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#81
11th August 2015, 06:59 AM
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I love how people are always blaming someone for their frustrations with the career Ayu has pride in saying is all under her control... And how this always come with several comments that someone needed to actively inside her team to know about.
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#82
11th August 2015, 03:26 PM
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What, you think Ayu herself is going through every demo that comes through avex? Hundreds and hundreds of them every year? Not bloody likely. SOMEONE has to narrow the selection down based on what they think Ayu would like. This is Kome's job. Literally. That's what the A&R job title means. Yes, she chooses from that pool, but he's the one giving her stuff to choose from.
Is it really that hard to believe that his choices are based on a combination of HIS taste and established names, rather than Ayu's taste or her pre-2005 successes?
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#83
11th August 2015, 04:20 PM
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Is it that hard to believe he may be picking demos based on what she asked him? Or that he was chosen because he would pick that demos? Or that they define the album direction together before hand and pick the demos based on that? There's no way to know as we aren't inside their creation process... But the whole "Ayu is the poor victim of trusting bad professionals that are killing her career" is really tiring. Even more when she herself said over and over again that she is the biggest responsable for the final product.
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#84
14th August 2015, 02:50 AM
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I mean whatever, it could be her, it could be her team, but ultimately, she's the conduit for the music and there hasn't been anything noteworthy for a long while. She just needs to stop it with CMJK, stop it with tasuku, stop it with Tetsuya Yukumi, and basically stop it with releasing the same song 20 times.
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#85
14th August 2015, 03:01 AM
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Don't state opinions and personal taste as facts.
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#86
14th August 2015, 03:20 AM
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People stay sleeping on Party Queen man.
I did too for a while, but that's mostly because I was busy with school. But damn, I really fucking love Party Queen and the hate it got still is depressing to me.
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#87
14th August 2015, 03:21 AM
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What if ayu made another concept album like Party Queen, focusing on the sound in the call-tell me why string of songs. It'll be cohesive like Love songs too. Something rock like, something like she did way back during I am... with those lyrics of lonliness and abandonment. That or lyrics dealing with an issue related to a currently huge phenomenon (could be anything). Or maybe just not about love lol. Or maybe they could tell a story! Now that could be interesting.
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#88
14th August 2015, 03:30 AM
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If ayu ever wrote an album about some of the social issues dear to me, besides the thoughtful songs she periodically puts out about women or A Song is born (which lyrically is just....yes), she would have me for life.
Lol, ayu on some Erykah Badu type shit.
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#89
14th August 2015, 03:45 AM
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I also thought Party Queen and Colours were GREAT but Love songs sucked, and A One is good bedtime listening. Regardless, look at the writing/production credits of A One and you'll see what the problem with her music is (HELLO, MY OPINION HERE! NOT FACT! IN CASE YOU MISSED IT!)
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#90
14th August 2015, 04:45 AM
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The thing is, Ayu build her career around having a diverse sound. It's very hard for someone to actually copy her because you have about 20 staple sounds she always come back to, besides the more experiemental stuff she has on pretty much every album that have so much of her printed on it it couldn't really be done by someone else. In the end of the say, if she isn't realeasing something during summer or winter, you can't really know what will you get... It can go from a innofensive cutesy ballad that doesn't really add to her career like Hello new me, Melody, meaning of LOVE, to some shit that mix so much genres on it it's hard to fully classify like BRILLANTE, sexy little things, Bold & Delicious, Snowy Kiss... And of course, because of that, someone will always dislike something she releases...
Namie keeps around the same style for a while and explore it for 2 or 3 albums before going on a different direction... Koda has her 3 or 4 signature sounds and tries new sounds here and there (not as frenquently as Ayu)... Hikki also likes to release stuff hard to classify and also experiement a lot, but her final results tend to be more polished (what makes sense, as Hikki is a full-time musician who doubles as a more-or-less competent popstar while Ayu is a performer and popstar with power to make musicians translate her feelings into music). It's not surprising that they please their fans more frequently... Namie and Koda for being more previsible (it's scientific, people find music they recognize easier more pleasent) and Hikki for being more competent on the music department (but let's be honest here, she isn't more competent than Ayu, she is more competent than pretty much everyone else). I don't love everything she does... Hate Rock n Roll Circus and Secret with passion, for example... But I actually like how polarizing she is... IMO it shows she is trying to do relevant stuff and in the end of the day this will be what will made it impossible to totally count her out of the game... Even people bashing her pretty much shows that she still is alive and still is a important figure on the market. People don't even bother discussing whatever most female soloists release, while they still feel the need to show how much they love, hate or love to hate Ayu. This is relevancy, on a level most people who are now outselling her will never really get. Last edited by Andrenekoi; 14th August 2015 at 05:04 AM.
