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[saigodansu]

It's not threatened by sexuality it's disgusted by perverts. The more morality breaks down to support the views expressed by perverts the more lives we see flushed down the toilet in this world. Usually the lives getting destroyed the most are kids who deserve the same chances some of us had to grow up having a childhood, not walk down the street in one of the many cities that sells porn out of a metal box like its a newspaper and lose the innocence of being a child because some stupid polititians decided to appease someone else by changing laws that should still be there.

[isthisLOL?]

Originally Posted by saigodansu

It's not threatened by sexuality it's disgusted by perverts. The more morality breaks down to support the views expressed by perverts the more lives we see flushed down the toilet in this world. Usually the lives getting destroyed the most are kids who deserve the same chances some of us had to grow up having a childhood, not walk down the street in one of the many cities that sells porn out of a metal box like its a newspaper and lose the innocence of being a child because some stupid polititians decided to appease someone else by changing laws that should still be there.

Do you have proof(in the form of scientific, undisputed studies), backing any of your points?

So you have
- a loosely defined "perverts"
- morality "breaking down" in support of those "perverts" - who are they?
- lives getting "flushed down the toilet" because "morality breaks down" - could you get more specific?
- kids not being able to "have a childhood" - I'd like to see studies regarding this. I'd argue that society's repression of sexuality is more hurtful than those "perverts" you speak of. It is scientific fact that children enjoy sexual play(I am NOT talking about something involving adults, I am talking about an exploration of sexuality that involves only children, without even adults watching), it's sometimes even considered vital for their upbringing - but sexual play amongst children is severely repressed in modern society. Just look at age of consent laws! Having your first sexual encounters when you are over 14, 16 or even 18 is a ridiculous law, as that is already long after puberty begins and you may have already developed a negative connotation to sex by then.
- children "loosing innocence" - I'd argue that children are anything but innocent. all humans, from birth, are highly sexual beings and children cannot yet repress any of their urges willfully.

[saigodansu]

I'm not writing a science book, I'm stating the problems many people have with pornography being viewed as art. There are reasons it's called pornography and not called art.

And if you people keep asking for a source for every sentence someone replies with you are going to needlessly fill threads. Why don't you try giving your own statement and let others freely make theirs. This is a public forum that is kind of what they are for. Not to run to your friends who were given moderator positions they don't deserve so they can help you to blacklist everyone who doesn't share your opinion. If you want to alk on a forum allow it to operate like one where we can all speak freely.

[isthisLOL?]

Originally Posted by saigodansu

I'm not writing a science book, I'm stating the problems many people have with pornography being viewed as art. There are reasons it's called pornography and not called art.

And if you people keep asking for a source for every sentence someone replies with you are going to needlessly fill threads. Why don't you try giving your own statement and let others freely make theirs. This is a public forum that is kind of what they are for. Not to run to your friends who were given moderator positions they don't deserve so they can help you to blacklist everyone who doesn't share your opinion. If you want to alk on a forum allow it to operate like one where we can all speak freely.

So I am assuming you have no sources for any of your statements and are not willing to discuss your position because you realize you cannot defend it?

You talk about children losing their innocence, lives being flushed down the toilet, morality breaking down and "perverts" - those are some serious accusations to society as a whole - and when somebody questions what you say you reply in a manner disregarding everything that was said.
BTW, I have no friends in moderator positions. I don't like the way this forum is moderated, I prefer more liberal moderation that merely deletes spam and cleans up old or unneeded topics, but lets people discuss freely. Since this is a discussion forum (not a "share your opinion and then don't enable a discussion of them" forum).

Are you even familiar with Freud's and Kinsey's research related to child sexuality or do you just pull every single thing you say out of your arse?

[ExodusUK]

Y'all are a trip, loves it.

[saigodansu]

You're taking one post I tried to make in quick Reply to the current discussion on this thread & making this whole discussion belong in a thread of it's own. So please just agree to disagree. I usually don't mind reading your posts and would like to avoid adding more to the ignore list.

If you don't like how it is moderated either then let me post my own statements wthout quoting 100s of sources same as I let everyone else do. I don't ask that everyone change to have my opinion and I don't ask them for sources I let them speak and if it something where I have a much different opinion, then I post my opinion. It doesn't mean I expect you to agree.

And no I'm not familiar with Freud or Kinsey or any other papers of any doctor of any kind. I'm familiar with the Holy Bible, King James Version from 1900 A.D til now. It tends to disagree with most psychologists & therapists so I tend to ignore them completely.

[TeamAyu2004]

^ Actually I really wouldnt go with Freud or Kinsey...
both were crack-pots.
Freud: I really dont know what's wrong with you, but lets blame your mother, she's a woman.
Kinsey: And most likely gay ^_^.

[ExodusUK]

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004

^ Actually I really wouldnt go with Freud or Kinsey...
both were crack-pots.
Freud: I really dont know what's wrong with you, but lets blame your mother, she's a woman.
Kinsey: And most likely gay ^_^.

he's a crack pot because he's most likely gay? okkkay

[TeamAyu2004]

No... lol thats not what I said.