix) from ayu-mi-x 6 <--especially this one!
Dearest "The Implication Dub Mix" from ayu-mi-x 4
Who... "Who dub it?" from ayu-mi-x 2

There are a lot of mixes that use the term "dub" though. But not to refer to the dub genre, but "to describe the re-formatting of music of various genres into typically instrumental, rhythm-centric adaptations", meaning it is a remix that focuses more on the instrumental work of a song than the singing.

[Mintkisses]

Thanks for the responses! I just recently heard dubstep from a friend and I instantly started thinking about Ayu remixes. I mainly felt like, "yeah, I've heard this type of music before." All I really know specifically about the genre is that it's a tone of bass. I was in my car today listening to some ayu-mi-x albums trying to figure out which is which, lol. Gotta love that techno though <3

[Delirium-Zer0]

Originally Posted by MapTheSoul

That is... not right as far as I know. It is a bit complicated to describe both genres, but I wouldn't say dubstep is faster. Both are about 70 beats per minute. Drum'n'Bass is already around 160 beats per minute or more.

Dubstep is a slow, bass-filled, grinding-like music. It has influences from dub, reggae, drum'n'bass and so on. People often dexcribe it as a "dirty love-making" sound" (lol).
I haven't come across a real dubstep remix of Ayu's songs yet. Or at least I can't remember one.

Dub originated in reggae, you can hear that quite well, but dub songs usually (not always) are remixes of a song. It then adds tons of echoes to get a kind of... more dimensional structure, remodels the whole song to the max, removes vocals or "uses" them as instruments and also emphasizes the bass.
Examples for this genre are:
Happy Ending (Mad Professor Remix) from ayu-mi-x 6 <--especially this one!
Dearest "The Implication Dub Mix" from ayu-mi-x 4
Who... "Who dub it?" from ayu-mi-x 2

I guess whether you interpret a dubstep's track as 70 or 140 bpm can depend on the specific drum track used... either way though, it's not tropical sounding the way those dub mixes you listed are, it doesn't have much of the reggae influence left in it, and it's maybe slower in a more atmospheric sense but it's certainly not calm (at least the examples I've heard). I think it's probably the "shuffling" drum track that really makes something sound like dubstep and not just dnb or trip-hop.

[Picaflor 7/4]

what is dubstep. the first thing that popped into my mind was yoji biomehanika. is he considered that? his music is always live, very fast, and instrumental.
GAME x YOJI I guess?

[Mintkisses]

Originally Posted by Delirium-Zer0

I guess whether you interpret a dubstep's track as 70 or 140 bpm can depend on the specific drum track used... either way though, it's not tropical sounding the way those dub mixes you listed are, it doesn't have much of the reggae influence left in it, and it's maybe slower in a more atmospheric sense but it's certainly not calm (at least the examples I've heard). I think it's probably the "shuffling" drum track that really makes something sound like dubstep and not just dnb or trip-hop.

It's a very hard genre to explain. Reading everyone's posts that are trying to explain make me giggle because I know exactly what everyone is trying to say.

GAME x Yoji is definitely dubstep. I'm listening to it right now~~
I was also thinking of the Beautiful Fighters remix off ayu-mi-6 -GOLD- (don't know the exact remix name).

[Picaflor 7/4]

^ Beautiful Fighters x MSTRKRFT (It's like Master Kraft, but without any of the vowels.)

[perfectodub]

really?
"Beautiful Fighters x MSTRKRFT" sounds really like the typical new "house/dance" to me

[Mintkisses]

Gah, I don't know. I do know I love the remix though.

[MapTheSoul]

I'd say Beautiful Fighters x MSTRKRFT is more Electronica. Stuff that Boys Noize or Daft Punk do.

Aww, man. I really don't know how to explain that genre xD
What Delirium-Zer0 wrote sounds right to me, but I never really heard a dubstep song that sounded fast... I'm missing something here. That's also why I'd say the Yoji mix is more like a hard/tech house-trance mix.

And now I'm just as confused as everyone else. The borders to all these genres just keep blurring! :

[Mintkisses]

Originally Posted by MapTheSoul

I'd say Beautiful Fighters x MSTRKRFT is more Electronica. Stuff that Boys Noize or Daft Punk do.

Aww, man. I really don't know how to explain that genre xD
What Delirium-Zer0 wrote sounds right to me, but I never really heard a dubstep song that sounded fast... I'm missing something here. That's also why I'd say the Yoji mix is more like a hard/tech house-trance mix.

And now I'm just as confused as everyone else. The borders to all these genres just keep blurring! :

Everyone is getting too confused to answer anything! xD

I was listening to Beautiful Fighters x MSTRKRFT again today and I must say how off I was calling it dubstep. It's so heavy in electronica, specially the break down in the middle of the song. Crazzy!

I know that dubstep is a fastish beat (in between) and has HEAVY BASS. It's one of the things I love about the genre because it sounds sweet on my surround system

[Picaflor 7/4]

Fast, and heavy beat.

GAME (YOJI's 140Bpm Tech-dance Re-rub)?