COUNTDOWN LIVE 2010-2011 A ~do it again~ information thread [II]

[njanjayrp]

Originally Posted by Luna62

^Did you reupload this pic or is it the original link?
Because if the links are really hidden in the pic, we need the original one to extract the links with ay825...
If it's not the original link it won't work.

EDIT :
The first part of HD CDL is up for download at AyuChina.

It's not re-uploaded, it's the copy/paste of the img link found in the post. Ohh I finally get it xD Had no idea >_> So yeah, this is the original pic.

[Linoa62]

Originally Posted by njanjayrp

It's not re-uploaded, it's the copy/paste of the img link found in the post. Ohh I finally get it xD Had no idea >_> So yeah, this is the original pic.

It doesn't work -_-
There's nothing else in the thread?
Sometimes you have to highlight the full post because links are hidden there...
Aaaaaaaah KMC is annoying -_- XD
Thank you for your help BTW ^^

[Andali]

I want to buy the merchandise

[Linoa62]

Part 1 & 2 are now up on AyuChina

[11/01/31][HDRip]COUNTDOWN LIVE 2010~2011 A ~do it again~ (part1~2 ok) - [阅读权限 2]

[hidekirby]

Originally Posted by Chritopher

30.12!!!

She sounds the same here and on the TV version. Even if these are two different dates.

If I have to trust a live recording I will definitely trust the TV one... and these 2 vids comfort my opinion.

[Heldin]

Originally Posted by Earth_maiden

Do people want to hear the flaws? I much prefer the DVD versions where the vocals sound excellent and the camera angles are much more flattering to the performances. After watching the TV version of CDL09-10 I wasn't even sure I wanted to purchase the DVD, but after my friend assured me it was worth it I bought it, and was very happy I did.

So I think I'll wait for the DVD release before I watch any more of CDL10-11.

I agree with you!!! Because of the TV version I can't watch CDL 09-10 anymore I remember how happy I was, when I saw that she was going to perform Momentum and Pride and then I heard her off-notes scream in Pride in TV version. It was the last straw. I decided never to watch this CDL.
After your comment I decided to give one more chance to this "distressful" CDL

[Chritopher]

Originally Posted by hidekirby

She sounds the same here and on the TV version. Even if these are two different dates.

If I have to trust a live recording I will definitely trust the TV one... and these 2 vids comfort my opinion.

Then you might consider listening one more time.
One can hear difference even in the first note in Last Angel!!
It's OK here but on 31.12 it was off-key.
Well, I think I'm lucky that I sing myself and can easily notice such differences.
I'm not trying to say that many users are tone-deaf but some of you really can't hear differences, don't hear pitch correction in edited versions of the songs, etc and try to convince the guys who do hear that we're wrong. Funny situation, no offences.

[njanjayrp]

Originally Posted by Luna62

It doesn't work -_-
There's nothing else in the thread?
Sometimes you have to highlight the full post because links are hidden there...
Aaaaaaaah KMC is annoying -_- XD
Thank you for your help BTW ^^

Nope, nothing besides the setlist and encoding data I highlighted the post as well I hate KMC and their cryptic posts.

[Azmaria]

when will the goods be uploaded in YesAsia, I really want to get sth ^^

[Linoa62]

Originally Posted by njanjayrp

Nope, nothing besides the setlist and encoding data I highlighted the post as well I hate KMC and their cryptic posts.

Me too, and I hate their permission levels XD

[hidekirby]

Originally Posted by Chritopher

Then you might consider listening one more time.
One can hear difference even in the first note in Last Angel!!
It's OK here but on 31.12 it was off-key.
Well, I think I'm lucky that I sing myself and can easily notice such differences.
I'm not trying to say that many users are tone-deaf but some of you really can't hear differences, don't hear pitch correction in edited versions of the songs, etc and try to convince the guys who do hear that we're wrong. Funny situation, no offences.

I think you got me wrong. I didn't say they were exactly the same! I just said that she didn't sound great on both recordings. I also think that dvd are overly edited. (which is not really a bad thing though). I'm sure her performance on dvd will sound flawless...

[Bad Wolf]

If people are still on about Ayu not being the best singer/having the best vocals, there really is no helping them. She's never been about trained, superb vocals -- go to alan if you want that, IMO. Even in the edited DVD versions, we aren't getting 100% omg perfect flawless because hey -- it's edited.

So who cares if you're musically trained and can notice this or that flaw? You're wasting your critiques because in the end, Ayu's career was never built on the assumption she could sing well, but that she could make a living singing her heart out no matter what.

[jbrat2219]

Originally Posted by InoriNoUta

If people are still on about Ayu not being the best singer/having the best vocals, there really is no helping them. She's never been about trained, superb vocals -- go to alan if you want that, IMO. Even in the edited DVD versions, we aren't getting 100% omg perfect flawless because hey -- it's edited.

