Ayu is a "performer" that "could sell overseas"

[kotora]

Originally Posted by artcika

lol i dunno where to put it, but i found it quite interesting and amusing that someone would make such a chart....I am, however thrilled to see GACKT almost reach a part of becoming a genius xD



you can read the article here

i have to say i do agree with a lot of placements in there, we all know Ayu isn't REALLY a musician.

I lol'd when I see AKB48 is only for dancers. They are not even considered as musicians.

Sadly, I don't think ayu can be musician unless CREA is back. But, even if CREA is back, she can hardly be a musician today.

[Jawdarna]

I think Hamasaki Ayumi is more than just mere 'talent'.

The fact that she had no professional musical training before her debut and then in three years to create what she did with I am... is just amazing. She's a pop genius. I think it's rather unfortunate that she did not continue contributing to that aspect of her music. Who knows what she could have created.

If you look at her discography, there's not a lot of garbage.

I actually find this ridiculous. Especially to put her below Utada Hikaru and Namie Amuro...

Funnier considering that Utada bombed overseas.
(though, I guess she is more popular due to her influence with Kingdom Hearts overseas, so perhaps Ayu would crash and burn much worse?)

[BlackSilence]

honestly seeing Ayu's evolutinion, from squeeky girl she turned into a kind of vocaly strong singer and performer. which is really an amazing path.

[mizuki-7]

^Yes I agree =)
I think we can't consider her as a "TRUE" musician but she is far to be a simple singer I don't need to explain everyone here know Ayu involvement in her career ^^

[maikaru]

Just to remind everyone who is saying that Ayu is not a musician,

You may recall a few years back that she stated she wanted to stand and sing while strumming her guitar, which indicates quite well that she knows her way around a guitar. She's probably learned everything there is to know about music now, contrary to her debut days where she couldn't even read a music sheet.

[BlackSilence]

Originally Posted by maikaru

Just to remind everyone who is saying that Ayu is not a musician,

You may recall a few years back that she stated she wanted to stand and sing while strumming her guitar, which indicates quite well that she knows her way around a guitar. She's probably learned everything there is to know about music now, contrary to her debut days where she couldn't even read a music sheet.

true that over years she got so much knowledge, i kinda wish she would show it. i'd love to see her playign an instrument on a concert. That would be MAGICAL. Especially a piano lol But knowing few chords on a guitar isn't really a big thing lol and i doubt she'll ever play it, cuz of her obsession with nails haha

however i still cannot call her a musician, to me she's a very strong songstress and a great performer and a really good lyricist.

[Chibi-Chan]

Originally Posted by maikaru

Just to remind everyone who is saying that Ayu is not a musician,

You may recall a few years back that she stated she wanted to stand and sing while strumming her guitar, which indicates quite well that she knows her way around a guitar. She's probably learned everything there is to know about music now, contrary to her debut days where she couldn't even read a music sheet.

If she really could play the guitar she could have done that live a hundred times. There is a difference between strumming a guitar and really being able to play the guitar.

[mizuki-7]

^
Yes it's also true =)

[Andrenekoi]

She really is a inferior musician compared to almost everyone above her, but she can overperform almost all of them... Including Namie that for some random reason is above her too... And it's even more strange considering Ayu has far more influence on her music than Namie...

[BlackSilence]

^i am acually wondering why Namie is above her, too.i think Ayu should be the top of that section.

[Tom Punks]

mu·si·cian
[myoo-zish-uhn] Show IPA
noun
1.
a person who makes music a profession, especially as a performer of music.
2.
any person, whether professional or not, skilled in music.

Dictionary.com says Ayu is a musician. /case

[emi♡]

^we're just elitist ****s tbh

[Minttulatte]

Namie and Kuu are so American at times that they could actually make it through imo.

[heymrdj]

She may not be as talented as those above her, but her music is certainly better than some of them.

[Miidoriness]

I'm not surprise with the survey. Ayu is indeed a VERY GOOD performer. She's a genius in writing lyric, but I don't think she's a great "musician" due to the fact that she didn't take any professional classes (by that, I mean composing classes, music theory and such). I mean... don't get me wrong. She, indeed, composed songs before but with other composer's help.

[rikku1994]

Well the survey is conducted in America, I'm not really that shocked to see Namie on top (even Koda) since her music sounds so much like they have in the U.S. Ayu's a better performer than Namie for me though...

[jewelbox]

Nice chart but I don't see Ayu being succeful in the states. After all she sings in japanese and everything..

[Mr. Goto]

What a tiny survey. oh @ golden bomber being top tier tho...

[Andrenekoi]

It still annoys me that people consider holding on a show for two hours and keep 10,000+ people entertained by dancing, acting, singing during 2 hours while working a stage and an audience as a lesser talent. Like it was so easy anyone could do it.

And this isn't only about Ayumi, but about any other popstar that doesn't write music, but is totally capable of wiping the floor with almost any other person on the business.

I also can't really remember any particulary good composer that excels on performing at the same level (everybody who say "Lady Gaga" will be ignored).

[mizuki-7]

Madonna ??