Lovey Dovey's are Cry Crying in T-ara's THIRD THREAD

[mobius]

Wow, this is turning into more of K-Drama than K-Pop.

Kind of ironic all this controversy is happening on their 3rd anniversary.

Guess we'll find out comes the 30th

[freedreamer]

That was a really true and interesting read. I'm so sad for T-ara. They are really one of the most, if not the most, hardworking girls (or maybe just made to work).

I did wonder if all those tweets from them are just a way of being sarcastic towards their CEO. perhaps he was the one who said all those and they were just quoting his crap.

one more day to find out...>.<

[adantatu2]

T-ara fighting !!

[AyusakiFan]

20120729 - Day by Day on Inkigayo



Job Songs MV

[Mari-chan]

Originally Posted by ahtka-chan

Let's think about it, Ahreum was said that she entered the group to help with Soyeon's burden on being the main vocalist, but we already have Boram and Qri there! Boram has an amazing voice, but her and Qri, single after single, are getting less and less lines.

About Dani, I mean, KKs added her just because he saw her on the street and couldn't stop thinking about her? COME ON!

Ahreum was addet because she should help out So-Yeon??? As you said right... they have Boram and Qri... why not letting them sing more lines? Or they should let sing So-Yeon less lines.
There was no need for adding Ahreum and Dani.

KKS added Dani because they saw her on the street? What nonsens is this?
So.. they adding every girl they like which they see somewhere.. or what?
Ah... I'm really exidet, what they wanna have for news tomorrow.

[miroro]

omg guys did you read allkpop's article about t-ara? they know how to add fuel to the fire

I can't wait to read what CCM official statement is about

[AyusakiFan]

There is an official petition on the Korean website "Daum" for the disbandment of T-ara. At this time, there are close to 6000 signatures.

Petition of Dissolution of T-ara

[Mari-chan]

Originally Posted by AyusakiFan

There is an official petition on the Korean website "Daum" for the disbandment of T-ara. At this time, there are close to 6000 signatures.

Petition of Dissolution of T-ara

What is a "disbandment"??? I know the word "disband".
Does it means, they wanna T-ara will dissolve the Group? Or what is it about?
Why do people want it?

[ayurocks20]

I really hope they break up. Being in the group is clearly becoming a detriment. No matter how successful they become, the emotional well-being of the members is more important and I really don't think an environment where members are excluded and publicly bullied by not only fans but also their own partners is definitely hurtful. The smart thing for their CEO to do would be to either transfer them to another company or break them up... but knowing him, he'll probably just add 6 more members because he's an idiot.

[AyusakiFan]

It's official - Hwayoung's contract has been terminated and she is no longer a member of T-ara.

T-ara's agency has revealed Hwayoung will be leaving T-ara.

Core Contents Media's CEO Kim Kwangsoo revealed today.

Kim Kwangsoo said, " I've gathered feedback from 19 people (including five stylists and seven make-up artists, five on-site managers and two group managers) and I came to the decision to terminate Hwayoung's career as a singer."

Kim Kwangsoo said on the background of the announcement, "T-ara as a group and their teamwork has already been tainted by the talks of a member being excluded and bullied. Because of this, what's said will be overlooked. Core Contents Media staff and I have listened to the opinions of T-ara and others since morning trying to find out the right thing to do, and many people have suffered because of this."

"Meanwhile, on behalf of T-ara, I'm sorry for burdening and putting the inconvenience upon fans. T-ara debuted three years ago and I'm sorry to have to announce the bad news on a third anniversary. Finally, the T-ara members wish that Hwayoung will find success as a great rapper."

Hwayoung joined T-ara 20 months ago, and T-ara will promote from now on as Boram, Qri, Hyomin, Soyeon, Jiyeon, Eunjung and Areum. At the end of this year, a new member will also join them.

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Source: http://star.mt.co.kr...&outlink=2
Translated by: Nathaniel @ Diadem

Shortly after the news broke, Hwayoung revealed on Twitter that "The facts are not true" which is an inference to the statements that were made in the article.

[adantatu2]

What ?
O__O
The girls did this ?

[freedreamer]

This is just utterly messed up. Why are so many people standing up against her? Im sure this answer will never see the light of day just like why Jay Park was out from 2PM. I'm so confused...It just doesn't look good on T-ara either way, they should never have tweeted about the issue.