So who cares if you're musically trained and can notice this or that flaw? You're wasting your critiques because in the end, Ayu's career was never built on the assumption she could sing well, but that she could make a living singing her heart out no matter what.

LOL I'm watching CDL and while I was reading this Ayu made a sour note in Endless Sorrow and I couldn't help but laugh. I agree though.

[Misa-chan]

Originally Posted by Chritopher

It's a fact you know :-)) But when you attend concerts the sound is too loud to hear all the flaws. And of course there's a show which may distract from vocals quality :-)

Even so, it's obvious when she doesn't hit a note during live. For example, when she did momentum last CDL, she couldn't manage the last chorus very well. The high notes were mostly out of tune. I loved that song, and I remember being slightly disappointed at how she handled that.

I am... was wonderful though, so I'm not sure why the TV version sounds so butchered.

So its not true that concert-goers think vocals are good because we are too distracted by the show. Yes, the show is great, but what we're ultimately there for is to hear her live. So no matter how excited and hyper you are, it is natural to listen out for the vocals.

[Chritopher]

Originally Posted by Misa-chan

Even so, it's obvious when she doesn't hit a note during live. For example, when she did momentum last CDL, she couldn't manage the last chorus very well. The high notes were mostly out of tune. I loved that song, and I remember being slightly disappointed at how she handled that.

I am... was wonderful though, so I'm not sure why the TV version sounds so butchered.

So its not true that concert-goers think vocals are good because we are too distracted by the show. Yes, the show is great, but what we're ultimately there for is to hear her live. So no matter how excited and hyper you are, it is natural to listen out for the vocals.

You missed my point. I repeat, good show distracts you from SOME flaws. I didn't even start this conversation, it was just my opinion...
Of course in general most people will hear if the vocals are bad or not.
I remeber going to Mylene Farmer show in Saint-Petersburg. The sound was REALLY lound so even her pitch seemed to sound higher that it really was. And of course I missed several off-key notes. But when I listened very clean fan recording of that show every single flaw was much more obvious even though that this show was very good vocal-wise.
That's my point!

[Chritopher]

Originally Posted by InoriNoUta

So who cares if you're musically trained and can notice this or that flaw? You're wasting your critiques because in the end, Ayu's career was never built on the assumption she could sing well, but that she could make a living singing her heart out no matter what.

Where was the critiques part I wonder?
Who cares? Very polite! The point of my post was to show that that recordings were from 30.12, that's it. So please behave yourself and don't make up something I didn't even have in my mind. I know what makes her a good artist too.

Originally Posted by hidekirby

I think you got me wrong. I didn't say they were exactly the same! I just said that she didn't sound great on both recordings. I also think that dvd are overly edited. (which is not really a bad thing though). I'm sure her performance on dvd will sound flawless...

Ok, I see. But your message did sound like you saw no difference at all

[Misa-chan]

Originally Posted by Chritopher

You missed my point. I repeat, good show distracts you from SOME flaws. I didn't even start this conversation, it was just my opinion...
Of course in general most people will hear if the vocals are bad or not.
I remeber going to Mylene Farmer show in Saint-Petersburg. The sound was REALLY lound so even her pitch seemed to sound higher that it really was. And of course I missed several off-key notes. But when I listened very clean fan recording of that show every single flaw was much more obvious even though that this show was very good vocal-wise.
That's my point!

If I missed your point, I'm sorry.

But I still disagree. I've been trained half my life as a musician to listen out for these things, so no matter how distracting the show is/how loud the speakers get, I normally recognize it when ayu goes off-pitch.

With that, I still stick with my point that ayu's live vocals were definitely not that atrocity that was the TV version.

[Neko★munication]

Really holding out for the TV/HD version The Youko rip's quality is meh - for a performance or two I never mind, but I could never watch a whole concert in that quality ^^;

Here's hoping someone manages to snag it from AC or somewhere else soon!

[SunshineSlayer]

Just throwing this out there, but Yoyogi as a venue just has horrible sound to begin with anyways. It was never meant to hold concerts. I've been to nearly all concert venues in Tokyo and so far I would rate Yoyogi as the worst acoustics wise.

[Bad Wolf]

Where was the critiques part I wonder?
Who cares? Very polite! The point of my post was to show that that recordings were from 30.12, that's it. So please behave yourself and don't make up something I didn't even have in my mind. I know what makes her a good artist too.

The critiques part is every post you've made in this thread since its inception.

I am behaving myself. It's not my fault you chose to take offense at what I said, especially since I wasn't bashing you for anything. All I said was it's a waste of time to get so worked up over how she sounds because we all KNOW she isn't a perfect singer. So why bother bothering?

LOL I'm watching CDL and while I was reading this Ayu made a sour note in Endless Sorrow and I couldn't help but laugh. I agree though

lmao I have to say, I love your reactions to this CDL on Twitter. They crack me up.