ARENA TOUR 2012 A ~HOTEL Love songs~ information thread [II]

[TeamAyu2004]

Originally Posted by isthisLOL?

Are you kidding me or are you delusional enough to believe a song is born, no more words and Dearest aren't generic as hell? Which is a big part of the ballad-heavy second half I was talking about.
Holy ****, I didn't even call the album bad, just pointed out that some songs are very generic(that's not an opinion, that's not a judgement, that is a simple observation) and people jump my throath xD As a whole it's still less generic than other artist's entire careers(if I named people now there'd be a whole other shitstorm, but there are many, especially in the J-Pop world, that could be named), but that doesn't change that there are rather generic songs on it, amongst unique masterpieces surely, but they are there.

Um, saying something is generic is an opinion, not a fact.
You can see here by lots of people pointing out that they are not generic is what makes it an opinion.
I dont think people were jumping at you, they were just disagreeing with you.
I am is perfection. I dont think there is anything generic about it.
I think its her most creative and thoughtful creation that Ayumi has.
And I think rainbow gets bad flack because it came after I am, it was different from her other albums.

If anything I am is the most generic album she has. Ayumi broke the mold her mold to try and fit it into a more 'listenable' album across asia with all those english words.

[jewelbox]

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004

Um, saying something is generic is an opinion, not a fact.

EXACTLY. And I HATE the word generic.. Seriously..
And the fact that Timmy has a musical background means NOTHING. There are great musicians who cant even read notes and have composed whole operas (like Vangelis). It's the talent that matters in music. Most rock musicians have no musical background whatsoever...
I don't care if someone had 20 years of experience on classical music and composing if the outcome is ridicilous and crappy.
Some people love Party Queen, thats fine, but calling her older works generic is just ridicilous. What made you her fan if it's not her older songs (before NEXT LEVEL)?
I don't want to sound mean or anything but I'm just AMAZED.

Originally Posted by Coelacanth

lol @ people trying to bash her legendary early work so they can make her new albums look better. Is this really the first thing I have to see when I come back and lurk?

Party Queen sucks. The over-the-top arrangements can't even hide how truly boring all the melodies are in this album. The mixing is terrible on the rock tracks. The Timmy tracks are utter camp garbage. She sounds emotionally distant (perhaps even bored?) while laying down her vocals for most of the album.

Doesn't help that she's constantly coddled by her staff and people like Timmy and Leslie Kee - she readily accepts their sub-par work because she's friends with them and they tell her how fierce she is every single day. If she actually looked at the A SUMMER covers and okay'ed them, well.. she must be absolutely loony. You don't even need to have a keen eye for art to recognize how awful those covers are.

Her older work was more minimalist, mature, unpretentious. It was theatrical, yet subtly - not forced or over-the-top. She's regressing.

I deleted the part about gays, but everything else I wholeheartedly agree 100%.

[Pieces_of_SEVEN]

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004

Um, saying something is generic is an opinion, not a fact.

This. Dearest is anything but generic.