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Old 24th October 2012, 12:06 PM
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Old 24th October 2012, 01:26 PM
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So, can anyone remind us who Hide is? Any capture this person performing in ayu tour?
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Old 24th October 2012, 02:20 PM
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Hide was with Namie Amuro since 2008 I guess, don't remember how long though, there's plenty of him on AT05
Hide was in 'Space of Hip-Pop tour 2005', 'Best tour Live Style 2006', 'PLAY tour 2007' and 'BEST FICTION TOUR 2008-2009'
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Old 24th October 2012, 03:35 PM
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Hide is the one who appeared as the "Prince" in Happy Ending in ARENA TOUR 2005 A ~MY STORY~

and yeah, ayu mixed up Hide with Subaru during the encore part.
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Old 24th October 2012, 03:41 PM
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i dont mean to be disrespectful, but this pretty much came to a shock to me. like just too sudden. I am not homophobic and i am happy for Hide for who he is now. but just wondering why would he announce publicly? is this for some publicity? he still looks quite MAN..
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Old 24th October 2012, 06:16 PM
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^Maybe he came out about it to bring awareness to the issue. Like you said yourself, you are very shocked about it. But, this really isn't something to be overly shocked about, but because it is quite taboo many people react this way, when really it is a understand able thing to do. One of the ways to have the transgendered community be accepted as equals is to talk about it so that people can learn more. I think a lot of the prejudice towards really any parts of the gay/trans community is that people fear what they don't understand. Talking openly about it will get rid of fear and create understanding.
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Old 24th October 2012, 06:27 PM
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^ i agree with you, but you dont think its shocking to be a man one day and then a woman the next (physically).

I don't think it has anything to do with taboos... but just thinking about it... to a 'normal' person why would you want to change you sex? It's just shocking over all. But it happens and I think the 'shock' factor comes from why someone would do it. Not that they did it.

Its hard for people to try and grasp something that they dont understand and people are still arguing over the fact that homosexuality is a choice or not, so for something like this... well you can image how those people feel/ dont understand and find it shocking.
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Old 24th October 2012, 06:52 PM
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I can see how it's shocking. It can be shocking for everyone.

Imagine the people around him, maybe there were people who didn't know. Now the person they thought they knew is different. People handle change in different ways.

You can never know the situation.

But I think it's very important that it's out...especially in Japanese culture. Bringing awareness can always be one of the hardest things to do.
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Old 24th October 2012, 07:24 PM
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Ah I remember her from AT 05!

Did she have sex reassignment surgery?
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Old 24th October 2012, 08:45 PM
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^ Hide probably got chest implants and some cosmetic surgery but the... uhh.... eggroll? is still there

Kinda shocked me but I'm glad to get an update on Hide. We never get enough updates from past Ayu/Namie dancers.
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Old 24th October 2012, 09:14 PM
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^ it? lol, although that might be offensive to some.

the english language is to homophobic to have a gender neutral pronoun... although it might not be homophobic and more 'label obsessive.'
I don't think it's too "homophobic." Whether someone went through a sex change or not, there is only male and female. What I mean is either a man changing to a woman or the opposite, it's still only those 2 genders. There isn't some random third gender. You can't blame the language for only having "he" and "she" if there IS only he and she.

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Most people are normal in the sense that women are born with a female brain and a female body, while men are born with a male brain and male body. Sometimes, though, it happens that people are born with a female brain and a male body or a male brain and a female body.
I'm honestly not homophobic, I'm just really curious about this topic. Unlike homosexuality, transsexualism isn't exactly explained or talked about as much. Technically, in this case, from what you're saying, if she has a "female brain" but a male body wouldn't it technically be considered an abnormal psychological phenomenon? This question goes to anyone who think they know the answer. I don't know if my question makes sense, but I was very meticulous with how I worded it for the sake of offending people.
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Old 24th October 2012, 09:50 PM
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actually there are a lot of local languages (African, Latin/South American/Australian) that have a 3rd gender that is neither male or female.
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Old 24th October 2012, 10:11 PM
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In many languages, there are gender neutral pronouns. In Chinese if we're referring to someone, we say "ta" which could mean he, she or it.

I think a country in Europe recently (within the last 5 years) decided to add a gender neutral pronoun to their language. English could also add one if they felt like it (come on Oxford Dictionary).

Homophobic isn't the right word to use though. That word describes people more. Where is Cory when you need her?
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Old 24th October 2012, 10:49 PM
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English has "it". It's just that we have such strong connotations attached to the word where we tend to only think about things and not people when using it.

And yeah, there ARE other gender categories. They just weren't ever talked about. I guess Intersex would be the biggest "other" category here. And there's so much debate over what exactly that means, and how we can even apply it.

It reminds me of the case of Caster Semenya, the athlete from South Africa, who was almost stripped of her records after a gender test found her to be closer to the of a male? Many people identified her as intersex because of this, even though she, herself, still felt that she was a woman.

I think they later used a different gender test to say that she was a woman.

There are tons of cases like this...People just don't talk about them so much.


Moral of the story. Gender and identity are much more complicated than most people are used to understanding, and we shouldn't have to put identity into specific boxes with certain labels.

Every individual is going to be different. Which is why, personally, I always leave it up to them to decide, what they want to be and how I see them.
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Old 24th October 2012, 11:41 PM
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I'm honestly not homophobic, I'm just really curious about this topic. Unlike homosexuality, transsexualism isn't exactly explained or talked about as much. Technically, in this case, from what you're saying, if she has a "female brain" but a male body wouldn't it technically be considered an abnormal psychological phenomenon? This question goes to anyone who think they know the answer. I don't know if my question makes sense, but I was very meticulous with how I worded it for the sake of offending people.
"Everyone" have those 3:

Physical gender: Male or Female
Psychological gender: Male or Female
Sexual orientation: straight or gay

You can have any combination of those 3, so, even if Hide for example changed her sex to become a girl, she can still be into girls... Her case is not album how she feels about others, but how she feels about herself. The prejudice name on this case would be "transphobia".

It's not considered to be an mental illness or something cuz only stuff that hurt the person themselves and people around them can be considered such (that's why homossexuality can't be considered an illness either).

And neutral pronouns are useful cuz not everyone is either male or female, the most rare it is, you have a lot of people who are in between, this is called intersex. On this cases, usually the person stick to the role of one of the 2 genders, but it's difficult to apply one gender since childhood to those people because it's not uncommon for them to grow up and discover they identify with the other gender.
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Old 25th October 2012, 03:43 AM
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Thanks everyone for replying to me respectfully. I really am ignorant when it comes to a topic such as this, which can be touchy, so I'm careful not to cause offense. Thanks for the answers, it really enlightened me.
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Old 25th October 2012, 04:32 AM
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You stole my comment! hahah

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