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#91
14th August 2015, 07:16 AM
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^I disagree. Hello new me was offensive on so many levels I can't even.
Also of the 'experimental' tracks you listed - BRILLANTE, sexy little things, Bold & Delicious, Snowy Kiss, the most recent one was Snowy Kiss which came out in 2012/3 albums ago. Not a single track on A ONE pushed her musical boundaries at all. Same can be said for Sixxxxxx. I liked where she was going with Feel the love/MGR and Colours but then she immediately reverted to her comfortable self the moment sales were bad, instead of actually COMMITTING to it. In Amuro's case, Style which was arguably her first album which deviated from her earlier sound, sold badly, but it set a solid premise for her going in a more urban direction, which made Queen of Hip Pop a success when it came out. Ayu's 'inoffensive' 'signature' sound is not 'relevancy', it's just something that her fans tolerate, or her more musically un-exposed fans actually enjoy, which is not reflective of the general public. Last edited by js_surrealism; 14th August 2015 at 07:19 AM.
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#92
14th August 2015, 10:06 AM
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^ B*tch don't care about her sales, it's not because Colours sold 53k that she suddenly thought "well, better go back to my safest sound because i'm losing money here" lmao here's the proof : A ONE sold as much as Colours did.
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#93
14th August 2015, 10:28 AM
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^ I cannot imagine that. Ayu is a great lyric-writer, but she seems only to deal with her own feelings/emotions, or trying to understand or comfort those of others. But environmental issues, ehhh... not really. Maybe she is capable of a rollin' part 2 tho.
Guys, I know opinions are opinions, but I am kind of shocked with some of the content that is written here. Makes this topic very uncomfortable to discuss. Sorry that this does not really add to the discussion. Go ahead and embrace your ideas... but keep it cool 
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#94
15th August 2015, 09:29 AM
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I find it hilarious when people get all specific about what they want Ayu to do with her upcoming material etc but when they get what they want out of her they end up all "omg I hate it she should go back to such and such concept and sound!" Can't please anyone, can you, Ayu? What did you do?
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#95
17th August 2015, 02:58 AM
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17th August 2015, 03:14 PM
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#97
17th August 2015, 10:49 PM
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Her music needs to stop sounding so cheaply produced. It started happening with R'n'R Circus. Many of the tracks would have real guitar/strings but every other instrument would be programmed.
It's a crime that songs like count down, Last Links, Out of control, WARNING don't have real fucking session musicians playing on them.
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#98
19th August 2015, 07:19 PM
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I don't think the problem lies with her music, yes there are some (plenty really) re-hashed songs but many acts out there never really change their sound and they still maintain a level of relevancy.
I'd say it's in the marketing and budgets, both of her music and her public persona, with the right marketing they could slowly change the public's perception of her and with a decent marketing push people might actually realize she's releasing stuff (not to mention the added production values to her music). Of course, none of this will turn into a huge selling album for sure but it could certainly help keep her sales consistent.
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#99
19th August 2015, 07:52 PM
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Ayu would need to completely switch styles. Turn into a Visual Kei singer and do collaborations with VK bands.
.... But in all seriousness, I agree with Indie. She needs to start changing her public image if she wants to start selling lots of music. Maybe she should start writing lyrics for other musicians (like, a lot more than she already has) Here's a crazy thought. Maybe other artists could feature her as CREA on their albums. Of course, this last idea wouldn't necessarily help her make huge sales for her own CDs but it would still make her relevant if she wrote songs for the right kind of people.
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#100
19th August 2015, 08:50 PM
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I Dont know if this would be a great idea but maybe a compilation CD. Like "A duets" with a track list like this:
1.- Love since 99-2015 version feat ___ ( insert male singer) 2.- A song is born feat Keiko (Remix version) 3.- Why feat Juno 4.- What is forever love feat Urata Naoya 5.- Another song feat Urata Naoya ( new version) 6.- My way ( M-flo song) 7.- Sayonara feat Spexial ( Classical version) 8.- Merry go round feat M-flo 9.- Dream on feat Naoya Urata 10.- Seasons feat JJ Lin 11.- New song ( Maybe like "Brighter wing feat Every little thing") 12.- New song feat a female singer ( someone hot in this moment) The new versions of song and new songs make fans buy the album because is not just a playlist of songs in a cd. Something like this requieres a good promotion, release the 2 new songs with pvs and singles. A good tie in.
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