[miroro]

Wow this is crazy!! Kicking he out?? I don't know what to say @__@

[~Amy~]

I read something about one of the girls being rude and shubbing a rice cake into another members mouth or something like that.
Does anyone know what show they might be referring too?
I've also read that T-ara fans could tell the Hwayoung was being bullied from other videos but I can't seem to find any videos showing that.
Does anyone have links to those videos? o.o

[freedreamer]

They dont look like outright bullying but..clearly when you put them all together, it seems like the girls have something against her? and there's LOADS of articles on allkpop now regarding the matter..

This is the full excerpt of the annoucement

As T-ara lives their lives together, I feel that if someone places her/himself above the rest and rocks the boat, the overall stability of the team falters.

I wish to emphasize the fact that the ‘bullying’ reports surrounding T-ara have no basis in truth.

Early after their debut, T-ara went through many reports of several members being bullied (such as Eunjung, Soyeon, or Boram) but that was simply childish jealousy which did not pass two days, and they soon grew closer together.

During the recent concert, a total of 230 staff members moved together. The difference in ‘determination’ that the T-ara members have talked about did not mean whether or not the members could stand on stage.

If someone becomes lazy, or self-centered, and thinks only of oneself, that performance has no reprieve but to suffer flaws, and that kind of stage shines only on the outside. On the inside exists only a shallow longing to ‘show’ something. That is what ‘determination’ means – determination for the stars and the staff members alike.

The most important thing for the staff members and the artists is their health. Only if their body is healthy can they put on a good performance.

Eunjung tore her ligament when she fell on an icy road, and Jiyeon injured her leg during drama filming. She also broke her nose during the Osaka concert when she bumped into a lighting tower, requesting emergency surgery and took the stage afterwards, notwithstanding disagreements with the concert and company managers. She went through full treatment, lasting three days, after her return to Korea.

Hwayoung’s leg injury and her subsequent absence for the concert was for the protection of the star. Although she wanted to stand on stage, all the staff and T-ara members argued against her and she eventually took the stage only for her “Day by Day” performance, as per her wishes.

Therefore, the ‘determination’ that T-ara was talking about was not about standing on stage or otherwise.

Despite poor salary, countless staff members and managers are working hard behind the stars. Driving while missing out on sleep, being on alert 24 hours a day, checking their makeup behind the stage, the staff work hard because they all have the common goal of creating the rise of the next top-level star.

Most staff members, including the on-site manager, are living in either small homes or in dormitories with 3-7 other people. If those people feel sadness due to a certain celebrity, or decide to seek another path because they feel that what they’re doing isn’t right, then the T-ara who gives happiness and joy to many people are nothing more than facades in front of the audience.

Because the eight members of T-ara put teamwork ahead of their selves, they respected the decision of the 19 staff members. Because there couldn’t be any more staff members going through such pain, this decision was made after much debate.

I also thought for a long time whether or not this was the right path, and know that it hurts akin to cutting out one’s own flesh. However, I made the decision based on T-ara’s future and continued existence, and together with the staff we sat up until 7 AM this morning convincing the T-ara members.

Again, I stress that there was no bullying taking place between the T-ara members and Hwayoung and all such reports are without truth.

Earlier, I mentioned during T-ara’s switch from 7 to 9 members that the possibility of member changes existed for those who did not work hard enough or inflicted damage upon other members.

If T-ara becomes lazy or puts themselves first, then the group will become empty on the inside. Therefore, the first priority would be humility, basic manners, and their character.

That is the only way I feel T-ara will continue to become a true Hallyu idol.

Since Hwayoung has much promise as a rapper, Core Contents Media has decided to end her contract without conditions and believe that she will grow into the future as a free artist.

We deeply apologize for the many incidents which made everyone who loved T-ara nervous and worried, and we have nothing but sadness to convey such an unsettling incident on their third anniverary.

Although we, the staff of Core Contents Media, stayed up into early morning discussing with the T-ara members who all wanted to stay with Hwayoung, we apologize to the members in saying that we could not forsake the arguments of the staff members.

Lastly, we again express our sadness to the T-ara members and wish for the best to Hwayoung and her successful rapping career.

An interview was done

The press release is a bit vague. It seems to have actually inflated the controversy.

I can’t reveal everything. It’s the least amount of courtesy for the departing member. Please think carefully about who will be hurt if the truth is revealed.



There were reports of bullying. Are the fights between the members a big reason in the departure?

No. The relationship between the members are not a big problem. In fact, once you take control of a team, small problems can erupt. The bigger problem is the hardships faced by the staff members.



The problems with the staff was also in the official press release. What kind of problems existed?

