Music getting flat...

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Originally Posted by Aditmi Krisnasaki ~II~

yes... the best songs are in 90s (mariah carey took the lead)

Mariah has great vocals but her music is the definition of generic and flat. She has released a hundred ballads with the same lyrical AND musical themes, all her ballads(and ballads ARE what she is known for) have the same structure and generic instrumental.

Originally Posted by isthisLOL?

Mariah has great vocals but her music is the definition of generic and flat. She has released a hundred ballads with the same lyrical AND musical themes, all her ballads(and ballads ARE what she is known for) have the same structure and generic instrumental.

In your opinion. Her ballads don't all sound the same, even if they do have the same themes. She is known for ballads, because she has amazing vocal which allowed her to sing "a hundred" ballads.

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Originally Posted by xLitax

In your opinion. Her ballads don't all sound the same, even if they do have the same themes. She is known for ballads, because she has amazing vocal which allowed her to sing "a hundred" ballads.

It's not an opinion. You're mistaking the music being good or not with it being generic and similar or not. One is partly subjective and I did not talk about it, one is purely objective.
I don't care if you like her music, you can like it if you want to. But her music is highly generic so bringing her up in a discussion about music becoming flat and generic is like bringing up Twilight as a positive example in a discussion about well-developed characters.
Her ballads follow highly similar compositional formulas very engraved in mainstream, moreso than those of the vast majority of singers, as do her more upbeat songs but not as extremely, and the same can be said about her lyrical themes. All very limited.

She is a great vocalist though. Even if her headvoice, falsetto and whistle register are rather weak and impressive only for their range. Her chestvoice was really great in the 90s especially.

Originally Posted by isthisLOL?

It's not an opinion. You're mistaking the music being good or not with it being generic and similar or not. One is partly subjective and I did not talk about it, one is purely objective.
I don't care if you like her music, you can like it if you want to. But her music is highly generic so bringing her up in a discussion about music becoming flat and generic is like bringing up Twilight as a positive example in a discussion about well-developed characters.
Her ballads follow highly similar compositional formulas very engraved in mainstream, moreso than those of the vast majority of singers, as do her more upbeat songs but not as extremely, and the same can be said about her lyrical themes. All very limited.

She is a great vocalist though. Even if her headvoice, falsetto and whistle register are rather weak and impressive only for their range. Her chestvoice was really great in the 90s especially.

Great. I'm glad I have your permission.

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Originally Posted by xLitax

Great. I'm glad I have your permission.

I love how you ignore every other sentence
Have you realized now I never judged her music as being good or bad or are you just trying to be witty?

Originally Posted by isthisLOL?

I love how you ignore every other sentence
Have you realized now I never judged her music as being good or bad or are you just trying to be witty?

I wasn't aware I had to reply to each sentence. Well all righty! Here goes!

Originally Posted by isthisLOL?

It's not an opinion. You're mistaking the music being good or not with it being generic and similar or not. Generic doesn't mean similar One is partly subjective and I did not talk about it, one is purely objective. Yes, a lot of her songs sound similar.
I don't care if you like her music, you can like it if you want to. And I really don't care if you don't care. But her music is highly generic so bringing her up in a discussion about music becoming flat and generic is like bringing up Twilight as a positive example in a discussion about well-developed characters. Once again, generic does not equal similar. In fact, Vision of Love was completely different than the "norm" in 1990.
Her ballads follow highly similar compositional formulas very engraved in mainstream, moreso than those of the vast majority of singers, as do her more upbeat songs but not as extremely, and the same can be said about her lyrical themes. Yes. Though it was not mainstream in the early and mid 90s.All very limited.

She is a great vocalist though. Really? Even if her headvoice, falsetto and whistle register are rather weak and impressive only for their range.And I'd say having a five octave range is impressive. Her chestvoice was really great in the 90s especially. Yes.

There we go.

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Originally Posted by xLitax

lots of random stuff

You made me laugh a lot, thank you
Especially the mention of her "5 octave range" like it's something noone but her ever achieved, considering the biggest part comes from her headvoice, falsetto and whistle register, things usually NOT COUNTED WHEN TALKING ABOUT VOCAL RANGE, I stopped paying attention. I have over 4 octaves(C2-D6) counting headvoice and falsetto(not even counting whistle register since I never worked on gaining that) and I'm a crappy singer.

I read lots of crap on AHS but your post deserves a special mention.
You know why (most) Ayumi fans don't go running around calling CAROLS or Days masterpieces and Ayumi's voice the best in the universe? Because those things would be almost as delusional as some of the stuff you said about Mariah.

Mariah is a very good vocalist(she is not and will never be "the best" though) with mostly generic and formular but not neccessarily bad songs. She doesn't stand out in Pop for being either great or horrible, but for being bland and having a discography full of 3 or 4 song formulas? Definitely. So I stand by my point, bringing her up in a discussion about music getting flat is a very bad example since her whole career included one(?) re-invention and aside that the same song with slight changes 3 billion times.
Actually, she's quite similar to Lady Gaga in some ways looking at her career and music(not the genre itself but the way they stick to signature formula in their songs) just that Lady Gaga had her re-invention earlier and is a worse vocalist.

Originally Posted by isthisLOL?

You made me laugh a lot, thank you
Especially the mention of her "5 octave range" like it's something noone but her ever achieved, considering the biggest part comes from her headvoice, falsetto and whistle register, things usually NOT COUNTED WHEN TALKING ABOUT VOCAL RANGE, I stopped paying attention. I have over 4 octaves(C2-D6) counting headvoice and falsetto(not even counting whistle register since I never worked on gaining that) and I'm a crappy singer.

I read lots of crap on AHS but your post deserves a special mention.
You know why (most) Ayumi fans don't go running around calling CAROLS or Days masterpieces and Ayumi's voice the best in the universe? Because those things would be almost as delusional as some of the stuff you said about Mariah.

Mariah is a very good vocalist(she is not and will never be "the best" though) with mostly generic and formular but not neccessarily bad songs. She doesn't stand out in Pop for being either great or horrible, but for being bland and having a discography full of 3 or 4 song formulas? Definitely. So I stand by my point, bringing her up in a discussion about music getting flat is a very bad example since her whole career included one(?) re-invention and aside that the same song with slight changes 3 billion times.
Actually, she's quite similar to Lady Gaga in some ways looking at her career and music(not the genre itself but the way they stick to signature formula in their songs) just that Lady Gaga had her re-invention earlier and is a worse vocalist.

Very obnoxious, aren't we?

Get that glass swan out before trying to post again.

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Originally Posted by xLitax

Very obnoxious, aren't we?

Get that glass swan out before trying to post again.

You are the one that has yet to present a single argument so maybe you should learn to think before posting?
Also, WTF does "get that glass swan out" mean? Is that some kinda weird expression? Never heard it before.