I don’t want to go into detail, nor do I want to make personal attacks. But the staff were very tired after driving for the entire night and taking care of hair and makeup. There were several managers who cried, saying they wanted to quit. Although the artists are important, I believe that the sweat and tears of the staff are equally as important. I could not stand by watching this destruction of teamwork any longer.



If you go into a little more detail, would that not quell the controversy?

There were so many issues, but I really do not want to shed light on any of them, so I am keeping quiet. There were many examples of yelling at the members and breaking down the teamwork. How would the T-ara members feel, who had trained for over three years? I hope this issue is not inflated any further, (Hwayoung) I hope she stays quiet.

I'll leave you guys to comprehend all these he has said.

Personally, it feels like utter nonsense. One girl has the ability to piss the entire crew off so much that she needs to be removed? She must have some ability there. What kind of crew isn't able to take care of the team and results in this. If there were so tired, why is that stupid CEO making them follow T-ara all around doing so much and even adding new members to the group? It doesn't make any sense at all. All in all, he's just indirectly shirking the responsibility on Hwayoung I feel. I will leave the T-ara girls out of this because part of me also feels like they just tweeted all the BS that was preached to them from this mad person.

An article from last week

T-ara confesses that the majority of their concepts were too embarrassing

From the zombie-apocalyptic clubber concept of Lovey Dovey to the cutesy cat girls of Bo Beep Bo Beep, it almost seems like there isn’t a concept that girl group T-ara hasn’t done. While the girls seemingly pull off each and every concept with much charisma and charm, it seems like the girls themselves have a few problems with their overtly eccentric, and sometimes outlandish concepts.

On July 25th, the girls made a guest appearance on KBS 2TV’s ‘YeoYooManMan’ spilling their own two cents about their past concepts, as well as the cumbersome worry of the many more strange concepts awaiting them in the near future.

“Despite us being a girl group, we’ve had our share of concepts that were a bit out of the ordinary,” says T-ara, “For performances, we’re never informed of what we’re going to wear on that day beforehand. Our CEO just sends us a box of outfits and that’s pretty much it.”

According to Soyeon, it is not uncommon for the girls to perform wearing outfits that they find to be embarrassing. She then listed a selection of outfits that, to the girls, were the worst from the bunch, from the Christmas-inspired outfits on Christmas specials, to the infamous “school girl” concept of the remix re-release of their 2011 summer hit Roly-Poly.

“To be honest, it’s just so uncomfortable to have to wear some of these outfits and go up on stage,” continues Soyeon, “One time, we were so embarrassed that we couldn’t dare go out to go use the washroom.”

“Boram and I are 27 years old now,” says Qri, “I want to do a more girl group-appropriate concept before we get too old.”

“T-ara’s concepts are really unique, they’re one of the many reasons I look forward to their performances,” comments one netizen, “But sometimes, it does seem a little bit out of hand.”

EDIT::


AN UPDATE

CCM reveals the dark side of Hwayoung, mudslinging ensues

Following their announcement regarding the termination of Hwayoung‘s contract, Core Contents Media recently revealed some of Hwayoung’s unacceptable behavior in the past, furthering the mudslinging.

According to CCM, after their Budokan concert and return to Korea on July 27th, T-ara was preparing to go on stage for a live broadcast of KBS‘s ‘Music Bank‘. With only two groups before them left to go, Hwayoung suddenly decided that she did not want to perform on stage that day.

CCM had decided that due to her leg injury, Hwayoung would sit on a chair on stage for her rap segment, and so the girls had successfully completed their camera rehearsal before the broadcast. However, Hwayoung suddenly changed her mind and refused to go on stage with 2 groups left to go.

The agency stated that in order to prevent an accident on live TV, members Eunjung and Hyomin were pressed to learn Hwayoung’s rap segment in the short amount of time they had before their turn. With the new pressure, Hyomin was clearly nervous and ended up making a mistake during the rap segment.

On the way home, Hwayoung, in front of fans and reporters, threw down her crutches and sat on the floor, threatening to yell at the managers in public. It has also been revealed that Hwayoung has shown both fans and reporters a similar side to her, with unacceptable actions and behavior on the set of ‘Music Bank’.

CCM CEO Kim Kwang Soo stated, “We will not be revealing any more of Hwayoung’s similar behaviors outside of the ‘Music Bank’ incident because we do want to protect her. I am also sorrowed by the words left on Hwayoung’s Twitter.”

Source + Image: Newsen

[wildconnetta]

I remember, when Hwayoung debuted in T-ara, I was the only person who supported her.
Everyone else gave her much criticism as she "added nothing to the group".
I am saddened by her leaving, and I wish her the best.
As for T-ara, I will continue to support them, especially Ahreum and Dani.

[AyusakiFan]

This is soooo embarassing. Honestly, if things continue in this direction, they should just disband and put themselves out of their misery.

[12.07.30] T-ara's concert getting mass refund requests while 6,300 people leave their fancafe


After the news of T-ara member Hwayoung's contract termination, their concert is left in a crisis with the possibility of being canceled.

T-ara fans are turning their back against T-ara amongst the agency's official announcement. More than 6,300 fans have left T-ara's fancafe "Mystic" after the member withdrawal news.

T-ara's first solo concert in Korea "Jewelry Box" which will be held on August 11th at the Jamsil Gymnasium is also in a state of panic now.

Fans aren't able to hide their disappointment in the news about T-ara's Hwayoung, and have gone on to cancel their reservations for the concert. Originally, all seats were sold out but are quickly being canceled one by one.

On Twitter, a tweet with the image of a canceled ticket reservation is floating around rapidly saying, "Because of the wrong decision that CEO Kim Kwangsoo made, the group is no longer a 'crown/tiara' but a 'loner (someone who has been bullied').

T-ara's first solo concert in Korea since their debut three years ago is being held on August 11th. T-ara have completed their Japanese tour on the 25th and 26th in the Budokan arena.

T-ara's fans are raising their voices fast about their disappointment with T-ara's agency.

T/N: Mystic is NOT T-ara's official cafe. Mystic changed into an anti-T-ara cafe/pro-Hwayoung cafe and lost 6,000 members. fant-ara is the official one ran by CCM staff which has steadily gained a few members.

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Source: http://reviewstar.hankooki.com/Artic..._GSNO=10054230
Translated by: Nathaniel @ Diadem

[12.07.30] T-ara Eunjung's "Five Fingers" role is in jeopardy



Following the departure of T-ara member, Hwayoung, another issue rises for T-ara from the 'Five Fingers' side.

T-ara member Eunjung has recently been casted as part of SBS' 30-episode drama, "Five Fingers". Reviewstar sat down with the drama's officials for a phone interview and they stated that "We still do not know what kind of action we will be taking in light of recent events. It's only been a little bit over an hour since the news of Hwayoung's departure came out, so we are still unable to present everyone with an official statement."

"Five Fingers" message board has became filled with hateful messages and viewers commenting that "they will not watch the drama if Eunjung is there."

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Source: http://news.nate.com.../20120730n19715
Translated by: Elly @ Diadem

[12.07.30] SBS PD's controversial statement, "I won't reach out to T-ara in the future"

After the controversial announcement of T-ara Hwayoung's contract termination, SBS PD's "Will not contact T-ara in the future" is attracting attention.

"A big surprised captured" when the SBS PD Ryu Cheolmin left a post on his Facebook, "Aigoo Hwayoungah. Ah this oppa will not reach out to T-ara in the future."

Ryu PD's remarks are in response to Core Contents Media's CEO Kim Kwangsoo announcing he is terminating Hwayoung's contract with T-ara, which is currently attracting an enormous amount of attention.

Ryu PD's remarks also attracted a reply from the MBC drama "Lights and Shadow" PD/director Lee Sangyub who said "Oh~ Me too then."

From the comments, it appears as if the PDs side in the favor of Hwayoung. However, some netizens have suggested that the PDs should not talk about this publicly because it can be considered "inappropriate."

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Source: http://news.nate.com.../20120730n25747
Translated by: Nathaniel @ Diadem

[wildconnetta]

I hate to say this, but I kind of love all the drama happening in Korea over Hwayoung's departure

GO HWAYOUNG!!!

[AyuHamasaki01]

I'm not a huge fan of T-ara but I defenitely like(d) them and their music.

I feel so sorry for Hwayoung. It might be interesting to know that Hwayoung is a trending topic on Twitter (worldwide).
The poor girl, she put up with this for all those months. Was she close with Qri?

Anyway, I saw this tweet by Diadem Forums:

"[NEWS] [12.07.30] Kim Kwangsoo, "There is a possibility for Hwayoung to re-join.." http://bit.ly/QYxUlL"

Although the article (the link) seems to be deleted?

[Mari-chan]

Ah.. so it is true. Hwayoung is canceld from the group.
So... from the articles posted here, it seems like, she had a bad behaviour at a Performance? Well.. if it is true, and she really behave like this.. I can unterstand that decision.
But it is sad, that she had to go.

So.. I wish all the best for Hwayoung... that she maybee will have an other career im Music-Business.